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Sequels are made just for business it is clear that the target are the kids who do not really care for quality or voices, etc. I think they are too expansive, it cost almost the same as a classic one, that is ridiculous, but since there is people for all kind of staff...for people close to animation in any way this is difficult to accept as a good deal, you do not need to be an expert to notice the poorness in this movies, that also affect the latest Disney movies that are not like the Classics, when you see other works like Ghibli staff for example, it can be easily notice what is good animation and what it is not, no wonder why Disney make a deal with them.
But it seems like many people just got that kind of movies sequels for pure entertainment and not as a piece of art, that is OK I think, still too much money for that kind of dvds.
But it seems like many people just got that kind of movies sequels for pure entertainment and not as a piece of art, that is OK I think, still too much money for that kind of dvds.
For your reference and records my native language is Spanish.
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Sequals
I think it has been stated before in one if the forums but the Sequals are to the kids today what the originals where to us in the past. I'm sure Disney lovers of the 70s thought that the movies then where not as good as those before, and the same goes for those of even previous generations. Have you ever watched a child while they're watching one of these sequals? They love it for the most part because that is all they know, and thats what counts, creating new memories, and just having a good time. While I agree with most of what had been said now and in the past regarding Sequals, its not what we think but what the kids today think, that Disney is looking at. If the kids today want Kim Possible type junk as their Disney movies thats what disney s going to give them. yes its Business, but good Business. You can't fault them for that.
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Sequals
I think it has been stated before in one if the forums but the Sequals are to the kids today what the originals where to us in the past. I'm sure Disney lovers of the 70s thought that the movies then where not as good as those before, and the same goes for those of even previous generations. Have you ever watched a child while they're watching one of these sequals? They love it for the most part because that is all they know, and thats what counts, creating new memories, and just having a good time. While I agree with most of what had been said now and in the past regarding Sequals, its not what we think but what the kids today think, that Disney is looking at. If the kids today want Kim Possible type junk as their Disney movies thats what disney s going to give them. yes its Business, but good Business. You can't fault them for that.
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The Worse and Best Sequles Ever
What do you think is the best sequles and the worse sequles? wirte them here,mine:
The worse:
1.Pocahontas II-horrible sequle,why does she have to go with Jhon Rolf? thanks for ruining the film,Disney.
2.The Little Mermaid II-Ariel is a mom!? just terrible.
3.The Lion King II-Same as The Little Mermaid II.
the best.
4.Return to NeverLand-simpley horrible,the characters,the animation,bahh,and that Octupes,TinkerBell is the only reason to watch it.
1.Cinderella III-the best sequle ever.
2.Mulan II-cute actually,it's not wonderfull like the original but it's better then other sequles.
3.Cinderella II-same as Mulan II,i never understand why it's got so bashed when there's worse sequles like The Little Mermaid II or Pocahontas II.
4.The Lion King 1.5-same as Mulan II and Cinderella II.
The worse:
1.Pocahontas II-horrible sequle,why does she have to go with Jhon Rolf? thanks for ruining the film,Disney.
2.The Little Mermaid II-Ariel is a mom!? just terrible.
3.The Lion King II-Same as The Little Mermaid II.
the best.
4.Return to NeverLand-simpley horrible,the characters,the animation,bahh,and that Octupes,TinkerBell is the only reason to watch it.
1.Cinderella III-the best sequle ever.
2.Mulan II-cute actually,it's not wonderfull like the original but it's better then other sequles.
3.Cinderella II-same as Mulan II,i never understand why it's got so bashed when there's worse sequles like The Little Mermaid II or Pocahontas II.
4.The Lion King 1.5-same as Mulan II and Cinderella II.
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Pick a topic, any topic...these may be best...
Why I'm interested in sequels
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Rank all the Disney DTV Sequels You've Seen!
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Sequels you like
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Opinion on the Disney Animated Classic sequels?
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Top Ten Animated Sequels
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What was the worst sequel or remake to a Disney film?
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Understanding the Disney DTV Sequels
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what awards would you give Disney sequels? (for fun)
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The sequel of a Disney Classic you fear the most!
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Bad News (Possible Disney Sequels)
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Post subject: Happy Anniversary to the Disney Sequels a.k.a Cheapquels!
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Sequels
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WHY DO SEQUELS THEY RUIN SOME FILMS
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CGI sequels to the Disney classics is not that bad
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Reasons for buying sequels...
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Disney sequels
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Rank all the Disney DTV Sequels You've Seen!
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Opinion on the Disney Animated Classic sequels?
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Top Ten Animated Sequels
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Understanding the Disney DTV Sequels
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what awards would you give Disney sequels? (for fun)
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AwallaceUNC: Would you prefer Substi-Blu-tiary Locomotion?
