Tangled! (The Artist Formerly Known As Rapunzel)

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Old Fish Tale wrote:I forgot to thank you, Margos! Thank you!
No problem! I for one was shocked to come across it. I was searching for anything I could find on Tangled on Youtube, and when I saw a cap that looked like a storyboard, I clicked it. I certainly wasn't expecting the trailer! :D
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Still a stupid title. Rapunzel was just fine. Nothing more except for my eyes to roll. :roll:
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I'm sorta getting used to "tangled", but Rapunzel just rolls off the tongue.
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Not bad, not bad at all. Hate the character design changes from unbraided that we saw, but animation wise, Im impressed. particularly the sequence where whats his name gets strangled and punches himself, it has a hand drawn esk fluidity. lots of squash and stretch going on here.
estefan wrote:As for the "Girls Just Want to Have Fun" song in the trailer, remember that this is un-finished, so it could just be a temp track used in place of a possible background score or one of Menken's songs from the film.
Yeah, it definetly seems like a scratch track. they often will use liecnese music for work in progress trailers and/or story boarded sequences, and due to the cost to get the rights to these songs they usually dont even get seen by the public.
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I also don't want to pass judgement until the finished trailer is released, but I will say i'm more pleased than unpleased by this. I don't think I will ever love the title being changed to Tangled, but i'm also not going to complain and get sick over it.

I don't think this trailer is really representing the film that we'll get. I'm sure it'll have humor, but not to the extent of many of the Dreamworks films. In fact, all of the humor shown in this trailer isn't that far off base of what you can find in any of the great DAC's.

I really hope we do get some of Menken in the final trailer. Somehow P!nk and Cyndi Lauper don't scream animated classic, haha. Maybe Menken has written some songs similar to those songs? I thought this was supposed to have a more pop/rock sounding soundtrack. I'm not sure where I remember seeing that, but I remember laughing because automatically I imagined Disney doing Rent.
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I'm pleased to hear that Mother Gothel won't have the generic villain looks.

I think I'll wait for the finished trailer to surface. Like some of you have said, I'm getting used to "Tangled."
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Yeah, "Tangled" doesn't sound too bad after a while. It does resemble the type of marketing Dreamworks use, that is always misleading, like with "Kung Fu Panda". So far it doesn't look half bad, but let's wiat to see the final trailer, was it gonna come on the PATF DVD or with Alice in Wonderland on theaters?
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Interesting . . . let's hope we have a good hit on our hands.
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Thanks Margos!

I still can't believe they're going to animate all that hair in CGI! Every chance they can Pixar and DreamWorks included give their female characters short hair or at the least a braid because they've always said it's so hard to animate it right. Pixar was having trouble with Violet's hair and it was medium length! It's remarkable how far the technology's has gone.

That chameleon is SO cute! The animals don't seem to be of the talking kind. ♫...I wonder, I wonder...♫

Did Rapunzel speak once in that "pre-trailer"?
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It's funny, my version of Rapunzel included that same joke as this version. At the end, where Flynn says, "Let down your..." and then Rapunzel drops her entire bundle of hair on top of him. Only in my version Rapunzel would do that for annoying prince's whom she was not interested in (in my version Rapunzel would only be locked away at the age right before blossoming into a beautiful girl, leading to the witch being jealous and afraid someone would steal her away from her. Then her childhood friend would go after her and eventually find her and fall in love)
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so it seems like the final design of Rapunzel is the same as these drawings by Glen Keane from that promo pic we got a couple of years ago:

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btw, if they managed to achieve the look and feel with these images taken from test footage done YEARS ago, then the final film must look STUNNING:

