Computer Question

Hogi Bear · Post by **Hogi Bear** » Fri Sep 23, 2005 12:26 am

Good to hear about the new computer, you'll notice a huge improvement compared to your old one.

10 GBs is for if you made an exact copy of a DVD (Data or Movie) or if you burn a DVD (Dual Layer Discs can store 8.5 GB worth).

I want to build a new computer in the next year as well, Ive got a small form factor Compaq Evo, and have run out of PCI slots and wouldn't mind room for another drive or two (5.25" and 3.5"). I'm hoping to do that in the next year or so, but I'm hoping the prices for the AMD Athlon 64 bit (939 Socket) CPUs will come down, they're approximately double the price of motherboards.

DarthPrime · Post by **DarthPrime** » Fri Sep 23, 2005 12:28 am

Oh its a DVD burner. Those require space to store the content before burning to a DVD. I guess thats where the space requirements come into play.

eMachines are actually ok. The only problem I've seen with them is power supply problems. 2 of my friends bought one and both had to replace the power supply after about a year.

Congrats on your new computer

Going from Windows 98 to a new XP machine is going to be great.

memnv · Post by **memnv** » Fri Sep 23, 2005 12:30 am

I had a E-machine and it was the worst computer I ever had, @ days after I bought it I had to return the Monitor, The computer also froze on me all the time, My father in Law had one too and it was also a piece of crap

Nala · Post by **Nala** » Fri Sep 23, 2005 12:58 am

DarthPrime wrote:Upgrading to a different Operating System would probably help with your computer if its crashing or blue screening. Windows 2000 and Windows XP are both very stable MS Operating Systems. Personally I would recommend Windows 2000 over Windows XP if you only have 256 Megs of RAM. 2000 and XP are almost identical. You just want have all the eye candy that XP has. But upgrading your OS would set you back around $100 to $150 for the Pro versions, XP Home would be about $90.

If the machine hasn't been reformatted since you bought it (or its been a year or so) that might be one of the reasons its slow. Reinstalling Windows from scratch and your programs can help. Also have you run a virus scanner and some anti spyware apps? You could have a virus or some spyware on the system thats causing it to be slow.

Anyway... 500MHz with 256 Megs of RAM should be just fine for a DVD. I have a friend that still has an older Celeron 366 MHz with 512 Megs of RAM that plays DVDs fine.

Upgrading your OS is always an option, but I would try a reformat or run some virus/anti spyware scanners first. Windows 98 should be plenty fast on that system.

EDIT: I just saw your post about getting a new computer. Have fun with it.

Why did the DVD drive require 10 gigs? thats insane. I'm using PowerDVD and it takes up hardly any space at all. Windows XP would have fit on that 10 gig drive. It would require between 2 and 3 gigs to install.

Anyway congrats on getting a new computer. I'm planning to build another one next year for myself since the one I have now is showing its age badly. Not sure if I'll stay with Windows XP or try the new Windows Vista thats coming out.

What is blue screening?

Hogi Bear · Post by **Hogi Bear** » Fri Sep 23, 2005 1:13 am

Nala wrote: What is blue screening?

This (aka (or also known as) the blue screen of death):

Basically it happens when Windows runs out of memory or something.

ThiagoPE · Post by **ThiagoPE** » Fri Sep 23, 2005 9:15 am

hehehe it remeberem me of a funny video made before the 2004 elections in US, was bush and powel ploting how they could fraud the election for bush wins against kerry, the solution was in the BSoD, hehehe

Even being in portuguese, is worth watch it

http://charges.uol.com.br/charges/20041028som.swf

Nala · Post by **Nala** » Fri Sep 23, 2005 12:20 pm

Hogi Bear wrote:
Nala wrote: What is blue screening?
This (aka (or also known as) the blue screen of death):

Basically it happens when Windows runs out of memory or something.

I've had that happen to me quite often.

Hogi Bear · Post by **Hogi Bear** » Fri Sep 23, 2005 2:49 pm

You won't have to worry about the blue screen in Windows XP or the Illegal Operation error messages, they've been removed.