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So manyEscapay wrote:Pick a topic, any topic...these may be best...
Why I'm interested in sequels
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Rank all the Disney DTV Sequels You've Seen!
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Sequels you like
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Opinion on the Disney Animated Classic sequels?
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Top Ten Animated Sequels
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What was the worst sequel or remake to a Disney film?
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Understanding the Disney DTV Sequels
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what awards would you give Disney sequels? (for fun)
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And a few other sequel-related topics...
The sequel of a Disney Classic you fear the most!
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Bad News (Possible Disney Sequels)
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Post subject: Happy Anniversary to the Disney Sequels a.k.a Cheapquels!
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Sequels
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WHY DO SEQUELS THEY RUIN SOME FILMS
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CGI sequels to the Disney classics is not that bad
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Hmmm, I don't really hate any of them, but I don't love them either. I like them for what they are, not what they could be or should be. One thing to keep in mind Ariels Prince, is that the animation was more than likely not given the same treatment as the classic's a good example of this is Aladdin: Return of Jafar, it was the same animation as the t.v series.
Pocahontas 2:
Good things: The whole ballroom scene was very good IMO, as well as the song "Where Will I Go From Here"
Bad Things: At the moment the only thing that comes to find is some dialogue. Grandmother Willow for example, while understandable that she was under stress at the time it makes her go out of character)
Little Mermaid 2:
Good things: Well there's....umm...Oh I kinda liked the villains lair, was sort of neat in a way. I haven't seen the movie in forever, I'll try and repost about this one later. I also took a liking to a couple songs.
Bad Things: Flounder being old(er) it ruined him IMO. Tip and Dash, just an aquatic version of Timon and Pumbaa only without the gas
Lion King 2:
Good Thing: despite being a continuity error, I liked the villain Zira, and her song Zira's Lullaby is pretty good too.
Bad Things: the continuity errors, it also felt a tad repetitive with the whole Circle of Life theme, a tad overdone IMO. Lack of Hyenas, would have loved to see them try and get revenge or something
Return To Neverland:
Good Things: Tinkerbell comes to mind, also from what I remember they expanded on the Lost Boys I think.
Bad Things: The Octopus, lack of Tick-Tock. Jane not being able to take her brother to Neverland as well.
Cinderella 2 and 3 (may as well do both at once)
Good Things: Prudence enough said, expanding Anastasia was pretty neat as well.
Bad Things: Still not giving the Prince a name
Mulan 2:
Good Things: the following line "Well I wouldn't want to peel your paint" my friend and I still quote that for some odd reason. The one princesses laugh is hilarous, it made me do a weird laugh when I laughed at her laugh
Bad Things: No real villain, I would have wanted to see someone at least TRY to fill Shan-Yu's shoes a bit. Mushu enough said (although his voice actor did do a good job of sounding like Eddie Murphy)
Lion King 1.5
Good Things: Expands on Timon and Pumbaa's history (although it did contradict an episode from the series I think).
Bad Things: A bit of an over-emphasis on Pumbaa's gas (god I hate fart jokes/gags). The interruptions in the movie made my Timon and Pumbaa, it was just annoying to me.
I noticed a few sequels left off of your list, so here's a quick rundown on other Good/Bad things I can think of for sequels
-Aladdin King of Thieves - Animation was better than the second movie, enjoyed seeing Aladdin's father. Iago as a bit annoying. Good to see Robin Williams back as Genie
-Aladdin Return of Jafar - Seeing Iago's character go from static to evolving. Jafars Hat was horrible they should have stuck with the original. Missed hearing Robin Williams as the Genie.
-Kronks New Groove - Too episodic. Loved Yzma's tail though. Have to watch this one again though to find more likes/dislikes.
Pocahontas 2:
Good things: The whole ballroom scene was very good IMO, as well as the song "Where Will I Go From Here"
Bad Things: At the moment the only thing that comes to find is some dialogue. Grandmother Willow for example, while understandable that she was under stress at the time it makes her go out of character)
Little Mermaid 2:
Good things: Well there's....umm...Oh I kinda liked the villains lair, was sort of neat in a way. I haven't seen the movie in forever, I'll try and repost about this one later. I also took a liking to a couple songs.
Bad Things: Flounder being old(er) it ruined him IMO. Tip and Dash, just an aquatic version of Timon and Pumbaa only without the gas
Lion King 2:
Good Thing: despite being a continuity error, I liked the villain Zira, and her song Zira's Lullaby is pretty good too.
Bad Things: the continuity errors, it also felt a tad repetitive with the whole Circle of Life theme, a tad overdone IMO. Lack of Hyenas, would have loved to see them try and get revenge or something
Return To Neverland:
Good Things: Tinkerbell comes to mind, also from what I remember they expanded on the Lost Boys I think.
