The Roster of Princesses is Growing...

Clochette · Post by **Clochette** » Wed Mar 21, 2007 4:19 am

I thought, it was more the Jafar-kiss?

Prudence · Post by **Prudence** » Wed Mar 21, 2007 6:09 am

A slut is someone who engages in sexual practices for money, and honestly, sluts dress much differently from Jasmine, Meg, and Ariel.

Disney Duster · Post by **Disney Duster** » Wed Mar 21, 2007 6:46 am

Prudence wrote:A slut is someone who engages in sexual practices for money

I really don't think so. I always knew it as just a female who does a lot of men, and sleeps around with "everyone". That's how I always understood it. No money involved. For what it's worth, Wikipedia agrees with me:

Slut is a pejorative term for a person (usually female) who is more sexually promiscuous than is socially acceptable. The term has traditionally been applied to women and is generally used as an insult or offensive term of disparagement. Slut has also been reclaimed as a slang term in the BDSM, polyamorous and gay and bisexual communities. It may be used by the person concerned as an expression of pride in their status, or as an expression of enviousness in the "success rate" of others. The term is not interchangeable with whore or prostitute as those terms denote a person who engages in sex for money.

memnv · Post by **memnv** » Wed Mar 21, 2007 6:49 am

Prudence wrote:A slut is someone who engages in sexual practices for money, and honestly, sluts dress much differently from Jasmine, Meg, and Ariel.

You are so wrong there prudence.

Slut is a pejorative term for a person (usually female) who is more sexually promiscuous than is socially acceptable. The term has traditionally been applied to women and is generally used as an insult or offensive term of disparagement. Slut has also been reclaimed as a slang term in the BDSM, polyamorous and gay and bisexual communities. It may be used by the person concerned as an expression of pride in their status, or as an expression of enviousness in the "success rate" of others. The term is not interchangeable with whore or prostitute as those terms denote a person who engages in sex for money.

The term is also used (principally by women) to describe a woman dressed provocatively or a woman being overtly flirtatious.

Disney's Divinity · Post by **Disney's Divinity** » Wed Mar 21, 2007 10:03 am

Fantasmic wrote:Wow, the definition of "slut" sure has become blurred. I think it's rediculous that people care if Jasmine's dressed as thought it's a million degrees outside, because, well, it is in Agrabah. And growing up watching her in Aladdin didn't corrupt me or anyone else I know.

And yet her father (and most everyone else in Agrabah) has no problem wearing normal clothes that cover him. I, personally, don't see any of the princesses as "slutty," but Jasmine would be the closest to it.

bruno_wbt · Post by **bruno_wbt** » Wed Mar 21, 2007 10:38 am

Disney's Divinity wrote:
Fantasmic wrote:Wow, the definition of "slut" sure has become blurred. I think it's rediculous that people care if Jasmine's dressed as thought it's a million degrees outside, because, well, it is in Agrabah. And growing up watching her in Aladdin didn't corrupt me or anyone else I know.
And yet her father (and most everyone else in Agrabah) has no problem wearing normal clothes that cover him. I, personally, don't see any of the princesses as "slutty", but Jasmine would be the closest to it.

Really? But Ariel only wears two seashells!!!

I don't see any of the princesses as "slutty" and no one is close to that!

Please, it's Disney!

Disney's Divinity · Post by **Disney's Divinity** » Wed Mar 21, 2007 10:43 am

bruno_wbt wrote: Really? But Ariel only wears two seashells!!!

Yes, but even the old mermaids wear just seashells. According to her society, it's not slutty to wear that (and it most likely would make it hard to swim if you wore more than that). Notice how she wears outfits are appropriate when she turns into a human though?

As for Jasmine, she's one of the only girls seen in the movie that dresses like that.

Poody · Post by **Poody** » Wed Mar 21, 2007 10:51 am

Come on.... Tinker Bell is the sluttiest of them all!

CampbellzSoup · Post by **CampbellzSoup** » Wed Mar 21, 2007 4:17 pm

Disney's Divinity wrote:
bruno_wbt wrote: Really? But Ariel only wears two seashells!!!

Yes, but even the old mermaids wear just seashells. According to her society, it's not slutty to wear that (and it most likely would make it hard to swim if you wore more than that). Notice how she wears outfits are appropriate when she turns into a human though?

As for Jasmine, she's one of the only girls seen in the movie that dresses like that.

Forgetting the girls in the genie "fantasy" and I believe the girls in the begining with the mother aren't too wrapped up either.