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(btw, from all the pre-production art it seems that the look and feel of the castle hasn't changed much throughout the years, so this could be the final look and feel it has in the movie, since this is a finished render dating a few years old)
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the trailer does confirm one thing. The movie is, as mentioned by the directors in that D23 interview, about Rapunzel exploring life outside the tower. I love that bit where her feet touch the ground and she goes crazy with joy. Very cute.
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PatrickvD wrote:the trailer does confirm one thing. The movie is, as mentioned by the directors in that D23 interview, about Rapunzel exploring life outside the tower. I love that bit where her feet touch the ground and she goes crazy with joy. Very cute.
I hope the movie does give us a set-up of Rapunzel and how she ended up inside the tower. Showing her as a baby and getting older through the years. Some backstory to her and her parents. BUT, since that crown is a very prominent aspect of the trailer I'm betting there is a reward given out to whomever finds the king's daughter. So I'm guessing we'll be seeing Rapunzel's royal parents as well at some point during the movie, unless they also die, which I doubt. Would be much cooler dramatically if Rapunzel had a stand-off and choice between her biological parents and her crazed mother... This will be a very layered and complicated movie!
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Wow, I didn't expect something like this, but somehow I really like it. Rapunzel looks like a really cute and shy girl. I also don't mind them centering the trailer more on Flynn, since I think he's a really likeable character, just like Naveen.
SillySymphony wrote:Did Rapunzel speak once in that "pre-trailer"?
She did. She said THREE whole sentences! ''I waited my whole life for this day.'' ''I can't believe...I did it!'' ''Best day EVER!'' She's not the most important character anymore, which is why I think they also changed the title. Which is kinda sad actually, but I like Flynn so...I don't know what to think...
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supertalies wrote:
SillySymphony wrote:Did Rapunzel speak once in that "pre-trailer"?
She did. She said THREE whole sentences! ''I waited my whole life for this day.'' ''I can't believe...I did it!'' ''Best day EVER!'' She's not the most important character anymore, which is why I think they also changed the title. Which is kinda sad actually, but I like Flynn so...I don't know what to think...
Please keep in mind that this is only a trailer, you can do a LOT with the way you cut a trailer! Here are some examples of how some creative fans made trailers for The Shining as if it were a warm family film and Mary Poppins as if it were a horror movie.

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OMG!!! I LAUGHED MY ASS OFF TO THAT SCARY MARY TRAILER!!!
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:lol:

that "Shining" trailer was hilarious too. Great find!
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u r welcome guys ;)

Best way to prove my point that you can do almost anything to a trailer, with the right editing and music you can turn the entire mood around! So don't judge the movie too harshly based on it's trailer :)
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robster16 wrote:u r welcome guys ;)

Best way to prove my point that you can do almost anything to a trailer, with the right editing and music you can turn the entire mood around! So don't judge the movie too harshly based on it's trailer :)
But aren't you forgetting the whole point of a trailer is to sell the movie? What else does the potential audience have to base their opinions of a movie on? That's the job of the trailer.

No company would trail Mary Poppins as a horror film or The Shinning as a family film, because the point of a trailer is to represent what the final movie is (to a certain extent this can be somewhat lax depending on the marketing - but rarely misleading). Its not nobody's interest - not the studios, not the theatre's and not the audiences for a studio to purposely mis-represent a film in the trailer.

Remember all that "OMG! Sweeny Todd's a musical" fuss - and that was a film that wasn't even mis-sold in the trailer - not the one I saw anyway.
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2099net wrote:
robster16 wrote:u r welcome guys ;)

Best way to prove my point that you can do almost anything to a trailer, with the right editing and music you can turn the entire mood around! So don't judge the movie too harshly based on it's trailer :)
But aren't you forgetting the whole point of a trailer is to sell the movie? What else does the potential audience have to base their opinions of a movie on? That's the job of the trailer.

No company would trail Mary Poppins as a horror film or The Shinning as a family film, because the point of a trailer is to represent what the final movie is (to a certain extent this can be somewhat lax depending on the marketing - but rarely misleading). Its not nobody's interest - not the studios, not the theatre's and not the audiences for a studio to purposely mis-represent a film in the trailer.

Remember all that "OMG! Sweeny Todd's a musical" fuss - and that was a film that wasn't even mis-sold in the trailer - not the one I saw anyway.
These videos I posted are an exaggeration of the point I'm trying to make. Of course Disney won't turn this movie around completely, but they can make decision in what they do and do not show in the trailer to give the impression to an audience that the movie is not something they think the audience might expect or be turned off from. Several people from the Disney staff have stated that the main character in the movie is still Rapunzel, no matter what the trailer or new synopsis tries to spin it in, and they have also decided to go for teenybopper remakes of classic songs, instead of new Alan Menken music. It's clear that with this trailer they try to distance themselves somewhat from the image of the classic Disney animated fairytale, which the movie is (according to many sources, including people working on the actual movie). Thus, concluding, they are spinning this story with the help of it's trailer.

Sometimes it's easier to use a caricature to make a point then it is with a very subtle statement, which explains my use of those two trailers to stress my point :) that's all...
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