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I agree with you. The queen kills without any kind of remorse. In the animated one she even tries to kill the dwarfs. Killing fo her seems to be something really ordinary. I think that they didn't want her to be so cruel in the LA but that's part of her personality.Disney's Divinity wrote: โMon Mar 31, 2025 11:45 am I was actually going to say something along the lines of farerb the last post I made, but must've got distracted and forgot the point in the midst of everything else I was writing. It's interesting that the remake has the plot Walt originally intended of the Prince being imprisoned and fighting to escape the dungeon here. I liked that they had him meet the Huntsman there, too... Although, well, for me the Queen was always a different sort of villain from other Disney villains. She always came across much more bloodthirsty and without any redeeming features at all, part f the reason why I had liked how they made her crown sort of Sauron-esque here like some Dark Lord type. So it's hard to believe the Prince or the Huntsman would still be alive if captured by the Queen, tbh... She's not like Maleficent or Ursula, who revel in the misery they cause.
I know she does curse SW rather than outright killing her, but that's because she liked the idea of her being "buried alive," that she would be killed by the Dwarfs unintentionally. She couldn't have expected them to keep her in the glass coffin.
The difference is that the conflict is something that directly affects Gadot. It's personal to her. The conflict does not affect Zegler. It has nothing to do with her. That's why the average person is more sympathetic to Gadot's position who focused on the humanitarian aspect of it. More importantly, Zegler brought up the conflict while promoting the film and comingled the two in her infamous tweets. Gadot did no such thing. The level of culpability is not the same.Thumper_93 wrote: โWed Mar 26, 2025 12:25 pmThe conflict that is happening is a war and in wars there's always 2 sides. People also complain about Gal's position but it seems that it's more easy to judge only Rachel. They are both guilty. Not only Rachel.
When you go out of your way to give thanks to everyone else you worked with except your co-star, you're clearly trying to send a message and fan the flames of hatred. It's typical passive-aggresive behavior. Gadot may not have posted pictures with Rachel on her social media accounts, but she didn't post of anyone else either. She never attempted to throw shade at Zegler like Zegler had done by excluding her from the acknowledgments of the cast and crew or deliberately cropping her out of photos she had taken with her. Gadot never made any disrespectful or dismissive remarks towards Zegler unlike her who called Gadot "a professional pageant queen". It's no surprise that Gadot was the one who required additional security during this whole ordeal and not Zegler.Thumper_93 wrote: โWed Apr 02, 2025 5:19 amI don't know why there's this obsession about Rachel doesn't giving her thanks or a recognition to Gal. They are work partners with different ideas and they don't have a good relationship. Why does she has to spend time giving her thanks or posting something about someone who she doesn't like? Gal neither has any picture with Rachel and nobody is criticizing her for it.
I respect your opinion but I don't agree with you. Rachel is not the only star that supports Palestine without having any kind of conection with these people. She has the same rights to give her opinions as many others. We can agree that it was not the right way to do it but honestly is not fair to make her guilty of all the problems that the movie had.Sotiris wrote: โWed Apr 02, 2025 3:22 pmThe difference is that the conflict is something that directly affects Gadot. It's personal to her. The conflict does not affect Zegler. It has nothing to do with her. That's why the average person is more sympathetic to Gadot's position who focused on the humanitarian aspect of it. More importantly, Zegler brought up the conflict while promoting the film and comingled the two in her infamous tweets. Gadot did no such thing. The level of culpability is not the same.Thumper_93 wrote: โWed Mar 26, 2025 12:25 pmThe conflict that is happening is a war and in wars there's always 2 sides. People also complain about Gal's position but it seems that it's more easy to judge only Rachel. They are both guilty. Not only Rachel.
When you go out of your way to give thanks to everyone else you worked with except your co-star, you're clearly trying to send a message and fan the flames of hatred. It's typical passive-aggresive behavior. Gadot may not have posted pictures with Rachel on her social media accounts, but she didn't post of anyone else either. She never attempted to throw shade at Zegler like Zegler had done by excluding her from the acknowledgments of the cast and crew or deliberately cropping her out of photos she had taken with her. Gadot never made any disrespectful or dismissive remarks towards Zegler unlike her who called Gadot "a professional pageant queen". It's no surprise that Gadot was the one who required additional security during this whole ordeal and not Zegler.Thumper_93 wrote: โWed Apr 02, 2025 5:19 amI don't know why there's this obsession about Rachel doesn't giving her thanks or a recognition to Gal. They are work partners with different ideas and they don't have a good relationship. Why does she has to spend time giving her thanks or posting something about someone who she doesn't like? Gal neither has any picture with Rachel and nobody is criticizing her for it.
I half-agree with this. I think the majority of the angry frat bros who "boycotted" Snow White weren't exactly in the audience that went to see LA Beauty and the Beast, but I also think that the "woke" factor is a little more intricate than that. A faction of the liberal audience went for things like "Empowered" Aurora & Jasmine, but withheld from Ariel and Snow White, and I think it's worth mulling over why that is.From the point where Latina actress Rachel Zegler was announced as the lead in Snow White, the film was accused of being โwoke,โ leading many to decide years ago they were going to skip the film. Some have suggested thatโs the reason the movie didnโt become a box office smash, but David A. Gross of movie consultancy FranchiseRe recently told Business Insider the reasons for the movieโs lack of success are far more mundane. He explainedโฆ
The movie isn't completely satisfying to the audiences who are attending. That, also, has nothing to do with woke. The movie simply isn't connecting creatively on the level of a big Disney hit.
Gross says that the mixed reviews for Snow White are more to blame than the movieโs perceived โwokeness.โ While some have blamed Rachel Zegler herself for the film's failure, actual critics have generally seen the movie as simply insubstantial. Zegler has generally been receiving positive responses for her performance, making her casting seem like one of the best aspects of the movie.
These comments fall in line with a report from Deadline that compared the live-action remake's opening weekend numbers to other films and broke the numbers down by โredโ states and โblueโ states. It found that โredโ state moviegoers actually saw Snow White in slightly higher percentages than other family and animated movies, certainly indicating those viewers were not staying away from the movie in unusual numbers.
Really? I get that youโre a little biased because of your picture, but Jesus Christ! Youโre even contradicting yourself, because surely the IMDb rating which is one of the most absurd things Iโve ever seen in my life, not to mention how absurd and psychotic it is for people to actually listen to them, itโs definitely not how you feel, because you say that itโs not as bad as other remake and it actually has some things you care about, EH?Vlad wrote: โWed Apr 09, 2025 11:53 am I think the live-action Beauty and the Beast was far better than this one. As for Aurora and Jasmine...back when Maleficent came out, I thought Aurora was very nicely portrayed, but the essence of the character was there (they didn't change her personality), and Jasmine was already pretty empowered in the animation, they just went even further in the live-action.
In my eyes, Snow White is almost as bad as Pinocchio and Peter Pan & Wendy. What saves it are Gal Gadot and the CGI animals. And I don't hate it because it's woke. I hate it, because it's a really bad movie. The current rating it has on IMDb is well deserved, in my opinion.
But you just said โitโs Rating on IMDb is well deservedโ?Vlad wrote: โThu Apr 10, 2025 3:32 am Dude, calm down!I refuse to believe you're getting this worked up because of a movie. I did say that it was saved by two elements, that's why I said it was almost as bad as those two. I even mentioned I went to see the movie with an open mind, because I really wanted to give it a chance, even if I love the animated movie. But what can I say? It didn't impress me. As for my rating, I gave it a 4/10, so mine is not even close to what most users on IMDb gave it.