Oscar for Best Animated Feature 2021
Re: Oscar for Best Animated Feature 2021
‘The Mitchells Vs. The Machines’ Twitter Account Reacts To The Academy’s Disrespect Of Animation
https://www.cartoonbrew.com/feature-fil ... 14551.html
https://www.cartoonbrew.com/feature-fil ... 14551.html
- bruno_wbt
- Anniversary Edition
- Posts: 1199
- Joined: Sat May 06, 2006 10:22 am
- Location: Under the Sea
- Contact:
Re: Oscar for Best Animated Feature 2021
This moment was everything!

It's our "No way home" moment!


It's our "No way home" moment!




Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/disneytweedles/
Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/user/MariahCarey2/
Re: Oscar for Best Animated Feature 2021
Here's a video of the presentation if anyone wants to check it out. Personally, I didn't have a problem with what they said because it's true little kids like to watch the same movies over and over and it's true parents tend to find that annoying. Plus, this is nothing new, from what I remember they treat it as a children's category every year. Watch last year's intro, for example. That said, I understand the backlash from animation fans and I agree they should treat the category with more respect. Regarding the fact they were promoting the remake of The Little Mermaid, they do that all the time and not just for Disney movies, so I don't have an issue with it either, but it's true that this year they went a bit too far as far as self-promotion goes by including the "We Don't Talk About Bruno" performance in the show.Farerb wrote:I wasn't watching live, but now catching up with some announcements on YouTube, and the presentation for Best Animated Feature was basically three live action Disney Princesses saying that animated films are for kids and joke about how parents have to endure and suffer rewatching them all the time.
I found it quite entertaining too. The only boring thing was that the winners were quite predictable. Only one category was not won by the favorite candidate; Best Animated Short.Disney's Divinity wrote:Anyway, I wouldn't say the show was a trainwreck. I'd say it was one of the best they've had in years. Schumer, Sykes, and Hall need to come back again next year, they were awesome.
That made me realize they finally didn't have any "No way home" moment, as was rumored. Not even Tom Holland presenting an award.bruno_wbt wrote:It's our "No way home" moment!![]()
![]()
Re: Oscar for Best Animated Feature 2021
I would have rather seen the animated short and the score Oscar presented live, the fact that they were announced via tweets is ridiculous. That whole ceremony was an absolute disgrace and embarrassment to the art of film.
- Disney's Divinity
- Ultimate Collector's Edition
- Posts: 16239
- Joined: Thu Mar 17, 2005 9:26 am
- Gender: Male
Re: Oscar for Best Animated Feature 2021
Oh, really? I don't really follow the bets on what will win, so didn't know what was favored in a lot of cases.D82 wrote: I found it quite entertaining too. The only boring thing was that the winners were quite predictable. Only one category was not won by the favorite candidate; Best Animated Short.
The show's ratings were 56% higher this year, I'd read. That's what great hosts can do for a show!


Listening to most often lately:
Taylor Swift ~ ~ "The Fate of Ophelia"
Taylor Swift ~ "Eldest Daughter"
Taylor Swift ~ "CANCELLED!"
Re: Oscar for Best Animated Feature 2021
The ratings surge wasn't thanks to the hosts, it was because of the slap. The overall ratings for a 4 hour event are calculated by calculating the average of the four hours. This graph presents the number of viewers throughout the event:

And even with the surge, it's still the ceremony with the second lowest ratings.

And even with the surge, it's still the ceremony with the second lowest ratings.
- Disney's Divinity
- Ultimate Collector's Edition
- Posts: 16239
- Joined: Thu Mar 17, 2005 9:26 am
- Gender: Male
Re: Oscar for Best Animated Feature 2021
More viewers always come in at the end when the final categories are being announced rather than sitting through three hours. There are a large crowd who are only interested in seeing who won the last three (Best Actress, Best Actor, Best Picture).
I know conservatives prefer their "lowest-rated show" headlines, but everyone knows TV in general is suffering viewer erosion thanks to streaming. I remember talking about that in the OUAT thread a few days back, actually, how the shows that are considered the "best" ratings-wise today are only hitting ratings older shows were often cancelled for having. Making a 1.0 in the demo seems a struggle for almost any show these days, so it's quite an achievement for them to have seen a rise at all and I believe the great hosts do deserve credit for that.
I know conservatives prefer their "lowest-rated show" headlines, but everyone knows TV in general is suffering viewer erosion thanks to streaming. I remember talking about that in the OUAT thread a few days back, actually, how the shows that are considered the "best" ratings-wise today are only hitting ratings older shows were often cancelled for having. Making a 1.0 in the demo seems a struggle for almost any show these days, so it's quite an achievement for them to have seen a rise at all and I believe the great hosts do deserve credit for that.


