Once Upon a Time (ABC TV Series)

[Disney's Divinity]

This episode was decent. It definitely solved a couple annoying things for me: first and foremost, this is the first episode Regina hasn't got on my nerves this season. Her understanding of Emma's POV and then finally recognizing that Zelena and her child is no different than her and Henry, and she's done much more wrong than Zelena has done. I also liked that Snow showed faith in her daughter for once (of course, this followed the scene where they kept her magic locked because they didn't "trust her"--which pissed me off, tbh). And I guess this is why we had that Brave episode a while back: to explain how Rumpel could possibly not (completely) fail at fighting Hook.

I rolled my eyes at Charming not showing confidence in Hook (wasn't that something he did in, like, season 3? Get over it already.) and Henry's meltdown mid-episode towards Emma. What was even going on with Belle? Why have you been with him for 24/7 since the end of season 4 if you don't want to be with him, jeez; but part of me's glad they're not skating over how screwed up their relationship is.

All the Hook and Emma stuff... I'm surprised, but I've actually become invested in the Hook/Emma relationship over time. I was so sure Hook would be faking the moment towards Zelena last time, but nope. In a way, I think this is trying to whitewash Rumpel just a bit, because makes being the Dark One out to be so much worse than, say, Regina's use of dark magic being similar to an "addiction." Hook had a split personality change without much of anything to push him over the edge. Anyway, this episode was horrible for Emma.

Only one more episode this Fall.... Hopefully Merida will be gone gone gone, never to return.

[Disney Duster]

I agree with a lot of what you said. Most especially, Belle. Like, why was she with him so long and then he finally becomes completely good and she still isn't sure? WTF.

I must have missed something though. When did Rumpelstiltskin die, or go "to Hell and back"?

[Disney's Divinity]

I must have missed something though. When did Rumpelstiltskin die, or go "to Hell and back"?

I wondered about that, too. The first thing I thought of was the whole Rumpel/Cora switch and then when he nearly died in 4B, but I think they were referring to when he seemed to kill himself at the end of the Pan arc?

[disneyboy20022]

I must have missed something though. When did Rumpelstiltskin die, or go "to Hell and back"?

I wondered about that, too. The first thing I thought of was the whole Rumpel/Cora switch and then when he nearly died in 4B, but I think they were referring to when he seemed to kill himself at the end of the Pan arc?

Yeah I believe it was the Pan Arc sacrificing himself at the end of that season, but being resurrected in the following season by Neal. Probably implying when he died, he went to Hell

[unprincess]

so when there's a new Dark One, the old one still gets to hang around & keep their powers? weird.

Hook should have kept the robe of EVIL, he looks hot in it...

[Patricier21]

The show just faced a series low We need to keep watching and spreading the word about it, otherwise it faces the risk of being cancelled. It is so good this season and finally found its footing this and last year. There is also so much more they have not included. It'd be great if it could just get to its initially planned 7th season, then we'll see where it goes from there.

You can share this article across the net if it will help: http://io9.com/things-are-finally-happe ... 1745253425

[Disney's Divinity]

That's more because it was a holiday weekend. I only say that because the numbers have been extremely consistent for OUAT so far and Empire, one of the biggest shows on TV right now, also fell pretty far in the ratings a couple days before. There was a drop after the AMAs last year, too.

[Disney Duster]

Oh, yea, maybe he died and went to the Underworld in the Pan arc.

[disneyboy20022]

The show just faced a series low We need to keep watching and spreading the word about it, otherwise it faces the risk of being cancelled. It is so good this season and finally found its footing this and last year. There is also so much more they have not included. It'd be great if it could just get to its initially planned 7th season, then we'll see where it goes from there.

You can share this article across the net if it will help: http://io9.com/things-are-finally-happe ... 1745253425

would

That article has a good point about Belle. She could be under a spell Hook put on her to punish Rumple. I mean as Jafar (from the DTV sequel) said: "After all, there are things so much worse than death"!

[Patricier21]

Only watch Once Upon A Time when it is on on TV or no more than one week after the episode airs on your DVR. If you have to watch it online, ONLY do so on ABC or CTV's official sites, do NOT watch it anywhere else as it will not count towards ratings.
Like I said continue to spread the word about it send ideas to the writers etc

[Disney Duster]

I didn't know they were planning on making this series last for 7 seasons. Where did you hear that, Patricier21? And is there any more they said about it?

If they do 7 seasons, I wonder if they'll do Swan Lake in the last season. I wonder why Emma's last name is Swan. Is Snow White or David's last name Swan?!

[Disney's Divinity]

Yeah, I've never heard any plan for 7 seasons, although I think one of the writers (not the creators) said something about, "7 sounds about right" when asked about how long the show might run. I know the actors' contracts are at least for 6 seasons.

[Disney Duster]

Yea, I didn't think they planned 7 seasons.