Fantasmic · Post by **Fantasmic** » Wed Mar 21, 2007 5:13 pm

Disney's Divinity wrote:
Fantasmic wrote:Wow, the definition of "slut" sure has become blurred. I think it's rediculous that people care if Jasmine's dressed as thought it's a million degrees outside, because, well, it is in Agrabah. And growing up watching her in Aladdin didn't corrupt me or anyone else I know.
And yet her father (and most everyone else in Agrabah) has no problem wearing normal clothes that cover him. I, personally, don't see any of the princesses as "slutty," but Jasmine would be the closest to it.

Lots of the women of Agraba dress that way (and it's pretty historically correct, if I'm not mistaken).

castleinthesky · Post by **castleinthesky** » Wed Mar 21, 2007 5:16 pm

Mulan = Not a Princess!

Eilonwey = Princess!!!

Also, last time I checked Jasmine was Asian. Maybe not a monogloid in race (she's a caucasoid), but nevertheless she lives in Asia.*

*This is only if Arabian refers to Arabian Desert.

Fantasmic · Post by **Fantasmic** » Wed Mar 21, 2007 5:18 pm

castleinthesky wrote:Mulan = Not a Princess!

Eilonwey = Princess!!!

AS I'VE STATED: Mulan is an official Disney Princess, because of her admirable, heroic qualities. It's not necessary a royal status so much as a type of heroine. EILONWEY IS NOT AN OFFICIAL DISNEY PRINCESS, ergo she's not on the banner.

castleinthesky · Post by **castleinthesky** » Wed Mar 21, 2007 5:20 pm

Fantasmic wrote: AS I'VE STATED: Mulan is an official Disney Princess, because of her admirable, heroic qualities. It's not necessary a royal status so much as a type of heroine. EILONWEY IS NOT AN OFFICIAL DISNEY PRINCESS, ergo she's not on the banner.

And on some offical "animated classics" lists, the Wild is listed.

Fantasmic · Post by **Fantasmic** » Wed Mar 21, 2007 5:23 pm

castleinthesky wrote:
Fantasmic wrote: AS I'VE STATED: Mulan is an official Disney Princess, because of her admirable, heroic qualities. It's not necessary a royal status so much as a type of heroine. EILONWEY IS NOT AN OFFICIAL DISNEY PRINCESS, ergo she's not on the banner.
And on some offical "animated classics" lists, the Wild is listed.

I find that quite irrelevant to what we're talking about (and I agree, it's possibly the worst thing that Disney could slide into their animated classics list, especially when it's outsourced animation)

Prudence · Post by **Prudence** » Wed Mar 21, 2007 7:17 pm

Disney Duster wrote:
Prudence wrote:A slut is someone who engages in sexual practices for money
I really don't think so. I always knew it as just a female who does a lot of men, and sleeps around with "everyone". That's how I always understood it. No money involved.

Those are whores. And yes, I was wrong earlier. I couldn't remember the definition at 4 in the morning.

SpringHeelJack · Post by **SpringHeelJack** » Wed Mar 21, 2007 7:39 pm

First off, the word "slut" and "WhorE" are essentially synonymous. Second...are we really fighting over this? Really?

Fantasmic · Post by **Fantasmic** » Wed Mar 21, 2007 7:41 pm

yeah... this is a Disney forum. I've been surprised by some of what's been posted on here (not this thread specifically, the word "slut" isnt that bad, but in general). Back to topic?

SpringHeelJack · Post by **SpringHeelJack** » Wed Mar 21, 2007 8:00 pm

It's not even that I'm offended by this (believe me, it takes a LOT to offend me), it just sounds so ridiculous, like somthing a bunch of drunken frat boys would fight over, not members of a Disney forum.

memnv · Post by **memnv** » Wed Mar 21, 2007 8:57 pm

SpringHeelJack wrote:First off, the word "slut" and "WhorE" are essentially synonymous. Second...are we really fighting over this? Really?

Actully they are not synonymous

Escapay · Post by **Escapay** » Wed Mar 21, 2007 9:10 pm

Fantasmic wrote:. EILONWEY IS NOT AN OFFICIAL DISNEY PRINCESS, ergo she's not on the banner.

You'd think her line "I'm Princess Eilonwy" in the film would make it official enough.

Still, the whole Disney Princess line is a convoluted mess anyway, as it only focuses on the popular ones.

As for the slut/whore argument, we should just let it go away.

Escapay

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