Disney?

[BK]

Good to see a troll getting owned.

Having said that, I agree that Iger needs to remind himself what he's in charge of; a movie studio not a toy company.

Poor Walt.

[Wonderlicious]

Going back to the concept of Jack and the Beanstalk...it sounds relatively interesting, even if the story isn't very gripping. I know that there was a Shrek-esque version in the works a few years ago called You Don't Know Jack About the Beanstalk (it's mentioned in DisneyWar, along with countless other stupid-sounding fairytale spoofs that were in development). I can imagine any version that they would make would be quite a loose adaptation of the story anyway.

Having said that, I agree that Iger needs to remind himself what he's in charge of; a movie studio not a toy company.

Me too.

[BK]

Wait, Joe Jump is dead too?

It never sounded appealing but if all the in-production works are dead, well that can't be good, what will they release after Pooh?

Also, Wonderlicious, how good is DisneyWar?

[Goliath]

Iger has never shown that he has a clue (or gives a shit) about creativity or artistic merit when it comes to media. (I mean, how big of an idiot do you have to be to cancel Twin Peaks, one of the most critically acclaimed tv series of all time?)

[Sotiris]

Iger has never shown that he has a clue (or gives a shit) about creativity or artistic merit when it comes to media. (I mean, how big of an idiot do you have to be to cancel Twin Peaks, one of the most critically acclaimed tv series of all time?)

...AND Ugly Betty. That series was sooooo good. Now it's gone. Snif.

[blackcauldron85]

Wait, Joe Jump is dead too?

It never sounded appealing but if all the in-production works are dead, well that can't be good, what will they release after Pooh?

Also, Wonderlicious, how good is DisneyWar?

1. Joe Jump got revived, last I heard.
2. Besides Joe Jump, Ron & John have a project they're working on, but it's hush hush right now.
3. You didn't ask me, but DisneyWar is very worth reading.

[toonaspie]

Wait, Joe Jump is dead too?

It never sounded appealing but if all the in-production works are dead, well that can't be good, what will they release after Pooh?

Also, Wonderlicious, how good is DisneyWar?

I'd like to see them put King of the Elves back in production.

[Sotiris]

I'd like to see them put King of the Elves back in production.

Elvess..Smelves..Pff. I'd like to see them put the hand-drawn The Snow Queen back in production. NOW!!

[Babaloo]

This is from the animation guild:

Tangled, the movie in production, is generally liked, although some departments on the first floor are still waiting for the production wave to hit at full force.

Winnie the Pooh (the next feature up) is going full-tilt in the layout department, although some animators don't have a lot of scenes yet. Meanwhile, animation staffers attended a meeting about new ideas for hand-drawn production. (The word is that the company would like to see TP&TF hit $300 million globally, the better to get into clearly profitable territory, and of course now it's below that magical figure. "But the merchandise has sold well.")

So we know that they are actually trying to find a new hand drawn feature which I think is great. I knew hand-drawn animation wasn't dead, but with Disney's recent activities, I was worried.

Anyways they wanted PatF to make 300 million globally and I think it might reach it. According boxofficeguru.com, PatF has now made 234.2 million dollars (after making another 25 or so million this past weekend). And, although not a huge market, the movie has yet to be released in Japan. It opens there sometime in March. And in France it's huge! So I'm sure we'll see it hit the $300 million mark.

[UmbrellaFish]

This is from the animation guild:

Tangled, the movie in production, is generally liked, although some departments on the first floor are still waiting for the production wave to hit at full force.

Winnie the Pooh (the next feature up) is going full-tilt in the layout department, although some animators don't have a lot of scenes yet. Meanwhile, animation staffers attended a meeting about new ideas for hand-drawn production. (The word is that the company would like to see TP&TF hit $300 million globally, the better to get into clearly profitable territory, and of course now it's below that magical figure. "But the merchandise has sold well.")

So we know that they are actually trying to find a new hand drawn feature which I think is great. I knew hand-drawn animation wasn't dead, but with Disney's recent activities, I was worried.