Also, Divinity, what did you mean by "And I guess this is why we had that Brave episode a while back: to explain how Rumpel could possibly not (completely) fail at fighting Hook"? I don't understand how that episode explains how Rumpel could defeat Hook.

[Patricier21]

One other thing that you can do to help the show do well is Talk about it on twitter, other forum sites like this, etc. and talking to the actors and writers helps too. Just get buzz around the show is as helpful as watching it

[disneyboy20022]

Hey tonight The President is addressing the nation tonight, so Once Upon a Time will be starting a bit late, so adjust your DVR's Accordingly

[Disney's Divinity]

I just hope it doesn't end up running over the show. :/

[Disney's Divinity]

Winter finale spoilers:

I can’t believe they juggled the Dark One powers around only to give them right back to Rumpel. Btw, if there was even any doubt before this—Rumpel is the most irredeemable character on this show. There’s no satisfying way to turn him around; he’ll have to die for it to be a “happy ending,” imo. I noticed how they used the animated movie’s turning point (where Beast lets Belle go to her father) here, which only got overturned as soon as we find out the twist.

I laughed at the ending, when Emma is going to Hell and she says the motto, “I will find you. I will always find you.” I don’t know why, but it was hilarious. Anyway, I’m really excited to see the rest of the season. I’m glad they were able to get scenes of the dead villains for the preview. Looks great.

Poor Zelena--but I'm glad they didn't kill her off. It'd be interesting if they came back from the Underworld only to find Zelena taken over the town. Whatever happened to Arthur anyway?

Overall, I’d say this was a good arc. Somehow they managed to make the Dark One stuff more interesting than it was at the end of 4, and I'm looking forward to the show delving into mythology.

If season 6 ends up being the last one, it'd make sense if the main focus is on taking down Rumpel. Perhaps they might bring Baelfire back along with Hook in relation to the Rumpel storyline? I hope not, but I could see it happening. I'd only be okay with something like that if they brought back young Baelfire instead, with Rumpel getting another chance like Geppetto, for instance.

[Patricier21]

According to this article http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-f ... ce=twitter there will be no Merida for at least most of the season which will please some as many did not like her. That also seems to be the reason why the storyline was dropped; because of the negative reaction towards her.

It also spills some interesting beans on Zelena coming back for a big part of the second story arc in this part of the season, plus to those annoyed with Rumbelle, it appears as though they will stay together despite all that has happened. They seem to be a couple that always essentially stays together even when it appears that they break up anyways. All of this Dark One stuff, which some found boring and frustrating appears to be gone as well.

Personally, from that trailer at the end of the episode, alone along with what was further teased in this article, I am even more excited for this second half of the Season and think that it will be better than this half. They seem to be heading in a pretty good and interesting direction with it, getting the show back on tact with what makes it good. It is going to focus on the main characters more it seems and bring the family dynamic about it back.

[Disney's Divinity]

According to this article http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-f ... ce=twitter there will be no Merida for at least most of the season which will please some as many did not like her. That also seems to be the reason why the storyline was dropped; because of the negative reaction towards her.

Good. I had more than enough of her in that empty 2nd hour a few weeks ago. That still pisses me off. An hour we could've had for more of Emma, Hook, etc. wasted on the Brave bs, ugh. And that was after the episode where Merida teaches Rumpel to be brave, which was also a complete waste of time. The actress for Merida posted some bitter things on Twitter because things from the last episode were cut, apparently.

I won't be surprised to see Zelena follow the group to the Underworld. For one, she'd definitely appear in the 100th episode and, two, this is the writers' chance to have her and Cora interact. Who knows--maybe meeting Cora will be what finally turns Zelena around?

[Disney Duster]

I didn't know about the president's speech so I had to wait a week to watch the rest of the latest episode online! And it was worth the wait! Wow, what twists! What Emma did with the sword and Hook was so powerful, as was how she felt afterward!

I can’t believe they juggled the Dark One powers around only to give them right back to Rumpel. Btw, if there was even any doubt before this—Rumpel is the most irredeemable character on this show. There’s no satisfying way to turn him around; he’ll have to die for it to be a “happy ending,” imo. I noticed how they used the animated movie’s turning point (where Beast lets Belle go to her father) here, which only got overturned as soon as we find out the twist.

I didn't realize there was that Beauty and the Beast, let Belle go to her father twist. Good catch! As for Rumple, he definitely pissed me off by seeming to turn around and then go back to being evil AGAIN. But I still have faith he can change. Perhaps he will finally, finally, truly change in the very last season. I think ANYONE can be redeemed.

I laughed at the ending, when Emma is going to Hell and she says the motto, “I will find you. I will always find you.” I don’t know why, but it was hilarious.

I didn't find it hilarious. I think it was, instead, to me, unintentionally bad, because of her acting, which is odd because Jennifer's such a good actress.

Whatever happened to Arthur anyway?

YEA! What did happen to him?!