This movie is something I liked, but I may actually not really watch it much, if any more, at all, beyond showing it to friends. I don't know if that means it's really bad, or if it just means I prefer watching Cinderella movies, classic (Walt-Renaissance+Princess and the Frog, Tangled, and Frozen) Disney movies, and some horror movies. I do plan to buy it, though. Maybe because it's about the making of the world's first fairy godmother like
tsom explained (thanks, man!).
I am responsing to the different things I found in this thread after finally reading through it all, so, here goes:
This movie does not have the same title as a Disney cruise ship. There is a ship called the "
Disney Wish", not "Wish".
The music of
Avenue Q was written by Robert Lopez and Jeff Marx, and the music for
The Book of Mormon was written by Robert Lopez, Trey Parker and Matt Stone.
This movie does not have the actual
Paperman type of animation.
Paperman used some actual hand-drawn animation in it, and
Wish does not.
Dahlia looked like a mix of Doc and Snow White herself to me. But you're right,
D82, she also looks like the good fairies in their peasant forms! But Dahlia also bakes like Snow White.
This film doesn't have the painterly style of animation Glen Keane wanted for
Rapunzel. For that, not only was the look of everything way more painterly, but it looked like Fragonard, not past Disney watercolor films. Also, Sleeping Beauty was not a watercolor film. It used a different type of paint.
When Magnifico goes to his laboratory, I was hoping we'd see him go down the stairs with his cape billowing like Queen Grimhilde in Snow White. I think
UmbrellaFish wanted this as well?
I liked how Asha did her own animation as a Disney reference. And it was cute animation!
Jennifer Lee was bullcrapping about hand-drawn animation not working for this film. If they couldn't get "camera angles" and "characterization" they wanted for this film, they couldn't do it for any film, so saying they choose the right animation to fit the right story is bullcrap.
Mooky was right, they can do great animated angles, and even greater characterization with hand-drawn. And if they used the true hand-drawn-involved
Paperman style, it would be better than anything normal CGI could do, and be perfect for
Wish.
Thank you Amy for the Star stardust pictures with Cinderella references,
Amy! But I still don't think I will get that book.
The Disneynerd, it's an interesting theory you say Alan Menken wrote music that is lyric-driven, when he is the music writer, not the lyric writer. Did you mean you think he could write great music using whatever lyric-writing his partner would give him?
Mooky wrote: ↑Fri Nov 17, 2023 12:42 pmElMaximo13 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 17, 2023 11:45 amThis review confirms that the movie has a storybook opening
Why exactly? It's an original story with fairytale elements, not based on a pre-existing material.
Should have opened with a little cartoon of Jennifer Lee watching that DVD boxset of Disney classics and picking which ones to reference.
Haha! You're right!
Carolinakid, "A Star is Not Born"? That's hilarious! Hahaha
Star in human form probably would have been a love interest for Asha because of the romantic duet with the words, "love you" that was in the original version of "At All Costs".
You were right,
Brelly, that Amaya should have tried to help her husband reverse his evil more. Personally, I thought Magnifico
not being redeemed was one of the problems of the movie. It was the magic that made him evil. Instead of that, he should have
chosen to be evil. They shouldn't have made it that the dark magic turns someone dark. And if they did, like
Brelly said, he should have been redeemed. And yet he was an asshole before he turned evil. Ugh, it was messy writing, like
Brelly said!
Elladorine, interesting idea Magnifico and his people may have been a religious reference, but you said it's like people giving up a piece of their soul to eventually have a higher purpose, and people who don't believe in religion usually don't believe in souls either. I just don't think it was meant to be a religious reference. Also, I'm sorry, but Asha's silliness did almost go to adorkable level. Thank God it was just in the beginning! I liked what you said about Magnifico already being bad before the book. If only he still had a choice in being truly evil when using the book, rather than the book making him evil. Then the writing would work for me.
Farerb wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2023 11:17 pmCalling Wish "original" is generous.
But is is truly original! I have seen no other movie like where a magic King makes a kingdom where he takes his people's wishes and grants some of them, and a girl discovers he won't grant important ones, and she also realizes people should get to have their dreams, even if they don't come true, so they shouldn't forget about them, so she makes a wish on a star and that star comes to life and helps her on a journey to fix that!
megustajake wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2023 1:19 amcarolinakid wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2023 11:14 amWDW Pro has an interesting you tube video about several animators coming forward to tell how Wish was taken over by activists who turned it from charming to propaganda.
What “propaganda” is embedded in Wish? I think the movie is pretty safe overall, though I did like its implication we’re all made of stardust.
Yes, what propaganda was there? By the way, it's actually true our bodies do come from star dust, from the stars that came forth and exploded after the big bang.
Mooky wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2023 7:24 pmTo me, forgetting your wish upon giving it away is more of a plot hole. What reason would anyone have to look forward to the wish-granting ceremony if you didn’t know what your wish was? The "winner" is not announced in advance so there's really nothing to get you hyped up, you'd just be standing in the crowd waiting for... what exactly? When you forget your wish, you basically lose an important part of yourself, your whole drive. The premise had a great potential, but the execution was half-baked. I’d have liked to see a version where giving away your wish is done in exchange for money or protection, and essentially turns you into a mindless drone over time. The tagline "Be careful what you wish for" would make sense in that context; within the existing one it doesn't.
I know they tried something like that with Simon, but he seemed to be the only kingdom resident affected. I’d have liked to see it on a larger scale, where Asha stumbles upon this whole conspiracy and tries to set the kingdom free. This is why Magnifico starting off as a full-on villain would have been better, imo. It would be similar to the deals merpeople made with Ursula — aaand now I have a vision of people of Rosas oohing and aahing after they get their wishes back.
Brilliant! Maybe the movie should have been like how you said!
You know, everyone says Amaya just leaves her husband and doesn't care he's imprisoned in the end. I think she was already a bit intimidated by him from the beginning, so she maybe didn't have a happy marriage after all, but if she did, I think that she was hoping he would be redeemed after spending enough time in the dungeon, since the dark magic he used seemed to have stopped (other than the staff trapping him, but was that actually good magic? Hm...).
Vlad wrote: ↑Fri Dec 08, 2023 5:27 am
Farerb wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 12:57 pm
:lol: :lol: :lol: They've come such a long way. I'm really proud of them, lol :lol: :lol:
Haha! Both of you are funny! XD
Esmeralda and Asha are a few of Disneys characters who are more selfless, but while Asha wants generic justice and everyones Wish to come true with no personal struggle or attachment to her goal, Esmeralda wants justice for all who are treated unfairly based on how they look or as they are part of a minority group, as she knows how it feels. Esmeralda is also part of the group that is oppressed by Frollo and she still sees herself not as the victim as she sings that there are people "less lucky than I" like Quasi . It also makes sense how Esmeralda is so attached to him and how she doesnt judge him by his looks, as she KNOWS how it feels to be labled as an outcast alongside her community so theyre on the same boat. Thats why she hates Frollo, because he is a threat to her (community and friends) and all she loves and knows as he wants to get rid of them. Thats what makes him evil, not because he doesnt grant every Single Parisian citizen what they want. In GHTO Esmeraldas song is a cry for help, because she Literally points out whats so problematic to her, as her people and others like Quasi get treated with no mercy just because they are outcasts and it is in contrast to what other people sing about: 
