I remember the story when Walt chewed out the Sherman brothers when he thought they used the term SOB instead of FOB for a song in Happiest Millionaire. If only Walt had gotten a glimpse of the 80's...
In many cases the Disney channel would air a version of these films with alternate takes that had the swear words removed or something else said. In this case I rember all the damns were out, Hughs said "It will fly" and when the one guy used to say "Blown to Hell" he now said "Blown to kingdom come" Because I grew up with Disney doing this I have always said why do we HAVE to have this stuff in an all-age film if it doesn't change the enjoyment of the film? The Rocketeer played just as well with the changes so were these swears necissary or just to get a PG rating in hopes to fill seats?
I enjoy the Rocketeer as much as I enjoy the Indiana Jones films. It's fun and holds up fairly well. Who cares about the Nazis? For the type of film this was (a take on the 30's and 40's serials" of course you'd have Nazis and the Nazis really were into all this kind of stuff found here and in the Jones' films. A few years ago I was kind of surprised at just how accurate George Lucas' (and Hellboy's) Nazi's and the occult were/are. Did you know that the biggest boost Hitler had to rise to power was from the rich aristocrats through their occultist circles? There was even some occult leader who was like Hitler's right hand guy in the early years and when he died he was said to have made some lengthy statement on how he was like the John the Bapist figureto Hitler's rise to power and from what I read it really was that way. I also read some information claiming that the reason Hitler burned people, mostly Jews, in the concentration camps was to give a blood sacrafice to the forces of Satan. There was even internal documentation to that effect and whether or not you believe in God or Satan or the occult, Hitler apparently did and it is interesting if this was ultimately the reason behind the Holocaust. And there's also a legend that the Nazi's had a military base in anacrtica and held up there until 1947. I don't know if I buy that but with just this sampling of stuff the Nazis did or were said to have done you can see that looking for the Ark of the Covenant, the Holy Grail, or a Rocket pack could have been more rooted in fact than fiction. The Nazis were also working on disc shaped air craft. Those same scientists continued that work whgen they came state side. I don't know if they were successful but who hasn't seen the footage from the 50's and 60's with the silly disc shaped craft that could barely get of the ground?
Was Flight of the Navigator produced under the Ron Miller or Eisner regime?
The Rocketeer's objectional phrases
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Touchstone84
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I'm not sure, but Flight of the Navigator wasn't a Disney film proper, it was only distributed by Disney. The first film greenlighted by the Eisner-Wells-Katzenberg trio at Disney by the way was Down and Out in Beverly Hills (US premiere 1986-01-31), which also was the first R-rated film from the Company.UncleEd wrote:I remember the story when Walt chewed out the Sherman brothers when he thought they used the term SOB instead of FOB for a song in Happiest Millionaire. If only Walt had gotten a glimpse of the 80's...
In many cases the Disney channel would air a version of these films with alternate takes that had the swear words removed or something else said. In this case I rember all the damns were out, Hughs said "It will fly" and when the one guy used to say "Blown to Hell" he now said "Blown to kingdom come" Because I grew up with Disney doing this I have always said why do we HAVE to have this stuff in an all-age film if it doesn't change the enjoyment of the film? The Rocketeer played just as well with the changes so were these swears necissary or just to get a PG rating in hopes to fill seats?
I enjoy the Rocketeer as much as I enjoy the Indiana Jones films. It's fun and holds up fairly well. Who cares about the Nazis? For the type of film this was (a take on the 30's and 40's serials" of course you'd have Nazis and the Nazis really were into all this kind of stuff found here and in the Jones' films. A few years ago I was kind of surprised at just how accurate George Lucas' (and Hellboy's) Nazi's and the occult were/are. Did you know that the biggest boost Hitler had to rise to power was from the rich aristocrats through their occultist circles? There was even some occult leader who was like Hitler's right hand guy in the early years and when he died he was said to have made some lengthy statement on how he was like the John the Bapist figureto Hitler's rise to power and from what I read it really was that way. I also read some information claiming that the reason Hitler burned people, mostly Jews, in the concentration camps was to give a blood sacrafice to the forces of Satan. There was even internal documentation to that effect and whether or not you believe in God or Satan or the occult, Hitler apparently did and it is interesting if this was ultimately the reason behind the Holocaust. And there's also a legend that the Nazi's had a military base in anacrtica and held up there until 1947. I don't know if I buy that but with just this sampling of stuff the Nazis did or were said to have done you can see that looking for the Ark of the Covenant, the Holy Grail, or a Rocket pack could have been more rooted in fact than fiction. The Nazis were also working on disc shaped air craft. Those same scientists continued that work whgen they came state side. I don't know if they were successful but who hasn't seen the footage from the 50's and 60's with the silly disc shaped craft that could barely get of the ground?
Was Flight of the Navigator produced under the Ron Miller or Eisner regime?
