Moana

[DisneyEra]

Rapunzel/Moana

[Disney's Divinity]

I agree. I thought the "ocean as a character" aspect they were talking about would be much more subtle and abstract than this. Now it looks like a gooey alien blob raising its eyebrow. It's just goofy, unnecessary and not very believable. It kind of reminds me of Rapunzel's sentient hair idea in that first trailer that was eventually scrapped.

This is what I thought, too. I thought it would be little things, like the water pushing her back to shore if she gets too far out and could drown, or moving aside if she were surfing, etc. I didn't think there'd be hands and faces in the water....

[DisneyEra]

A new Moana trailer, new nitpicking...

[Disney Duster]

I think "The Rock" character is ugly. But Moana is very beautiful.

I thought the water as a character was actually really cool and nice. Maybe it's because I read you guys hating it first and I lowered my expectations, or maybe it's because I didn't read anything about it being a character beforehand because I'm not in this thread much.

I thought they meant by "the ocean being a character" was in the same mold as the settings/locations becomes "characterized", as for example the forest in "Bambi", the Cathedral in "Hunchback", the Savannah in "The Lion King" and so on.

What do you mean? The only way I can think of any of those places being characterized is "Little April Shower".

[kiseki]

Baby Moana has nipples, but not Maui?

[Sotiris]

^But he does have nipples. They're just obscured by the tattoos.

Exhibit A: Maui's left nip.

[DisneyFan09]

What do you mean? The only way I can think of any of those places being characterized is "Little April Shower".

What I meant is that the locations are labeled as "characters" due to them having depth and presence. If you've read or heard commentaries from the creators, they have a tendency to label locations as characters.

[disneyprincess11]

So, it turns out that baby Moana might be a deleted scene. This is from details of the movie (actually by Prince Kido[/b)]:

SPOILERS

Moana is revealed to be a girl of 16 years very cute with her pretty hair frisotée (yeah, do not forget that I am crazy least hair movements and blinking eyelashes and I really enjoyed myself in this case with this new princess ...) and "badass" at will when she pulls no dead hand giving strokes away in the face or throwing spears to save his stupid cock.
For small animals and dear fellow Disney are there, but it seems that the little pig of the beautiful overview of promotional activities during the presentation is not part of the adventure, definitely staying ashore before his mistress to leave at sea to honor the promise made to his grandmother restorer heart (a kind of turquoise green toilet tablet ...) of the goddess Te Fiti, mother of all the islands, had stolen the egocentric Maui demigod who she will team and one of whose tattoos acts of conscience like a Jiminy Cricket.
This is where lies the strength of the film also like many of Disney in recent years: an unlikely duo bound by events and that is sure to salt the views excerpts comparing two personalities not entirely smooth or morally irreproachable.
We understand then that the two heroes gathered will have to face pirates minis coconut head, Kakamoras in a fight worthy of Mad Max (dixit reals), a giant crustacean, an underwater world and a lava nasty, Maui rival.
2 scenes were especially struck me: one where Moana discovers the hidden boat at the bottom of a cave and typing in a drum, has a vision of his ancestors who once sailed freely, and one that does not appear in the film where a small Moana 2-3 years discovers the ocean for the first time revealing a unique link with it since it interacts with the small very poetic and touching way, all on sumptuous visuals and notes melancholic borrowed under "Loimata e Maligi" of Opeteia Foa'i I listen for a loop.
In conclusion, Moana (or Vaiana) looks like being a very nice folk at Disney wish and certainly keep all its promises of adventure and sunny dreams.
However, it also reveals a little less original than was Zootopie by its current tone resonates with our company and problems of acceptance and integration of different people.

https://translate.google.com/translate? ... embre-2016

[unprincess]

thats some crazy translation there.

and "badass" at will when she pulls no dead hand giving strokes away in the face or throwing spears to save his stupid cock.

I hope she's talking about the rooster.

[Disney Analysis]

thats some crazy translation there.

and "badass" at will when she pulls no dead hand giving strokes away in the face or throwing spears to save his stupid cock.

I hope she's talking about the rooster.

He (not she ^^) talks about Moana when she saves Hei Hei the rooster.

[disneyprincess11]

Disney Anaylsis, where is your description of the opening scene? I can't find it on Disney Central.

[DisneyEra]

Disney has really been pushing this since 2012's Wreck-It Ralph & Brave. I mean, they've been doing this for years so why keep announcing this with every new feature

[D82]

Disney Anaylsis, where is your description of the opening scene? I can't find it on Disney Central.

