Disney, it is time for a black princess!

[disneyboy20022]

Also don't forget that Jasmine from Aladdin isn't white and I think she's the only princess besides Pocahantas who is not white.

I would have to disagree. People from the Middle East and northern Africa are Caucasians.

I never said Jasmine and Pocahontas are Black. I simply said they are not white. People from the middle eastern countries and northen africa are often not often white. Caucasians are not black but they are not White such as the same skin color as Cinderella and Snow White.

[castleinthesky]

I would have to disagree. People from the Middle East and northern Africa are Caucasians.

I never said Jasmine and Pocahontas are Black. I simply said they are not white. People from the middle eastern countries and northen africa are often not often white. Caucasians are not black but they are not White such as the same skin color as Cinderella and Snow White.

Your wrong. The term Caucasian refers to all the peoples descendent of Europe, North Africa, and the Middle East.

And, by the way, I never said that you said they were black. I stated that they were "White", unlike what you said.

[disneyboy20022]

I never said Jasmine and Pocahontas are Black. I simply said they are not white. People from the middle eastern countries and northen africa are often not often white. Caucasians are not black but they are not White such as the same skin color as Cinderella and Snow White.

Your wrong. The term Caucasian refers to all the peoples descendent of Europe, North Africa, and the Middle East.

And, by the way, I never said that you said they were black. I stated that they were "White", unlike what you said.

Oh sorry my bad. Anyway But however People from that area are not true black yet they are not true white. People from they are what from differ ethnic groups and are somewhat a light black.

I just thought of something... In Pocahontas, Powhatan says chant in a song called Saveges Savges Barley Human... Anyway He refers to the English Men as The Pale Face are a Demon so Pocahontas and all the other Native Americans are not the same pigment skin color as John Smith since Powhatan refers to John Smith and gang as A Pale face decmon. AlsoIn My opinion Jasmine is the same pigment skin color as Pocahantas. Not Black not white but a category in between.

[Ting Ting]

Just because your daughter is black doesn't mean that she can't dress up as a Disney princess. People dress up as aliens and nobody is green!

[totallyminnie86]

I'd like to see an animated Aida, but with Rice's and Elton John's music. It is beautiful.
Wasn't the musical actually produced by the Disney company?

Yes it was, that is why Disney once thought of animating it using their musical as the basis for it. I think it would be beautiful as an animated (2D!) film

[singerguy04]

I would love for disney to do a black princess character, it would give disney the chance to base a movie in a area they really havn't explored. But then again, i don't think the answer to having a black princess would be to take a european fairy tale and place a black character in it, it would feel out of context. I would love if disney looked into African Legends and mythological icons that are female and base the story around them. I think that would open peoples eye's to the beautiful african culture as well as appropriately displaying a black princess, in my eyes.

A good story would be Aida, but there are a million others to choose from.

[numba1lostboy]

I just thought of something... In Pocahontas, Powhatan says chant in a song called Saveges Savges Barley Human... Anyway He refers to the English Men as The Pale Face are a Demon so Pocahontas and all the other Native Americans are not the same pigment skin color as John Smith since Powhatan refers to John Smith and gang as A Pale face decmon. AlsoIn My opinion Jasmine is the same pigment skin color as Pocahantas. Not Black not white but a category in between.

I'm sorry, but I can't make any sense of what you're trying to say.

No one was ever saying Jasmine or Pocahontas were white. No one was ever saying they were the same.
I understand the origin of the word "caucasian," but nowadays it has a different connotation. People think "white, american, of european descent."

[Escapay]

But however People from that area are not true black yet they are not true white. People from they are what from differ ethnic groups and are somewhat a light black.

It's not that simple. There's no ultimate black or ultimate white person.

Look at the pigment of an Irishman. Then compare that to a Greek.

Consider the skin tone of someone from Egypt to someone from Kenya.

It's not all black and white (sorry about the pun). It's all shades of grey, with no one definite in black or white.

Not all Asians will be extremely pale, have jet black hair, and skinny eyes. Not all Germans are blonde and blue-eyed. Not even all Native Americans have the same skin. An Iroquois is much different from a Navajo, just as a French is different from a Spanish, and yet they reside/originate on the same continent (Iroquois and Navajo in North America, French and Spanish in Europe).

Escapay

[Princessmarlo]

I signed it because I think they should def do a black princess movie, I had written to disney a while ago but they sent something saying they could not use my ideas and blah blah..... I really do think they need to at least do one film with a Black princess and maybe more movies based around the culture.

[Viviane]

I signed it.

I have some friends that criticize Disney, and one of their reasons is this... not having a black woman or even an important character black skinned (not necessarily a princess). And this is one thing that i don't have a good answer for them.
I bet Africa has great stories to show the world, even if they are unknown. It's always good to know another culture

[akhenaten]

how bout forming a petition for an aida animated film? it is my too die for wish.i wish disney would do an african and polynesian princess.

[Super Aurora]

All the princesses in the Disney Princess line are only from successful, popular movies. Kida from the flop Atlantis and Esmeralda from the unheard of Hunchback of Notre Dame are not featured.

You forgot Eilonwry from Black Cauldron, and Esmeralda isn't even a princess.

Just because your daughter is black doesn't mean that she can't dress up as a Disney princess. People dress up as aliens and nobody is green!