Listening to most often lately:
Taylor Swift ~ ~ "The Fate of Ophelia"
Taylor Swift ~ "Eldest Daughter"
Taylor Swift ~ "CANCELLED!"
Re: Oscar for Best Animated Feature 2021
Yeah, I didn't like that either. All the categories should've been presented live. I wish there had been a stronger backlash and ABC would've been forced to abandon the idea. Now that they've done it and nobody seems to have complained afterwards, they'll do it every year. And maybe they exclude even more categories from the live show in the future, like the BAFTA Awards do, since it seems they've copied the idea from them.Farerb wrote:I would have rather seen the animated short and the score Oscar presented live, the fact that they were announced via tweets is ridiculous.
Well, I guess it wasn't predictable for the general audience; just for those who follow these things. And to be fair, though the favorites in each category won, some important ones (like Best Original and Adapted Screenplay or Best Actress) weren't completely locked, so it was still interesting to see if the favorites actually got the award or not, as was seeing if CODA could actually win Best Picture having just three nominations, which I think had never happened before or at least not in a long time. Anyway, I don't normally have an issue with the awards being predictable if I find the winners deserving. I guess my real issue was that I was a bit disappointed with some of the choices, especially Best Picture, as I think The Power of the Dog was a superior film. But I really liked CODA too, and its win was very important for deaf actors and the deaf community in general, so in that regard I'm happy for its victory.Disney's Divinity wrote:Oh, really? I don't really follow the bets on what will win, so didn't know what was favored in a lot of cases.
Regarding the ratings, I agree about them being lower nowadays in general and it's true that many people just tune in at the end to watch the big awards of the night, but there's a big peak just after Will Smith's incident in the graph, so I think it must've had some effect on the ratings as well, at least in that portion of the show. But how would that have happened? Did people learn about it on social media and turned the TV on to see it for themselves?
- blackcauldron85
- Ultimate Collector's Edition
- Posts: 16689
- Joined: Sat Jun 17, 2006 7:54 am
- Gender: Female
- Contact:
Re: Oscar for Best Animated Feature 2021
The next time Disney or Pixar are nominated for Best Animated Short, we'll see if they televise that category...D82 wrote:All the categories should've been presented live. I wish there had been a stronger backlash and ABC would've been forced to abandon the idea. Now that they've done it and nobody seems to have complained afterwards, they'll do it every year. And maybe they exclude even more categories from the live show in the future


Re: Oscar for Best Animated Feature 2021
According to this article, a lot of Academy members voiced their disapproval of it after the show aired.D82 wrote:Yeah, I didn't like that either. All the categories should've been presented live. I wish there had been a stronger backlash and ABC would've been forced to abandon the idea. Now that they've done it and nobody seems to have complained afterwards, they'll do it every year. And maybe they exclude even more categories from the live show in the future, like the BAFTA Awards do, since it seems they've copied the idea from them.Farerb wrote:I would have rather seen the animated short and the score Oscar presented live, the fact that they were announced via tweets is ridiculous.
The producers kept saying the whole reason they did it was to shorten the show and finish it at exactly three hours. However, it still ran well over that length, so that experiment clearly failed. So I don't think they will go back to doing that as it looks like the Academy and ABC peeved off a bunch of talent for no reason.
"There are two wolves and they are always fighting. One is darkness and despair. The other is light and hope. Which wolf wins? Whichever one you feed." - Casey Newton, Tomorrowland
Re: Oscar for Best Animated Feature 2021
Oh, I didn't know that. I'm glad I was wrong about it.
It's true, even with the pre-recorded categories they didn't manage to make the show shorter. I hope you're right and they don't do that again.estefan wrote:The producers kept saying the whole reason they did it was to shorten the show and finish it at exactly three hours. However, it still ran well over that length, so that experiment clearly failed. So I don't think they will go back to doing that as it looks like the Academy and ABC peeved off a bunch of talent for no reason.
Re: Oscar for Best Animated Feature 2021
Phil Lord and Chris Miller: Hollywood Should Elevate, Not Diminish Animation (Guest Column)
https://variety.com/2022/film/news/phil ... 235225442/[The Beauty and the Beast best picture] nomination left "some worried an animated movie might win every year, a sentiment that, in part, led to the creation of the best animated feature award... for some, to keep them from winning the 'real' prize."