Bad Things: The Octopus, lack of Tick-Tock. Jane not being able to take her brother to Neverland as well.
Cinderella 2 and 3 (may as well do both at once)
Good Things: Prudence enough said, expanding Anastasia was pretty neat as well.
Bad Things: Still not giving the Prince a name
Mulan 2:
Good Things: the following line "Well I wouldn't want to peel your paint" my friend and I still quote that for some odd reason. The one princesses laugh is hilarous, it made me do a weird laugh when I laughed at her laugh
Bad Things: No real villain, I would have wanted to see someone at least TRY to fill Shan-Yu's shoes a bit. Mushu enough said (although his voice actor did do a good job of sounding like Eddie Murphy)
Lion King 1.5
Good Things: Expands on Timon and Pumbaa's history (although it did contradict an episode from the series I think).
Bad Things: A bit of an over-emphasis on Pumbaa's gas (god I hate fart jokes/gags). The interruptions in the movie made my Timon and Pumbaa, it was just annoying to me.
I noticed a few sequels left off of your list, so here's a quick rundown on other Good/Bad things I can think of for sequels
-Aladdin King of Thieves - Animation was better than the second movie, enjoyed seeing Aladdin's father. Iago as a bit annoying. Good to see Robin Williams back as Genie
-Aladdin Return of Jafar - Seeing Iago's character go from static to evolving. Jafars Hat was horrible they should have stuck with the original. Missed hearing Robin Williams as the Genie.
-Kronks New Groove - Too episodic. Loved Yzma's tail though. Have to watch this one again though to find more likes/dislikes.
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Belle's Magical World is a bad movie,they made Belle something like the "Pure Good" in the castle and everone must listen to her (i like Belle but they made her Pure good like a god and everyone must listen to her).Jack Skellington wrote:= Beauty & the Beast 3
She and The Beast are allways fighting on nonsense like they're brother and sisters.
Very bad movie.
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Hmmm.Chernabog_Rocks wrote:Hmmm, I don't really hate any of them, but I don't love them either. I like them for what they are, not what they could be or should be. One thing to keep in mind Ariels Prince, is that the animation was more than likely not given the same treatment as the classic's a good example of this is Aladdin: Return of Jafar, it was the same animation as the t.v series.
Pocahontas 2:
Good things: The whole ballroom scene was very good IMO, as well as the song "Where Will I Go From Here"
Bad Things: At the moment the only thing that comes to find is some dialogue. Grandmother Willow for example, while understandable that she was under stress at the time it makes her go out of character)
Little Mermaid 2:
Good things: Well there's....umm...Oh I kinda liked the villains lair, was sort of neat in a way. I haven't seen the movie in forever, I'll try and repost about this one later. I also took a liking to a couple songs.
Bad Things: Flounder being old(er) it ruined him IMO. Tip and Dash, just an aquatic version of Timon and Pumbaa only without the gas
Lion King 2:
Good Thing: despite being a continuity error, I liked the villain Zira, and her song Zira's Lullaby is pretty good too.
Bad Things: the continuity errors, it also felt a tad repetitive with the whole Circle of Life theme, a tad overdone IMO. Lack of Hyenas, would have loved to see them try and get revenge or something
Return To Neverland:
Good Things: Tinkerbell comes to mind, also from what I remember they expanded on the Lost Boys I think.
Bad Things: The Octopus, lack of Tick-Tock. Jane not being able to take her brother to Neverland as well.
Cinderella 2 and 3 (may as well do both at once)
Good Things: Prudence enough said, expanding Anastasia was pretty neat as well.
Bad Things: Still not giving the Prince a name
Mulan 2:
Good Things: the following line "Well I wouldn't want to peel your paint" my friend and I still quote that for some odd reason. The one princesses laugh is hilarous, it made me do a weird laugh when I laughed at her laugh
Bad Things: No real villain, I would have wanted to see someone at least TRY to fill Shan-Yu's shoes a bit. Mushu enough said (although his voice actor did do a good job of sounding like Eddie Murphy)
Lion King 1.5
Good Things: Expands on Timon and Pumbaa's history (although it did contradict an episode from the series I think).
Bad Things: A bit of an over-emphasis on Pumbaa's gas (god I hate fart jokes/gags). The interruptions in the movie made my Timon and Pumbaa, it was just annoying to me.
I noticed a few sequels left off of your list, so here's a quick rundown on other Good/Bad things I can think of for sequels
-Aladdin King of Thieves - Animation was better than the second movie, enjoyed seeing Aladdin's father. Iago as a bit annoying. Good to see Robin Williams back as Genie
-Aladdin Return of Jafar - Seeing Iago's character go from static to evolving. Jafars Hat was horrible they should have stuck with the original. Missed hearing Robin Williams as the Genie.
