Snow White (Live-Action)

[Sotiris]

These Snow White remake parodies are hilarious!

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/U6oGXuDnhrg
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Znt4cMWN858

[Disney Duster]

^ Loved those, so funny!

[Disney's Divinity]

I was actually going to say something along the lines of farerb the last post I made, but must've got distracted and forgot the point in the midst of everything else I was writing. It's interesting that the remake has the plot Walt originally intended of the Prince being imprisoned and fighting to escape the dungeon here. I liked that they had him meet the Huntsman there, too... Although, well, for me the Queen was always a different sort of villain from other Disney villains. She always came across much more bloodthirsty and without any redeeming features at all, part f the reason why I had liked how they made her crown sort of Sauron-esque here like some Dark Lord type. So it's hard to believe the Prince or the Huntsman would still be alive if captured by the Queen, tbh... She's not like Maleficent or Ursula, who revel in the misery they cause.

I know she does curse SW rather than outright killing her, but that's because she liked the idea of her being "buried alive," that she would be killed by the Dwarfs unintentionally. She couldn't have expected them to keep her in the glass coffin.

[Thumper_93]

I was actually going to say something along the lines of farerb the last post I made, but must've got distracted and forgot the point in the midst of everything else I was writing. It's interesting that the remake has the plot Walt originally intended of the Prince being imprisoned and fighting to escape the dungeon here. I liked that they had him meet the Huntsman there, too... Although, well, for me the Queen was always a different sort of villain from other Disney villains. She always came across much more bloodthirsty and without any redeeming features at all, part f the reason why I had liked how they made her crown sort of Sauron-esque here like some Dark Lord type. So it's hard to believe the Prince or the Huntsman would still be alive if captured by the Queen, tbh... She's not like Maleficent or Ursula, who revel in the misery they cause.

I know she does curse SW rather than outright killing her, but that's because she liked the idea of her being "buried alive," that she would be killed by the Dwarfs unintentionally. She couldn't have expected them to keep her in the glass coffin.

I agree with you. The queen kills without any kind of remorse. In the animated one she even tries to kill the dwarfs. Killing fo her seems to be something really ordinary. I think that they didn't want her to be so cruel in the LA but that's part of her personality.

[Disney Duster]

I know that people can pick and choose interviews to make people seem like they only said some good things or only said some bad things, but I wonder if this video sums up Zegler v. the other princess actresses: The difference in how the live action Disney Princesses speak about their characters

I will say, I remember Lily James saying something like "the prince doesn't just sweep her off her feet [in the live-action version of Cinderella], it's more of an equal meeting".

[Farerb]

At least young Snow White had the decency to thank her co-star (unlike another actress who decided to disingenuously thank everyone just to be passive aggressive). Hopefully she has a promising career:

https://www.instagram.com/p/DHaE5ycNjQk ... QzbDR2eTZn

[Thumper_93]

I don't know why there's this obsession about Rachel doesn't giving her thanks or a recognition to Gal. They are work partners with different ideas and they don't have a good relationship. Why does she has to spend time giving her thanks or posting something about someone who she doesn't like? Gal neither has any picture with Rachel and nobody is critizicing her for it.

[Sotiris]

The conflict that is happening is a war and in wars there's always 2 sides. People also complain about Gal's position but it seems that it's more easy to judge only Rachel. They are both guilty. Not only Rachel.

The difference is that the conflict is something that directly affects Gadot. It's personal to her. The conflict does not affect Zegler. It has nothing to do with her. That's why the average person is more sympathetic to Gadot's position who focused on the humanitarian aspect of it. More importantly, Zegler brought up the conflict while promoting the film and comingled the two in her infamous tweets. Gadot did no such thing. The level of culpability is not the same.

I don't know why there's this obsession about Rachel doesn't giving her thanks or a recognition to Gal. They are work partners with different ideas and they don't have a good relationship. Why does she has to spend time giving her thanks or posting something about someone who she doesn't like? Gal neither has any picture with Rachel and nobody is criticizing her for it.

When you go out of your way to give thanks to everyone else you worked with except your co-star, you're clearly trying to send a message and fan the flames of hatred. It's typical passive-aggresive behavior. Gadot may not have posted pictures with Rachel on her social media accounts, but she didn't post of anyone else either. She never attempted to throw shade at Zegler like Zegler had done by excluding her from the acknowledgments of the cast and crew or deliberately cropping her out of photos she had taken with her. Gadot never made any disrespectful or dismissive remarks towards Zegler unlike her who called Gadot "a professional pageant queen". It's no surprise that Gadot was the one who required additional security during this whole ordeal and not Zegler.