PSO is an abbreviation for Producers Sales Organization, a company started by the folks that would later create Lions Gate.Library of Congress wrote:Flight of the navigator / a New Star Entertainment production ; produced by...
Type of Work: Motion Picture
Registration Number / Date: PA0000293928 / 1986-07-30
Application Title: Vanished.
Title: Flight of the navigator / a New Star Entertainment production ; produced by Robby Wald and Dimitri Villard ; co-producer, David Joseph ; directed by Randal Kleiser.
Imprint: [Burbank, Calif.] : Distributed by Buena Vista Distribution Co., c1986.
Description: 5 film reels (105 min.) : sd., col. ; 35 mm.
Notes: Based on a story by Mark H. Baker.
Cast: Joey Cramer, Veronica Cartwright, Cliff DeYoung et al.
Performer: A Producers Sales Organization picture presented by Walt Disney Pictures.
Credits: Music by Alan Silvestri; film editor: Jeff Gourson; director of photography: James Glennon; screenplay by Michael Burton & Matt MacManus.
Copyright Claimant: P S O Presentations
Date of Creation: 1986
Date of Publication: 1986-07-24
Authorship on Application: Dunhaven Entertainment, employer for hire.
Previous Registration: Screenplay prev. reg. 1985 as Navigator, PAu 755-513.
Basis of Claim: New Matter: all cinematographic material excluding the screenplay and some existing film clips & music.
Other Title: Navigator
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gardener14
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I guess I see what you mean by saying Flight of the Navigator isn't a Disney film proper, but isn't it produced in the same way (by other production companies) that the vast majority of Disney movies have been over the last three decades? If Flight of the Navigator isn't a Disney film then there are hardly any since the early 80's.Touchstone84 wrote: I'm not sure, but Flight of the Navigator wasn't a Disney film proper, it was only distributed by Disney. The first film greenlighted by the Eisner-Wells-Katzenberg trio at Disney by the way was Down and Out in Beverly Hills (US premiere 1986-01-31), which also was the first R-rated film from the Company.
PSO is an abbreviation for Producers Sales Organization, a company started by the folks that would later create Lions Gate.Library of Congress wrote:Flight of the navigator / a New Star Entertainment production ; produced by...
Type of Work: Motion Picture
Registration Number / Date: PA0000293928 / 1986-07-30
Application Title: Vanished.
Title: Flight of the navigator / a New Star Entertainment production ; produced by Robby Wald and Dimitri Villard ; co-producer, David Joseph ; directed by Randal Kleiser.
Imprint: [Burbank, Calif.] : Distributed by Buena Vista Distribution Co., c1986.
Description: 5 film reels (105 min.) : sd., col. ; 35 mm.
Notes: Based on a story by Mark H. Baker.
Cast: Joey Cramer, Veronica Cartwright, Cliff DeYoung et al.
Performer: A Producers Sales Organization picture presented by Walt Disney Pictures.
Credits: Music by Alan Silvestri; film editor: Jeff Gourson; director of photography: James Glennon; screenplay by Michael Burton & Matt MacManus.
Copyright Claimant: P S O Presentations
Date of Creation: 1986
Date of Publication: 1986-07-24
Authorship on Application: Dunhaven Entertainment, employer for hire.
Previous Registration: Screenplay prev. reg. 1985 as Navigator, PAu 755-513.
Basis of Claim: New Matter: all cinematographic material excluding the screenplay and some existing film clips & music.
Other Title: Navigator
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UncleEd
Down and OUt in Beverly Hills was a Touchtone release. What was the first Walt Disney PIctures film under Eisner?
Flight of the Navigator always feels more like a made for TV movie to me than a theatrical one. I remember it being advertised when it came out but I was too young to remember how well recieved it was. Anyone care to enlighten?
Flight of the Navigator always feels more like a made for TV movie to me than a theatrical one. I remember it being advertised when it came out but I was too young to remember how well recieved it was. Anyone care to enlighten?
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Touchstone84
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The difference comes when the Walt Disney Company are not the copyright claimant. It's true that since the regime change in the mid 1980's most of the live-action productions are no longer made in-house the way they used to in Walt's days - but the vast majority of films distributed under any of the Company's banners are still either owned or co-owned by Disney.gardener14 wrote:I guess I see what you mean by saying Flight of the Navigator isn't a Disney film proper, but isn't it produced in the same way (by other production companies) that the vast majority of Disney movies have been over the last three decades? If Flight of the Navigator isn't a Disney film that there are hardly any since the early 80's.Touchstone84 wrote: I'm not sure, but Flight of the Navigator wasn't a Disney film proper, it was only distributed by Disney. The first film greenlighted by the Eisner-Wells-Katzenberg trio at Disney by the way was Down and Out in Beverly Hills (US premiere 1986-01-31), which also was the first R-rated film from the Company.
PSO is an abbreviation for Producers Sales Organization, a company started by the folks that would later create Lions Gate.
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