Nala · Post by **Nala** » Mon Sep 26, 2005 7:34 pm

Hogi Bear wrote:You won't have to worry about the blue screen in Windows XP or the Illegal Operation error messages, they've been removed.

I had that Illegal Operation happen quite often. My old computer said "OUCH" whenever it did that and it drove me nuts. I like the Windows XP plus the keyboard that came with the computer is really comfortable and a scroll mouse was also included. It also came with a 60-day Internet Security. After that I have to buy the program.

DarthPrime · Post by **DarthPrime** » Mon Sep 26, 2005 8:24 pm

Hogi Bear wrote:You won't have to worry about the blue screen in Windows XP or the Illegal Operation error messages, they've been removed.

Actually Windows 2000/XP can "blue screen". Its very rare since those operating systems are a lot more stable than the Win 9x series, but it can happen.

Nala · Post by **Nala** » Mon Sep 26, 2005 11:35 pm

DarthPrime wrote:
Hogi Bear wrote:You won't have to worry about the blue screen in Windows XP or the Illegal Operation error messages, they've been removed.
Actually Windows 2000/XP can "blue screen". Its very rare since those operating systems are a lot more stable than the Win 9x series, but it can happen.

Actually, I can't remember Windows 95 doing it. That was the previous version I had prior to getting the Internet.

Hogi Bear · Post by **Hogi Bear** » Tue Sep 27, 2005 1:17 am

DarthPrime wrote:
Hogi Bear wrote:You won't have to worry about the blue screen in Windows XP or the Illegal Operation error messages, they've been removed.
Actually Windows 2000/XP can "blue screen". Its very rare since those operating systems are a lot more stable than the Win 9x series, but it can happen.

Interesting, I've never had it happen in XP, it has crashed a few times and that, but no blue screens. I've had Windows 2000 come up with a white screen and also a black screen and it's basically been none responsive.

Memory Leaks

DarthPrime · Post by **DarthPrime** » Tue Sep 27, 2005 1:46 am

I don't remember having a Blue Screen in XP, but I do remember one in 2000. It booted up and then blue screened. Whatever happened totally messed up Windows though, and I had to reinstall.

Windows 95 was the worst for blue screening on me. I remember having to reformat almost monthly until I got 98. Still 98 screwed up a lot. I never used NT 4, but went to 2000 Pro as soon as it was available. It was better than 98, but didn't start really getting good until around SP1 as far as drivers, etc...

XP has been fine as well, and 2000 has benifited from it since most drivers are XP/2000 ones. The only thing bad about 2000 right now is Internet Explorer is going to stop at 6 (IE 7 will be XP/Vista/Server 2003 only), and Media Player 9 is the last media player for it. Its only bad though if you use IE or Windows Media Player though since you want get the new features.

I never used it much, but messing around with Windows ME on one of my friends systems it was a huge backstep from 98. That thing crashed like crazy.

Hogi Bear · Post by **Hogi Bear** » Tue Sep 27, 2005 4:48 am

Windows 2000's GUI (Graphical User Interface) is based on the versions of Windows before it, that's why they still have the blue screen Win2000. XP was a complete GUI over haul.

I agree with the step back with Windows ME, I have no idea how they increased the memory leaks in it.

Since I installed Firefox last year, I haven't missed IE one bit, except for the Go button, which they added in the first Release Candidate.

DarthPrime · Post by **DarthPrime** » Tue Sep 27, 2005 11:35 am

Yeah I moved away from IE a long time ago as well. I first started out on Phoenix, which later changed its name to Firebird. Firebird then changed its name to Firefox and the rest is history.

Firefox is great, but over the past few weeks I've once again switched browsers. Since Opera gave away free keys for their 10th anniversary, and now with the new version 8.5 completely free I've switched to Opera. Its a really great browser. I still use Mozilla Thunderbird for my email though.

XP in my opinion is nothing more than Windows 2000 version 2 (2000 is really NT 5, and XP is NT 5.1). Both build off the NT operating system, and have nothing to do with the Win 9x line. Thats why NT/2000/XP/2003 Server don't use DOS, while 95/98/ME do.

