Tangled! (The Artist Formerly Known As Rapunzel)

[blackcauldron85]

"Rapunzel, Rapunzel - let down thy golden extentions."

:):lol: That's funny! I don't want it in the Disney movie, but it's funny!

This reminded me another Disney crappy teeny movie called "Ice Princess".

Have you seen Ice Princess?!? It's got more depth than "crappy teeny" movies!

But Disney will pay the price! I'm personally working on a petition already to oppose this title. Cause I won't just take this laying down! I'll fight this title with everything I've got!!!

Like a boycott? Over a name-change? What if it's the best DAC in 10 years- you'll give up watching it due to a title change?

[robster16]

I started a petition opposing the title change. If you hate the title change and everything it stands for, please read it, sign it and spread the word. If we all do it's MAYBE we can start something...

http://www.petitiononline.com/16GKRap/petition.html

[DisneyJedi]

Ok, now it is official: The movie has a new title, Tangled. (And Disney will also be making a animated movie, in CGI that is - 2D is no good, about Hannah Montana, and the Snow Queen will be reimagined and set in modern day New York starring Selena Gomez as the Snow Princess. But Disney will be avoiding any focus on princess or queen in the title, no says Disney, this is a modern comedy for both boys, girls and their parents wallet's.)

Okay, I am feeling a little overwhelmed by this kind of news, so I will say what I have to say, trying to be as calm as possible. (takes a deep breath)

WHAT?!?!?! HOW CAN DISNEY DO THIS?!?! I THOUGHT THEY WEREN'T GONNA GO WITH ANYTHING SO EFFIN' STUPID!!!! ARE YOU TRYING TO KILL YOURSELF, DISNEY ANIMATION?!?!?! DO YOU ACTUALLY WANT HAND DRAWN ANIMATION- LET ALONE YOUR OWN ANIMATION DEPARTMENT- DEAD?!?!?!?! OH, MY GOD!!! HOW COULD YOU?!?!?! YOU'RE THE SAME GOD DAMN STUDIO THAT CHURNED OUT CLASSIC MOVIES LIKE THE LITTLE MERMAID, BEAUTY AND THE BEST, ALADDIN, THE LION KING AND OTHER GREAT MOVIES!!!! NOT CRAPTASTIC MOVIES LIKE TWILIGHT OR BEE MOVIE!!!!! OH, MY GOD!! WHERE THE *BLEEP* DID YOU GUYS GO WRONG?!?!?!

[robster16]

But Disney will pay the price! I'm personally working on a petition already to oppose this title. Cause I won't just take this laying down! I'll fight this title with everything I've got!!!

Like a boycott? Over a name-change? What if it's the best DAC in 10 years- you'll give up watching it due to a title change?

I'm not opposing the movie, I'm opposing the title. I'll make my own versions of the teasers, trailers, dvd covers, book covers etc, replacing the titlecard "Tangled" with "Rapunzel". That title will not enter my house!

[UmbrellaFish]

They've been marketing this movie as the return to classic Disney animated fairytales for YEARS now, and now that PATF underperforms to Disney's expectations at the box office they devellop a new marketing strategy where they retitle the story to some generic title unrelated to the fairytale and put the focus of the description of the story on the MALE lead character instead of "Rapunzel". It's horrendous! They talk about the infamous bandit "Flynn Rider"! WHO? I've never heard of the dude! Why? Because they develloped him from scratch, in contrast to the household name of the character "Rapunzel", the character this movie is all about, at least in every press release about this movie up untill january! Then everything changed...

But Disney will pay the price! I'm personally working on a petition already to oppose this title. Cause I won't just take this laying down! I'll fight this title with everything I've got!!!

When did they market this film as a "return to the Disney Classic"? I haven't seen any billboards or any posters. Ask the average person on the street and they won't even be able to tell you anything about the movie, much less say they've heard of it, because the movie hasn't been marketed yet. I mean, the trailer hasn't even been released. Sure, news has been leaked for years now, we've seen images from Quarterly Reports and yadda, yadda, yadda, but a film changes in production, and it should be allowed to change in production if that's what's seen as best for the film. I'm not going to yell and holler about a title change before I've seen a movie, which we barely have any information about.