Anyways they wanted PatF to make 300 million globally and I think it might reach it. According boxofficeguru.com, PatF has now made 234.2 million dollars (after making another 25 or so million this past weekend). And, although not a huge market, the movie has yet to be released in Japan. It opens there sometime in March. And in France it's huge! So I'm sure we'll see it hit the $300 million mark.

Great, great, great news!

[WDWLocal]

Iger has never shown that he has a clue (or gives a shit) about creativity or artistic merit when it comes to media. (I mean, how big of an idiot do you have to be to cancel Twin Peaks, one of the most critically acclaimed tv series of all time?)

...AND Ugly Betty. That series was sooooo good. Now it's gone. Snif.

Why is it that every time the company does ANYTHING, the CEO instantly gets the blame?! It's not right!

Not everything is the CEO's fault, so stop being jerks already!

Man, this forum continues to go downhill further and further every nano-second...

[Super Aurora]

...AND Ugly Betty. That series was sooooo good. Now it's gone. Snif.

Why is it that every time the company does ANYTHING, the CEO instantly gets the blame?! It's not right!

Not everything is the CEO's fault, so stop being jerks already!

Man, this forum continues to go downhill further and further every nano-second...

[Giygas]

Man, this forum continues to go downhill further and further every nano-second...

I'm actually with WDWLocal on this one, but only because Super Aurora posted that monstrosity.

[singerguy04]

Man, this forum continues to go downhill further and further every nano-second...

I'm actually with WDWLocal on this one, but only because Super Aurora posted that monstrosity.

LOL, with that point i agree as well.


Anyhow, the reason why the CEO gets the blame is because he is the leader. Being the leader, it means that the things that occur in your company are your responsibility. Being the CEO is not something that Bob Iger couldn't have helped. It was something he chose to do. The security of the company and the product it produces is his responsibility. If the company fails to achieve what's expected of it, it is the CEO's job to fix it and make sure things work. In this way, that is why Iger has not been a good CEO. The company's foundation (it's films) are not performing to the standards expected of them, and that IS Bob Iger's problem to help fix.

[ajmrowland]

But he doesn't make all the decisions, that's mostly the other execs. He oversees operations, but he can be easily out-voted on any issue.

[IagoZazu]

Man, this forum continues to go downhill further and further every nano-second...

I'm actually with WDWLocal on this one, but only because Super Aurora posted that monstrosity.

I'm on board with you!

About Iger, if he doesn't make all the decisions, then why was Eisner so powerful?

[WDWLocal]

But he doesn't make all the decisions, that's mostly the other execs. He oversees operations, but he can be easily out-voted on any issue.

Exactly.

So, don't blame everything on Iger. He's a great CEO and has saved Disney from the clutches of the evil Michael Eisner.

[Goliath]

Man, this forum continues to go downhill further and further every nano-second...

I'm actually with WDWLocal on this one, but only because Super Aurora posted that monstrosity.

Oh, get over yourself already. That goes for all of you, by the way.

I laughed my ass off.

[Goliath]

Exactly.

So, don't blame everything on Iger. He's a great CEO and has saved Disney from the clutches of the evil Michael Eisner.

Yeah, and in 1984 Michael Eisner saved Disney as well. So what the f*ck do you know?

[Duckburger]

The people who claim that Iger is a saint, while Eisner is a monster are ignorant. Sure Eisner has made A LOT of mistakes, but if you believe Iger can do no wrong then... wow, just wow. He's turning the Disney Co. into a flippin' toy company, he doesn't give a damn about the Disney brand, he cares about money - just like all the CEO's from all the media conglomerates. If he cared about Disney he would call the upcoming WDFA film Rapunzel, he would not abandon hand-drawn animation after one mediocre performance, he would not endanger box-office profits of big-budget features, he would not let the marketing department screw up the release dates of their most important releases, he would not shift the ABC shows from their regular schedules over and over again up until the point where people just can't track down 'their' show, and lastly he would not let the "adult brands" die out, or become shallow distribution labels.

So in conclusion, the I <3 Iger comments are getting really, really old.