Bambi II DVD Press Release

[Wonderlicious]

Am I the only one who thinks it's a mistake to step inside Bambi's current story and continue from there? I mean, sure if it was a proper sequel that turned out crap, we could just pretend it never happened. But this, no... This is treading on thin ice. This is classic, and the sequel could very much ruin what Walt and his animators were trying to create. Disney has gone too far with this one I say. Anyone else with me on this?

Well, that is my opinion as well. I have actually calmed down after looking at the press release initially, so I can actually expand on the angry yet simple "erm...no" reply. In my opinion, the story just doesn't work from what is written on paper, as it doesn't flow with the original Bambi (such as keeping events to do only with nature).

Oh, and Jens; I hope that I'm not appearing as though I'm saying that Toon Studios sucks. As DisneyFan2000 pointed out, its only the story which seems to be the most likely loss, as from the clip on the Bambi DVD, the animation looked good. Admitedly, the animation doesn't seem to quite match the style of the original film, but this doesn't matter in my opinion, as it's not as if this film is being physically inserted into the original film. However, the story just seems out of place in the whole legacy of the film from the synopsis. I don't think that I'll buy this DVD...

[2099net]

Am I the only one who thinks it's a mistake to step inside Bambi's current story and continue from there? I mean, sure if it was a proper sequel that turned out crap, we could just pretend it never happened. But this, no... This is treading on thin ice. This is classic, and the sequel could very much ruin what Walt and his animators were trying to create.

It won't ruin anything. Just forget about it if you don't like it. People managed to forget about Highlander II - everyone forgot about the Batman films, both Burton's and Schumaker's due to Batman Begins (which incidently rewrote the backstory of the first film). Even the Japanese forgot about Spiral (the true sequel to Ring, and based on the novel's sequel) and made Ring 2 more successful than the first film.

No sequel, prequel or midquel can ruin an existing work-of-art. Even if the story appears to contradict the original.

[creid]

Am I the only one who thinks it's a mistake to step inside Bambi's current story and continue from there? I mean, sure if it was a proper sequel that turned out crap, we could just pretend it never happened. But this, no... This is treading on thin ice. This is classic, and the sequel could very much ruin what Walt and his animators were trying to create. Disney has gone too far with this one I say. Anyone else with me on this?

Unfortunately, I am in the camp of not looking forward to this one. Nothing against the current group of animators but they are competing against the legends of animation, The Disney studio from 1935 -1943:

Bambi is easily the beautiful feature length that powerful themes of beauty of nature and the circle of life with the passing of time and seasons. It is also the most cinematic Disney film as you can turn off the dialogue sound and know exactly what is going on. It took a lot effort by the Disney script team to devise a movie about a villian who is never seen. (You do need the sounds of the music, forest and gun shots to know what is going on.) These are qualities of the DTV products are not noted for.

[orestes.]

No sequel, prequel or midquel can ruin an existing work-of-art. Even if the story appears to contradict the original.

It can ruin it for me but maybe I'm one in a million. Okay when I mean ruin I don't mean utterly destroy the original but it does take away from the original and usually I don't feel as attached to the movie as I once did.

(Oh and who forgot the Tim Burton Batman movies? They are crazy! )

[KinOO]

everyone forgot about the Batman films, both Burton's and Schumaker's due to Batman Begins (which incidently rewrote the backstory of the first film).

?????

the Batman movies are INTERPRETATIONS of a franchise (a myth if you want), in comics books, in cartoons or even novels! each movie were a vision and an interpretation of his director, Burton's was gothic and mythologic while Nolan's Batman Begins is a more darker and realistic approach!

Well, but BAMBI2 is NO WAY a new adaptation of a story, it is a cheap way to make new stuff with BAMBI AS A KIDDIE to sell more plush and appeal to the very young with no caring of the original movie's respect or logic (come on, to put a VILLAIN in Bambi? WTF???) ! If you're pleased with Deja's or Toon Studios marketing speeches, very well then! Have fun! I will pass on this one, disappointed by the "very good" (-c) Jens- Mulan2 and Tarzan2!

[Roger Rabbit]

It won't ruin the original unless you let it ruin the original. If you don't like it after one showing, don't watch it ever again and soon enough it won't matter since you'll have forgotten about it. Simple as that. I've seen most of those LBT sequels and boy I hate them, but that doesn't mean I like the original any less.

[Disney-Fan]

It won't ruin anything. Just forget about it if you don't like it.