[DisneyFan09]

I finally saw the movie today. And frankly, I must say that I liked it. It was cute and endearing enough. Rachel Zegler was actually pretty good as Snow White. Despite being a little stiff and wooden, she still managed to convey charm, appeal and warmth to her part. Andrew Burnap was a pleasant surprise. Despite how he`s bland and lacks charisma, he still managed to be appealing enough on his own right. Gal Gadot as the Queen was campy, hammy and essentially just as over the top as most reviewers said (despite how there were parts where she shined). As for the dwarfs, Dopey was the one who stole the show (as he did in Walt`s version) and frankly the most appealing of the dwarfs (despite how giving him a voice felt contrived and shoehorned in).
Out of the new songs, I liked Good Things Grow, Waiting on a Wish (which actually sounds a little bit of This Wish from Wish) and Princess Problems. All Is Fair was bland and generic and A Hand Meets A Hand had it`s moments, but was just okay. But frankly, none of the new songs sounded in tune with the original songs. As for the rest of the movie, the storybook opening and closing was cute. The village reminded me of Rodgers and Hammersteins Cinderella (yes, Disney`s version) and also of Disenchanted. But it was disappointing how The Silly Song was barely played, as it barely lasted a minute. Heigh Ho was a visual and emotional hightlight. As for other favorite scenes, I liked the fight at the forest. Snow White`s escape to the scary parts of the forest was well done. However, some of the pivotal scenes from the original were too rushed. Frankly, it was mandatory that the screenplay was updated to make Snow White more feminist. And to make it more woke by having people of color in the village. But still the final showdown between Snow White and the Queen was disappointingly sparse. Also the Hag was disappointingly bland and not particularly scary. But overall, it was a cute and appealing remake.

[Thumper_93]

The conflict that is happening is a war and in wars there's always 2 sides. People also complain about Gal's position but it seems that it's more easy to judge only Rachel. They are both guilty. Not only Rachel.

The difference is that the conflict is something that directly affects Gadot. It's personal to her. The conflict does not affect Zegler. It has nothing to do with her. That's why the average person is more sympathetic to Gadot's position who focused on the humanitarian aspect of it. More importantly, Zegler brought up the conflict while promoting the film and comingled the two in her infamous tweets. Gadot did no such thing. The level of culpability is not the same.

I don't know why there's this obsession about Rachel doesn't giving her thanks or a recognition to Gal. They are work partners with different ideas and they don't have a good relationship. Why does she has to spend time giving her thanks or posting something about someone who she doesn't like? Gal neither has any picture with Rachel and nobody is criticizing her for it.

When you go out of your way to give thanks to everyone else you worked with except your co-star, you're clearly trying to send a message and fan the flames of hatred. It's typical passive-aggresive behavior. Gadot may not have posted pictures with Rachel on her social media accounts, but she didn't post of anyone else either. She never attempted to throw shade at Zegler like Zegler had done by excluding her from the acknowledgments of the cast and crew or deliberately cropping her out of photos she had taken with her. Gadot never made any disrespectful or dismissive remarks towards Zegler unlike her who called Gadot "a professional pageant queen". It's no surprise that Gadot was the one who required additional security during this whole ordeal and not Zegler.

I respect your opinion but I don't agree with you. Rachel is not the only star that supports Palestine without having any kind of conection with these people. She has the same rights to give her opinions as many others. We can agree that it was not the right way to do it but honestly is not fair to make her guilty of all the problems that the movie had.
About not giving thanks to Gal I'm still having the same opinion. She doesn't like her and posting something saying how great was working with wouldn't be sincere. It can seem rude for some people but at least she didn't say anything that she doesn't feel or think.

[The Disneynerd]

https://youtu.be/x0nSFVT-hs0?si=6qk3aV5VHkLkcc_B
Snow White pitch meeting

[Vlad]

I was thinking today of how Rachel said that Snow White is not going to be saved by the prince in the remake. Not only did it happen, but it happened twice.

[PatchofBlue]

Amid Snow White’s Box Office Struggles, An Analyst Responds To Claims The Film Is Flopping Because It’s ‘Woke'
https://www.msn.com/en-us/movies/news/a ... 2f82&ei=17

(The story itself links to an article by Business Insider, but I don't have room in my subscription bank for that one right now)

From the point where Latina actress Rachel Zegler was announced as the lead in Snow White, the film was accused of being “woke,” leading many to decide years ago they were going to skip the film. Some have suggested that’s the reason the movie didn’t become a box office smash, but David A. Gross of movie consultancy FranchiseRe recently told Business Insider the reasons for the movie’s lack of success are far more mundane. He explained…

The movie isn't completely satisfying to the audiences who are attending. That, also, has nothing to do with woke. The movie simply isn't connecting creatively on the level of a big Disney hit.