Here's Disney Analysis description (you have to click on the spoiler to read it): http://disneycentralplaza.englishboard. ... 16#2977545


And here's another description of the same footage, but from the Comic-Con presentation. Only the first 3 minutes of the film were shown this time:

Moana opens with 2D animation that resembles the art style seen in pacific islander tattoos, like those seen on the character of Maui. A female voiceover begins to tell us of the creation of the world and the creation of the first island in Oceania. This "Mother Island," Te Fiki (we hope we're spelling that right), is what created life in the world. However, the heart of Te Fiki was desired by some, in order to gain the power of creation. Then, a demigod comes along to try and take the heart of Te Fiki. This is Maui, the character voiced by Dwayne Johnson. He appears, sailing in an outrigger boat, but then transforms into a bird and flies to the island. It's at this point that the animation changes from the tattoo art style to traditional computer animation. Maui arrives at the island, transforming into other creatures in order to navigate the jungle before coming upon the heart of the island, in the form of a small jewel. Maui uses his magic fish hook to pry the jewel free. However, doing this gives birth to a darkness, a cloud which begins to envelop the island and chases Maui away and back to his boat. His troubles are not over, however, as he's then approached from the other side by a demon who wants the heart for himself. The two begin to clash but Maui is defeated and his magical fish hook, and the heart of Te Fiki, are lost to the ocean. As the clip ends, we see that an old woman is telling this story to a group of toddlers, and one them, Moana, is absolutely mesmerized by the story.

We were then given a brief synopsis of what follows this. Moana, now older, discovers that she comes from a long line of navigators, which explains the pull to the sea that she's been feeling. She goes in search for Maui, in order to return the heart of Te Fiki and set order right again. Following this, we were shown a brief sequence where Moana and Maui meet each other for the first time. It's here where we see why The Rock was chosen to bring Maui to life. The character is very full of himself. He automatically assumes that Moana is excited to meet him, going as far as to autograph a boat paddle with the beak of a chicken. He is absolutely taken aback when he realizes that Moana is thoroughly unimpressed by him.

Source: http://www.cinemablend.com/news/1536889 ... at-happens


Here's also a live blog report of the Moana panel: https://ohmy.disney.com/news/2016/07/21 ... live-blog/


It seems that the clips were the same shown at Annecy and not much new info was revealed. One question: Why aren't Chris Williams and Don Hall, the recently named co-directors of Moana, promoting the film alongside John Musker and Ron Clements?

[disneyprincess11]

Wow! This movie sounds magnificent!

[kiseki]

^But he does have nipples. They're just obscured by the tattoos.

They're quite hard to see indeed!

[disneyprincess11]

It is absolutely interesting how the opening has changed in a year

2015:

-"We Know the Way" is about the birth of Moana and the villagers celebrates her birth, which was the opening.
-This transitions to the baby Moana scene and 16 year old Moana

2016:

-The opening is the legend of Maui and why the ocean is the way it is
-We see little Moana now as a kid
-It sounds like baby Moana has been deleted from the film (At least, Disney generously released the scene)
-"We Know the Way" is now moved to Moana's vision

[D82]

I had forgotten the opening was different before. The new one actually seems a more interesting way to open the film.

-It sounds like baby Moana has been deleted from the film (At least, Disney generously released the scene)

She still is in the film according to the last report I posted:

As the clip ends, we see that an old woman is telling this story to a group of toddlers, and one them, Moana, is absolutely mesmerized by the story.

It's a bit strange that they are showing the scene with Moana and the water at every event and in the Japanese trailer when it won't be in the film. Maybe they decided to not show the ocean as a character so literally and that's why the scene was scrapped.


More from Comic-Con:

The One Joke Moana's Director Still Wants To Get In The Movie
http://www.cinemablend.com/news/1536950 ... -the-movie

One Huge Challenge The Rock's Character Created For Moana And Its Animators
http://www.cinemablend.com/news/1536920 ... -animators

Disney’s Moana won't have a love interest in the film | Comic-con Interview
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYXtmpk0se8

[disneyprincess11]

-It sounds like baby Moana has been deleted from the film (At least, Disney generously released the scene)

She still is in the film according to the last report I posted:

As the clip ends, we see that an old woman is telling this story to a group of toddlers, and one them, Moana, is absolutely mesmerized by the story.

Disney Analysis, can you clarify if toddler Moana is the baby Moana we saw in the trailer or is she a little girl?

[Disney Analysis]

She still is in the film according to the last report I posted:

Disney Analysis, can you clarify if toddler Moana is the baby Moana we saw in the trailer or is she a little girl?

Baby Moana as she appears in the japanese teaser.

[disneyprincess11]

Awesome! So glad the scene is probably still in the movie!