Not all aliens are green anyhow. Look at Star Wars! Especially in the Cantina and Jabba's palace.

[Disney-Fan]

I'm gonna step in and stay something as bluntly as I can. It'll be time for a black princess when it fits the story, period. I've had enough of Disney doing things for the sake of politically-correctness. Enough is enough. If we encourage this move we also encourage Disney's unexplainable need to be constantly politically correct. Can anyone say Song of the South? Yeah, I thought so...

[yamiiguy]

But however People from that area are not true black yet they are not true white. People from they are what from differ ethnic groups and are somewhat a light black.

It's not that simple. There's no ultimate black or ultimate white person.

Look at the pigment of an Irishman. Then compare that to a Greek.

Consider the skin tone of someone from Egypt to someone from Kenya.

It's not all black and white (sorry about the pun). It's all shades of grey, with no one definite in black or white.

Not all Asians will be extremely pale, have jet black hair, and skinny eyes. Not all Germans are blonde and blue-eyed. Not even all Native Americans have the same skin. An Iroquois is much different from a Navajo, just as a French is different from a Spanish, and yet they reside/originate on the same continent (Iroquois and Navajo in North America, French and Spanish in Europe).

Escapay

i am honored to be in your sig Escapay

i guess they could do a movie based on some ancient african mythology, anybody know any?

[Lars Vermundsberget]

Strictly "for the record": Some might be aware of the fact that there was a very minor black female character in Fantasia some 60 years ago - she's been quite thoroughly erased since then, though.

The initial point still remains, though.

However, it's also interesting to see how everything isn't entirely "black or white". A few years ago I saw a picture of the supposedly "black" Colin Powell and president GWB. There wasn't much of a difference in skin colour if you ask me. And a few days ago I read about a "black" man from the south states running for senator (or whatever they're doing these days). His skin didn't look very "black" either, IMO.

[blackcauldron85]

I signed the petition. Dr. Sweet in "Atlantis" is African American, too, to add to the list. There definitely are many African folk tales and stories that could be made into Disney animated films. And, even though Mulan and Esmeralda aren't "technically" princesses, they, along with Tinker Bell, do have dolls in the Princess line. There are folk tales from all cultures that would work as Disney animated films. And, even though the classic fairy tales were written long ago, that doesn't mean that Disney can't up the diversity a bit. But, at the same time, Disney shouldn't totally get rid of Caucasian characters; there should be a good balance. I'm not saying they can't have a movie with only African American ("One By One"), or Chinese (like in "Mulan"), or Russian (I know Russians are Caucasian, but you get the point) ("Peter and the Wolf"), etc. They should include many different races. 1997's "Rogers and Hammerstein's Cinderella" is a perfect example, whoever mentioned it (sorry, the topic review only goes so far...)- it reflects the diversity of America (even though the original fairy tale took place in Europe, I always imagined that this version took place in America).

[MichaeLeah]

Another example of a good strong black character in an animated film is Big Momma from The Fox and the Hound. Sure, she isn't actually black but her character is based off the stereotypes of a "big mamma." A stereotype that African-Americans like.

Personally I would like to see a black princess but I won't sign the petition for two reasons.

1) I have my doubts that such a petition would even be considered valid by Disney.

2) I fight myself slightly irritated that that lady would come in here on her first visit and tell us what to do. She doesn't seem interested in coming here to make friends or discuss Disney movies. She used the forum as an opportunity to stir people toward her own cause.

[disneyboy20022]

I just thought of something... In Pocahontas, Powhatan says chant in a song called Saveges Savges Barley Human... Anyway He refers to the English Men as The Pale Face are a Demon so Pocahontas and all the other Native Americans are not the same pigment skin color as John Smith since Powhatan refers to John Smith and gang as A Pale face decmon. AlsoIn My opinion Jasmine is the same pigment skin color as Pocahantas. Not Black not white but a category in between.

I'm sorry, but I can't make any sense of what you're trying to say.

No one was ever saying Jasmine or Pocahontas were white. No one was ever saying they were the same.
I understand the origin of the word "caucasian," but nowadays it has a different connotation. People think "white, american, of european descent."

Well there is a song that the english men sing and the Natives sing. I know one of the verses is where they call each other Savages Savages Deadly to the core, they're differ from us which means the can't be trusted so its time to sound the drums of war.. I am not sure on the exact name of the song in the Movie Pochontas but in one of the other verses Chief Powhatan says the Following. "The Pale Face is a demon".
Anyway the point I was trying to make is that why would Chief Powhatan Say that refer to the Englishmen as Pale Face demon if they were the same color. Answer is: They are not the same color. Do you understand that?? If you still have no clue pop in the soundtrack to Pocahontas and you will see what I am talking about there is a song with those verses in it. Like I said I am not sure of the exact Name of it though.

[The Little Merboy]

I signed it

However, I do totally agree with Disney Duster. I couldn't have said it better myself. But like others, I think if Disney did decide to feature a "black princess". Aida would be the perfect choice, they already have the story and the music.

I always wondered why it wasn't made, Aida would look awesome as a traditonal 2D feature film.

[Dottie]

I've already said I'd love Aida to become a traditional Disney feature film, but other African legends or stories would be very interesting as well. I think it would still have to be a, don't get me wrong, a "black story" that is beased in the African culture.