I'll try. But after Lion King 1.5 I could not look at the opening title again. I'm deeply sorry I had to see Pumba fart, and take a magical moment away from me. Lets hope Bambi II won't try being as witty as The Lion King 1.5!

everyone forgot about the Batman films, both Burton's and Schumaker's due to Batman Begins (which incidently rewrote the backstory of the first film).

Trust me, no one has forgoten the disgrace that is Batman & Robin. I couldn't forget that if I was brain washed! =P And btw, Batman Begins reboots the franchise. It wasn't planned to rewrite Burton's backstory.

Anyway, my whole point was, how far are Disney willing to go to make a few millions? We are now treading on classic ground, interferring in a perfectly good story, right in th middle of it!

[Timon/Pumbaa fan]

I agree with DisneyFan on this.

I mean I didn't mind Lion King 1 1/2 so much because:

1. Most of the people who made the Lion King were okay with this sequel.

2. I found LK 1 1/2 to be a point of view! I mean I didn't believe Pumbaa farting made those animals fall, I just think that's how Timon and Pumbaa see it.

As for Bambi annoys me because Disney and the majority of the people who made this have passed away.

For all we know, they all could've laughed at the idea because the idea would sound awful. But the truth it we don't know what they would've thought of it. I mean I really like Andreas Deja, just because he liked it doesn't mean Walt or his team of animators would. So I think they should just leave the classics only and if they really wanted to make DTVs they should make them only to current Disney movies.

It would be interesting to know what Ollie Johnston thinks of these sequels.

[Zoltack]

Yeah they knew about the movie but unlike the producers of the original Bambi they don't know about the book. I mean they know it exist but what I'm trying to say is that they sort of followed the book in the original movie so they should sort of follow the book in the new movie as well. Eventhough, the novel doesn't really elaberate on how Bambi grew up without his mother very well either.

How do you know they didn't know about the book?

Oh, what was I gonna say I had a really good statement backing up that post. Well, I'm sure they knew about the book what I was really trying to say was they based it on the movie more than the book. I mean the new movie I'm assuming( because GP didn't take care of Bambi after his mother died in the book) will not follow the book what so ever. Which is what is making me upset.

Another thing that makes me upset is that I'm sure they gonna incorperate more human characteristics in the characters more than in the original. I mean they kept it to a minimum in the original by not having them speak to much or stand on their hind quarters. But as I saw in the trailer of the new movie, that's pretty much the opposite. I bet they'll never incoperate any animal instincts (except FF) in any of the characters.

But I still want to see it.

[2099net]

It won't ruin anything. Just forget about it if you don't like it.

I'll try. But after Lion King 1.5 I could not look at the opening title again. I'm deeply sorry I had to see Pumba fart, and take a magical moment away from me. Lets hope Bambi II won't try being as witty as The Lion King 1.5!

everyone forgot about the Batman films, both Burton's and Schumaker's due to Batman Begins (which incidently rewrote the backstory of the first film).

Trust me, no one has forgoten the disgrace that is Batman & Robin. I couldn't forget that if I was brain washed! =P And btw, Batman Begins reboots the franchise. It wasn't planned to rewrite Burton's backstory.

Anyway, my whole point was, how far are Disney willing to go to make a few millions? We are now treading on classic ground, interferring in a perfectly good story, right in th middle of it!

It doesn't matter how it was planned. Batman Begins effectively erases the previous films from the current film continuity. The backstory is different. The interpertation (as KinOO says) is different. Everything is different.

It's funny. People hate sequels and remakes. But everyone on this forum seems to like the NON-DISNEY ones. Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, Batman films, Spider-Man, X-Men, Resident Evil... all get lots of pre-release hype that everyone buys into. I bet at the time people were looking forward to Batman and Robin. Yet without a doubt everyone make poor excuses for not liking the Disney sequels before they even see them: The name has changed. It has "country" music. The voices are different.

One rule for Disney... another rule for every other studio. How can you expect Disney to be competetive when it is bound by extra rules and expectations all the time?

I don't really see your point KinOO. The Batman films are as different from the comics as from each other as from the TV series with Adam West as from the cartoon series. I mean, the new The Batman cartoon is the absolute pits, but it doesn't spoil anyone's enjoyment of the classic Batman: The Animated Series.

I don't see why Bambi II is any different from this. Its an new story, which YOU CAN IGNORE if you don't like it. It's not like Disney are going to go back and recall all the Bambi books and plug Bambi II story in the middle!