-Kronks New Groove - Too episodic. Loved Yzma's tail though. Have to watch this one again though to find more likes/dislikes.
In The Little Mermaid II:
only good things were the sence where Ariel see a little fish and she think it's Flounder.
Return To NeverLand:
about Good things i"ll add the sence that TinkerBell is dying and Jane start crying and saying she does believe in fairies and then TinkerBell gets up,and the sence that Peter Pan and TinkerBell meet wendy after she grew up.
and about wendy brother (his name is Danny):there's a PS2 and GBA games who are like a sequles to Return to NeverLand and she does take him to NeverLand.
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Best: Easily The Rescuers Down Under, Fantasia 2000, Cinderella: Twist in Time and Bambi and the Great Prince.
Inbetween: Mulan II, Simba's Pride, Beauty and the Beast: The Enchanted Christmas, The Lion King 1 and 1/2, Return of Jafar, Aladdin and the King of Thieves, Pocahontas II: Journey to a New World and Return to Neverland.
Worst: Return to the Sea, The Jungle Book II, Scamp's Adventure, Patch's London Adventure, Cinderella II: Dreams Come True, The Hunchback of Notre Dame II, Atlantis II, Belle's Magical World.
I've never seen Kronk's New Groove, any Lilo & Stitch sequel, Brother Bear II, An Extremely Goofy Movie, The Fox and the Hound II, or the Tarzan midquel.
Most of the Winnie the Pooh movies turn out pretty good. I remember really liking The Tigger Movie.
Inbetween: Mulan II, Simba's Pride, Beauty and the Beast: The Enchanted Christmas, The Lion King 1 and 1/2, Return of Jafar, Aladdin and the King of Thieves, Pocahontas II: Journey to a New World and Return to Neverland.
Worst: Return to the Sea, The Jungle Book II, Scamp's Adventure, Patch's London Adventure, Cinderella II: Dreams Come True, The Hunchback of Notre Dame II, Atlantis II, Belle's Magical World.
I've never seen Kronk's New Groove, any Lilo & Stitch sequel, Brother Bear II, An Extremely Goofy Movie, The Fox and the Hound II, or the Tarzan midquel.
Most of the Winnie the Pooh movies turn out pretty good. I remember really liking The Tigger Movie.
Listening to most often lately:
Taylor Swift ~ "Elizabeth Taylor"
Katy Perry ~ "bandaid"
Meghan Trainor ~ "Still Don't Care"
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Out of the very long list of topics to merge with (provided by Escapay the Tracker), I think this one fits best.
Ariel'sprince, I would like to remind you that posting within a few minutes of yourself is frowned upon. Please make one post instead of several small posts in a row, multiple small posts by a single member clutters up the forums.
Getting back on topic, I think Fantasia 2000 and The Rescuers Down Under are the best theatrically released sequels. My picks for best direct to video sequel would be Cinderella III, Lilo and Stitch II, and Bambi II.
My picks for the worst sequels would be Cinderella II and Belle's Magical World.
Ariel'sprince, I would like to remind you that posting within a few minutes of yourself is frowned upon. Please make one post instead of several small posts in a row, multiple small posts by a single member clutters up the forums.
Getting back on topic, I think Fantasia 2000 and The Rescuers Down Under are the best theatrically released sequels. My picks for best direct to video sequel would be Cinderella III, Lilo and Stitch II, and Bambi II.
My picks for the worst sequels would be Cinderella II and Belle's Magical World.
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How about knocking it off? Not you, Ichabod.Ariel'sprince wrote:How about the worse and best unnacarcey posts?ichabod wrote:How about the worse and best grammar?.
My favorite sequels are both Cinderella sequels, Mulan II, and Peter Pan II. While I'm not a big Neverland fan, I did enjoy Peter Pan's sequel.
Lady and the Tramp II is a movie I thoroughly enjoyed when it first premiered. It isn't among my favorites, but I liked it for some odd reason. "Some odd reason" probably had a lot to do with Scamp's sisters and Angel. The Fox and the Hound II wins points from me because of the character Dixie.
Lilo and Stitch II and The Enchanted Christmas register near the top for me, as well. I don't compare these two to the original (nor do I truly compare Cinderella II to its original), but I like them as touching individual movies.
Stitch: The Movie ranked low for me, on the other hand. In fact, most of the sequels I have not mentioned I have either seen only once, not seen, am impartial to, or thoroughly dislike. I want to remain blissfully ignorant of The Hunchback of Notre Dame II. I saw bits of it at a movie store and literally shuddered. Atlantis II was simply boring. By now, you're probably familiar with my "I fell asleep while watching it" adventure, or anti-adventure, as it were.
That's hot.