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A review of The first 30 minutes of Coco
https://pixarplanet.com/blog/first-30-minutes-coco/
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Without Epcot, There Would Be No “Coco”
http://www.laughingplace.com/w/articles ... t-no-coco/

The Lengths Pixar Went To Keep Coco Respectful To Mexican Culture
https://www.gamespot.com/articles/the-l ... 0-6452915/
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estefan wrote:I think we'll get a better idea for the overall excitement level for Coco when the promotion begins in full force in September, which is when Disney typically starts whipping out the heavy marketing for their Thanksgiving releases.
Well, you may be right. We'll have to wait and see. And speaking of Coco's promotion, today the embargo has been lifted and many articles from the press day, like the ones blackcauldron85 has posted, have been published. Here are some more:

Coco Preview: What We Learned About Disney•Pixar’s November Release
http://www.comingsoon.net/movies/featur ... w#/slide/1

Everything You Need to Know About Pixar’s ‘Coco’
http://collider.com/coco-trivia-pixar/

Lee Unkrich Reveals How ‘Coco’ Went from an American Tale to Pixar’s First All-Latino Cast
http://collider.com/coco-lee-unkrich-interview/

How Pixar’s ‘Coco’ Tears Down Cultural Walls To Tell a Universal Story [Set Visit]
http://www.slashfilm.com/pixar-coco-set-visit/

How ‘Coco’ Was Influenced by ‘John Wick’, ‘Spirited Away,’ and Mexican History
http://www.slashfilm.com/world-of-coco/

From Nightmare to Family: Bringing Skeletons to Life in ‘Coco’
http://www.slashfilm.com/skeletons-in-coco-pixar/

Dante’s Concerto: What’s So Special About the ‘Coco’ Pet Sidekick?
http://www.slashfilm.com/dante-in-coco/

Meet Pepita: Mama Imelda's Fiercely Loyal Spirit Guide in 'Coco'
http://www.pixarpost.com/2017/08/meet-p ... uidel.html

Pixar Post Podcast 057: Sit Down with Coco's Filmmakers - Lee Unkrich, Adrian Molina & Darla K. Anderson
http://www.pixarpost.com/2017/08/podcas ... akers.html

How the Filmmakers Brought Skeletons to Life in Pixar's 'Coco'
http://www.pixarpost.com/2017/08/coco-b ... -life.html

One Shot In ‘Coco’ Has 7 Million Lights – How Pixar Made It Happen
http://pixartimes.com/2017/08/28/one-sh ... it-happen/
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John Ratzenberger Confirmed for “Coco”
http://www.laughingplace.com/w/news/201 ... rmed-coco/

From Nightmare to Family: Bringing Skeletons to Life in ‘Coco’
http://www.slashfilm.com/skeletons-in-coco-pixar/

Coco's Lee Unkrich, Adrian Molina and Darla K. Anderson dish about dia de los muertos, the creative process at Pixar and much more!
http://www.aintitcool.com/node/78439
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For those (not necessarily here) who poo-poo on Pixar for making a Day of the Dead movie so soon after The Book of Life (which I don't agree with, I don't see it as an issue at all; other holidays have numerous movies based on them), there's another movie (by a Mexican animation company) being made:
https://www.facebook.com/diademuertosth ... =2&theater
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‘Coco’ Director Lee Unkrich Doesn’t Understand Why Some People Are ‘Threatened’ By His Film
http://www.cartoonbrew.com/pixar/coco-d ... 53128.html
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blackcauldron85 wrote:For those (not necessarily here) who poo-poo on Pixar for making a Day of the Dead movie so soon after The Book of Life (which I don't agree with, I don't see it as an issue at all; other holidays have numerous movies based on them), there's another movie (by a Mexican animation company) being made:
https://www.facebook.com/diademuertosth ... =2&theater
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‘Coco’ Director Lee Unkrich Doesn’t Understand Why Some People Are ‘Threatened’ By His Film
http://www.cartoonbrew.com/pixar/coco-d ... 53128.html
There are some issues that I can see people having with this film. I don't know all the details but this is what I've gleaned online.

Disney trying to buy the copyright for the Day of the Dead was really off-putting to many people especially those whose heritage involves this holiday. They saw this as Disney only seeing their culture as something to mooch off from and having no respect for it whatsoever. I suppose it would be the equivalent of a country trying to buy the rights to Christmas.