It is so similar, but XP adds a few things that 2000 doesn't have (System Restore, Security Center in SP2, etc...). Plus you have the new Luna interface which can be switched to Classic for the people that don't like XPs new GUI.

I'm interested in seeing what Vista has to offer next year. If its just a GUI upgrade I'll probably just stick with my XP/2000 machines. But only time will tell. From the screenshots I've seen online it does look very nice in the beta stages. So does the new Office, which has gotten a GUI upgrade. The toolbars are completely different from older versions of Office.

Hogi Bear · Post by **Hogi Bear** » Tue Sep 27, 2005 6:05 pm

Yeah, XP and 2000 are upgrades from NT, but they still have a lot of code that the 9x versions have. That's why they continue to say that certain updates will fix flaws dating back to the Win95 or whatever.

It'll be interesting how Vista turns out though. It'll be more than a GUI upgrade, because it has to be able to run 64 bit applications and you can't do that in a 32 bit OS. Isn't the release date for Vista 2007, or have they gone and changed it again?

Office 12 does look interesting with the tabbed toolbars, it'll be interesting to see how that works and if Office XP (10) and 2003 (11) document types (like Excel spreadsheets) will be compatible with Office 12.

Thanks for note about Opera, I'm going to give it a try. Good to know they removed the advertisement window (though a project has to pay for itself somehow (sometimes)).

DarthPrime · Post by **DarthPrime** » Tue Sep 27, 2005 7:53 pm

I think Microsoft is trying to release Vista in late 2006. I haven't heard if it was going to be 64 bit only. I know they have removed a lot of the features that they said would ship with Vista. One of them was some sort of new file system that would replace FAT/NTFS.

I think it will probably be like XP and be released in a 32 bit and a 64 bit format. Right now though nothing really benefits from 64 bit XP since there isn't many drivers and you have to use 64 bit applications to really take advantage of it.

I don't know why Opera just removed the ads and stopped charging for it, but I've enjoyed it. They had a 24 hour thing where you registered your email address and you got a key for Opera 8.02. Then a few weeks later Opera 8.50 was released and it was completely free. I think it will be interesting seeing Opera/FF now that they are both free to download and use.

One thing I do miss from Firefox is the Adblock extension. I haven't found anything like that for Opera yet.

Hogi Bear · Post by **Hogi Bear** » Wed Sep 28, 2005 3:19 pm

Vista will be able to emulate the 32 bit environment, but I'm not sure if it will be able to be installed on 32 bit chip and if it is whether it'll be integrated into a single release or individual. Yeah, they'd been saying they were going to drop the WinFS file system and add it later when it's finished or something. It's for support for larger Hard drive (up to 300 GB or something). So you would still use NTFS for Hard drives under 150 GB (or whatever the limit will be performance wise) and FAT for HDDs under 32 GB, unless they optimise it for all sizes efficiently.

There will obviously a 64 bit version of MS Office for Vista and it was said that Unreal Tournament was going to have a 64 bit version (2007 I think), but that could be for PS3 (which is 64 bit) and/or Xbox 360 if it's 64 bit.

blackcauldron85 · Post by **blackcauldron85** » Wed Jan 27, 2010 5:05 am

Unrelated to the above discussion, but is still a computer question!

If I send an email attachment to someone (or myself), and then delete the file from my computer, will the other person (or myself) be able to open the attachment?

Elladorine · Post by **Elladorine** » Wed Jan 27, 2010 5:33 am

blackcauldron85 wrote:Unrelated to the above discussion, but is still a computer question!

If I send an email attachment to someone (or myself), and then delete the file from my computer, will the other person (or myself) be able to open the attachment?

Once a file is attached to an email, it no longer needs to access the original file from the computer. So even if the original file has been deleted from the computer from which it was taken, whomever is opening the email should be able to open the attached file just fine (as long as the attached file didn't get corrupted or something).

Hope this helps.

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