[Jens]

Well? What did everyone think of the new Bambi II stills? I think they look stunning!

[Wonderlicious]

Well? What did everyone think of the new Bambi II stills? I think they look stunning!

Ignorance is bliss.

[Disneybell]

hey guys I think Bambi 2 sounds really cute and it gives some character developement which i like i like somethe dtv sequeals i loved lilo and stitch 2 and lion kin 1 1/2 it rocked in my opinion

[Zoltack]

I like them hence my Avatar...

I'm still a little worried about the singing. I swear if they sing.... well you're just going to have to go to "Explain your Avatar" thread in the Off Topic Forum to find out.

[Zoltack]

Here I go again...
Looking at those still I see that Ronno is still pretty young I mean he lost his spots and usally deer loose there spots after 6-12 months after being born. The thing is in the book when Bambi meets Ronno for the first time, he's an adult with antlers. Well, he didn't have them at the time, he sheaded them off. And his leg had been shot and he is lame. Totally the opposite in this movie. They can't even say it was Karus either (another one of Bambi's rivals) because he's an adult too.
Ahhhhh, it makes my brain hert thinking about it. I'm going to look at the positive side. The animation looks great, I mean the only thing about it is that I'm used to the classic stlye of animation in the origanal so I'm not really into this moderen type of animation. I mean they still use impressionism for the background, that's good I mean you really cant spend a lot of time on detail when you have a dead line to reach. The detail of the characters I think is pretty good, I wish they had a little more buy like I said... dead line.
So now I just get curiouser and curiouser. I really hope I wont be disappointed. I mean even if they do sing, I might be able to tolorate it. But watching the trailer the voices are pretty annoying anyways. It's going to take some getting use to.

[Disney-Fan]

It's funny. People hate sequels and remakes. But everyone on this forum seems to like the NON-DISNEY ones. Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, Batman films, Spider-Man, X-Men, Resident Evil... all get lots of pre-release hype that everyone buys into. I bet at the time people were looking forward to Batman and Robin. Yet without a doubt everyone make poor excuses for not liking the Disney sequels before they even see them: The name has changed. It has "country" music. The voices are different.

Lets get some things straight:
1. I never claimed I don't like sequels/prequels/remakes. I love 'em, as long as they're done properly, not in a direct-to-video factory. Disney has proven sequels can be worthy of the source material (Rescuers). If they really wanted to they could try harder with this as well.

2. Check out reviews. Even back then people were anticipating Batman and Robin with hesitation. Same thing as here.

3. This so-called "midquel" steps in the middle of an existing [classic] story. To say making a sequel/prequel to a modern franchise is the same as treading in the middle of classic material is a bit of a strech.

We as fans should be supportive of Disney, but not at all costs. There are things I cannot ignore. Things that in my opinion are crossing the line. This is one of them.

[KinOO]

We as fans should be supportive of Disney, but not at all costs. There are things I cannot ignore. Things that in my opinion are crossing the line. This is one of them.

Amen to that!!!

This movie STINKS money! Walt cut this part for a reason, but no, let's make a movie with Cute young Bambi just as we did cute baby Tarzan and his funny plushy friends, if not, our stores won't be able to sell our billions freaky Thumer rabbits plushes!

I love the Disney of Snow White, Lion King and Lilo and Stitch and surely the Disney of American Dog, Rapunzel etc... but i HATE the Mulan2, Bambi2 and a lot of 2ish Disney!!! I wanna spend my money on Disney quality products!

[Zoltack]

but i HATE the Mulan2, Bambi2 and a lot of 2ish Disney!!! I wanna spend my money on Disney quality products!

How can you hate a movie that you never even seen yet? Yeah you get a good idea what's it's going to be like in the trailer and it doesn't look to good right now. But that's just a taste of it, you actually have to watch the whole thing to see wheater you hate it or not. But I deffenitly agree with everything else you said. You know Bambi is one movie that they should of left alone but Disney has to make money some how.

[Isidour]

At first I neither liked the idea of a sequel, and I still I don´t like, but when I look the new image I find some charm on t and I think, "wow, maybe is not that bad really" at least talking on the visual concept.
Faline and Bambi looks very cute,the most for me on the 3rd image on the left.

I still don´t like the iea of country music of doing a sweeter Great Prince, but maybe it will be not that bad after all

[Roger Rabbit]

They were rumored to have been working on Snow White 2 but that didn't sit too well with the popular masses. I think Dumbo ran into the same problem. Why didn't anyone stand up for Bambi and say "no thanks"?