I don't think people have as many issues with this being another film about the Day of the Dead as much as past history of the films bothers them. Apparently Jorge Gutierrez (director of the Book of Life) had been pitching this film to several studious and I think Disney rejected it under the basis that no one who wasn't Mexican would be interested. So it was a passion project that he fought hard to create. Then the second a non-Mexican brought a similar project up, Pixar agreed to greenlight it. Which is another main point of contention that for a film that is based on Mexican culture, a non-Mexican men is in charge of it.
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Adrian Molina, the co-director and credited screenwriter, is Mexican-American. But most people seem to be focusing on Lee Unkrich being the director, even though Molina has been just as active in promoting the film.
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estefan wrote:Adrian Molina, the co-director and credited screenwriter, is Mexican-American. But most people seem to be focusing on Lee Unkrich being the director, even though Molina has been just as active in promoting the film.
That's because Pixar has the bad habit of naming people co-directors when they're really just assistant directors. This is Lee Unkrich's film through and through, the same way Inside Out was Pete Docter's film and not Ronnie del Carmen's. That's why the co-directors aren't credited as such when the films are submitted for Oscar consideration. The fact that Pixar likes to parade people of color and women involved with a film's production for publicity reasons is irrelevant.
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JeanGreyForever wrote: had been pitching this film to several studious and I think Disney rejected it under the basis that no one who wasn't Mexican would be interested.
I mean, it's not wrong. I don't really see this making a big thing in either Europe or Asia, tbh, mostly because for them South/Latin America is just very foreign for them. (And even for USA, whose idea of Latin America is just Mexico, Puerto Rico and Cuba; fuck the rest trying to "steal the spotlight").
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Sotiris wrote:
estefan wrote:Adrian Molina, the co-director and credited screenwriter, is Mexican-American. But most people seem to be focusing on Lee Unkrich being the director, even though Molina has been just as active in promoting the film.
That's because Pixar has the bad habit of naming people co-directors when they're really just assistant directors. This is Lee Unkrich's film through and through, the same way Inside Out was Pete Docter's film and not Ronnie del Carmen's. That's why the co-directors aren't credited as such when the films are submitted for Oscar consideration. The fact that Pixar likes to parade people of color and women involved with a film's production for publicity reasons is irrelevant.
Yes, they are technically assistant directors, but no less pivotal. And co-directors aren't nominated for Oscars, because those are the Oscar rules only recognise the main director.

But since Molina is also one of the two credited screenwriters on Coco, I'd say he's pretty heavily involved creatively. He (and other assistant directors, for that matter) isn't just sitting on his butt a lot of the time, waiting for Unkrich to call on him. The only times I would say co-directors are mostly just courtesy credits is when the original director is replaced (e.g. Jan Pinkava, Brad Lewis). But I think Molina's position here is similar to Bob Peterson's on Up and in that he is majorly involved, even if Unkrich is the central "auteur."
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estefan wrote:And co-directors aren't nominated for Oscars, because those are the Oscar rules only recognise the main director.
Yes, they are. Musker & Clements, Buck & Lee, Howard & Moore etc. The difference is that at WDAS co-directors are actually directors whereas at Pixar they may get that title but they don't have an equal role to that of the director.
estefan wrote:He (and other assistant directors, for that matter) isn't just sitting on his butt a lot of the time, waiting for Unkrich to call on him.

Of course. I never said that. But there is a vast difference between directing a film and assisting the director in creating the film he wants to make, the way he wants it. Assistant directors don't call the shots. It's not their film.
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Sotiris wrote:
estefan wrote:And co-directors aren't nominated for Oscars, because the Oscar rules only recognise the main director.
Yes, they are. Musker & Clements, Buck & Lee, Howard & Moore etc. The difference is that at WDAS co-directors are actually directors whereas at Pixar they may get that title but they don't have an equal role to that of the director.
I was referring to those credited specifically as "co-directors." They don't get nominated for Oscars. Like how Musker and Clements got "directed by" credits on Moana, but Don Hall and Chris Williams got "co-directed by" credits on the film.
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^The way the studios under Lasseter use the term "co-director" is not only incorrect but plain stupid. The prefix co- indicates association between equal parties. If there's more than one director, then all of them are by default co-directors. You can't label the one as a director while the other as a co-director. The way Disney uses it makes it seems like the prefix co- indicates an inferior position when it doesn't. And all of this nonsense because they have an inexplicable aversion to the very common and widely acceptable term "assistant director".
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JeanGreyForever wrote:
Disney trying to buy the copyright for the Day of the Dead was really off-putting to many people especially those whose heritage involves this holiday. They saw this as Disney only seeing their culture as something to mooch off from and having no respect for it whatsoever. I suppose it would be the equivalent of a country trying to buy the rights to Christmas.
This. The fact that Unkrich can't understand why some people would feel "threatened" by a company trying to absorb a holiday is laughable.
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A TV spot with some new footage:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xg06L5sB8G4
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The final trailer has been released.
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^ That looks amazing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It's going to be such a beautiful film, too!!!! I don't know how some people are not excited for this- it looks just as good as anything Pixar has put out!

Sneak Peek of Disney Pixar's 'Coco' coming to 'Walt Disney Presents' at Disney's Hollywood Studios
http://www.wdwmagic.com/attractions/one ... tudios.htm
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