Gross says that the mixed reviews for Snow White are more to blame than the movie’s perceived “wokeness.” While some have blamed Rachel Zegler herself for the film's failure, actual critics have generally seen the movie as simply insubstantial. Zegler has generally been receiving positive responses for her performance, making her casting seem like one of the best aspects of the movie.

These comments fall in line with a report from Deadline that compared the live-action remake's opening weekend numbers to other films and broke the numbers down by “red” states and “blue” states. It found that “red” state moviegoers actually saw Snow White in slightly higher percentages than other family and animated movies, certainly indicating those viewers were not staying away from the movie in unusual numbers.

I half-agree with this. I think the majority of the angry frat bros who "boycotted" Snow White weren't exactly in the audience that went to see LA Beauty and the Beast, but I also think that the "woke" factor is a little more intricate than that. A faction of the liberal audience went for things like "Empowered" Aurora & Jasmine, but withheld from Ariel and Snow White, and I think it's worth mulling over why that is.

My personal bias also probably factors into this a little bit. I didn't think the film itself was remarkably better or worse than LA Beauty and the Beast, and so for only one of these movies to receive mixed reviews, it leaves me with some questions ...

[Vlad]

I think the live-action Beauty and the Beast was far better than this one. As for Aurora and Jasmine...back when Maleficent came out, I thought Aurora was very nicely portrayed, but the essence of the character was there (they didn't change her personality), and Jasmine was already pretty empowered in the animation, they just went even further in the live-action.

In my eyes, Snow White is almost as bad as Pinocchio and Peter Pan & Wendy. What saves it are Gal Gadot and the CGI animals. And I don't hate it because it's woke. I hate it, because it's a really bad movie. The current rating it has on IMDb is well deserved, in my opinion.

[Farerb]

Beauty and the Beast had better production values, better costumes and better music even if Rachel Zegler is a better singer than Emma Watson, but both of them didn't feel like the original characters and both were miscast (to me at least). While I wouldn't call Beauty and the Beast the worst remake, it was definitely the most frustrating to me because I did see the potential but they made so many odd choices with the characters and the story changes/additions, but I agree that it's probably technically better than Snow White.

[Disney's Divinity]

I liked both B&tB and SW, but I did think B&tB was much better. I think that's partly because the B&tB remake was more like its original than the SW remake was, and partly because I generally think B&tB's story and songs are better than SW (regardless of whether we're talking about remakes or originals).

[Patricier21]

I think the live-action Beauty and the Beast was far better than this one. As for Aurora and Jasmine...back when Maleficent came out, I thought Aurora was very nicely portrayed, but the essence of the character was there (they didn't change her personality), and Jasmine was already pretty empowered in the animation, they just went even further in the live-action.

In my eyes, Snow White is almost as bad as Pinocchio and Peter Pan & Wendy. What saves it are Gal Gadot and the CGI animals. And I don't hate it because it's woke. I hate it, because it's a really bad movie. The current rating it has on IMDb is well deserved, in my opinion.

Really? I get that you’re a little biased because of your picture, but Jesus Christ! You’re even contradicting yourself, because surely the IMDb rating which is one of the most absurd things I’ve ever seen in my life, not to mention how absurd and psychotic it is for people to actually listen to them, it’s definitely not how you feel, because you say that it’s not as bad as other remake and it actually has some things you care about, EH?

For the record, my mom Who actually didn’t like one of the remakes you said as well,and at least one other person that I’ve heard of, Or consider wicked to be way more deserving of that rating (which it is) than this. This actually tried it was actually charming, and enjoyable even ignored completely all there. Wicked it’s honestly one of the worst movies I’ve ever seen, and again I normally love these kinds of movies, And quite like the world of Oz.

[Vlad]

Dude, calm down! I refuse to believe you're getting this worked up because of a movie. I did say that it was saved by two elements, that's why I said it was almost as bad as those two. I even mentioned I went to see the movie with an open mind, because I really wanted to give it a chance, even if I love the animated movie. But what can I say? It didn't impress me. As for my rating, I gave it a 4/10, so mine is not even close to what most users on IMDb gave it.

[Patricier21]

Dude, calm down! I refuse to believe you're getting this worked up because of a movie. I did say that it was saved by two elements, that's why I said it was almost as bad as those two. I even mentioned I went to see the movie with an open mind, because I really wanted to give it a chance, even if I love the animated movie. But what can I say? It didn't impress me. As for my rating, I gave it a 4/10, so mine is not even close to what most users on IMDb gave it.

But you just said “it’s Rating on IMDb is well deserved”?

[Vlad]

It is well deserved, because it's a bad movie. I gave it my rating, but I don't disagree with the one the audience gave it. I read some of the reviews that people wrote over there, and they even had the same points I had, but they gave the movie a lower score.