Now, when they change "Beauty and the Beast" to "Team Werewolf" and "The Little Mermaid" to "Atlantica!- The Musical: How Ariel and Eric Fell in Love", yeah, I'd petition. These movies have established fanbases and are pop culture masterworks. But "Rapunzel/Tangled"? Really, who knows about this film besides hardcore Disney and movie fans? I haven't heard a bit of buzz about it (speaking of which, is not a good sign).

[WDWLocal]

Robster16, DisneyJedi, knock it off and go take your medications.

Your foolishness will get NOWHERE!

[UmbrellaFish]

Ok, now it is official: The movie has a new title, Tangled. (And Disney will also be making a animated movie, in CGI that is - 2D is no good, about Hannah Montana, and the Snow Queen will be reimagined and set in modern day New York starring Selena Gomez as the Snow Princess. But Disney will be avoiding any focus on princess or queen in the title, no says Disney, this is a modern comedy for both boys, girls and their parents wallet's.)

Okay, I am feeling a little overwhelmed by this kind of news, so I will say what I have to say, trying to be as calm as possible. (takes a deep breath)

WHAT?!?!?! HOW CAN DISNEY DO THIS?!?! I THOUGHT THEY WEREN'T GONNA GO WITH ANYTHING SO EFFIN' STUPID!!!! ARE YOU TRYING TO KILL YOURSELF, DISNEY ANIMATION?!?!?! DO YOU ACTUALLY WANT HAND DRAWN ANIMATION- LET ALONE YOUR OWN ANIMATION DEPARTMENT- DEAD?!?!?!?! OH, MY GOD!!! HOW COULD YOU?!?!?! YOU'RE THE SAME GOD DAMN STUDIO THAT CHURNED OUT CLASSIC MOVIES LIKE THE LITTLE MERMAID, BEAUTY AND THE BEST, ALADDIN, THE LION KING AND OTHER GREAT MOVIES!!!! NOT CRAPTASTIC MOVIES LIKE TWILIGHT OR BEE MOVIE!!!!! OH, MY GOD!! WHERE THE *BLEEP* DID YOU GUYS GO WRONG?!?!?!

It was a joke.

Sarcasm just doesn't always work right on UD.

[DisneyJedi]

Okay, I am feeling a little overwhelmed by this kind of news, so I will say what I have to say, trying to be as calm as possible. (takes a deep breath)

WHAT?!?!?! HOW CAN DISNEY DO THIS?!?! I THOUGHT THEY WEREN'T GONNA GO WITH ANYTHING SO EFFIN' STUPID!!!! ARE YOU TRYING TO KILL YOURSELF, DISNEY ANIMATION?!?!?! DO YOU ACTUALLY WANT HAND DRAWN ANIMATION- LET ALONE YOUR OWN ANIMATION DEPARTMENT- DEAD?!?!?!?! OH, MY GOD!!! HOW COULD YOU?!?!?! YOU'RE THE SAME GOD DAMN STUDIO THAT CHURNED OUT CLASSIC MOVIES LIKE THE LITTLE MERMAID, BEAUTY AND THE BEST, ALADDIN, THE LION KING AND OTHER GREAT MOVIES!!!! NOT CRAPTASTIC MOVIES LIKE TWILIGHT OR BEE MOVIE!!!!! OH, MY GOD!! WHERE THE *BLEEP* DID YOU GUYS GO WRONG?!?!?!

It was a joke.

Sarcasm just doesn't always work right on UD.

The "Tangled" part, or the animated Hannah Montana and Snow Princess movies news?

[Sky Syndrome]

Like a boycott? Over a name-change? What if it's the best DAC in 10 years- you'll give up watching it due to a title change?

I'm not opposing the movie, I'm opposing the title. I'll make my own versions of the teasers, trailers, dvd covers, book covers etc, replacing the titlecard "Tangled" with "Rapunzel". That title will not enter my house!

You can't escape Tangled. It's still going be displayed during the movie's opening scene.

[blackcauldron85]

The "Tangled" part, or the animated Hannah Montana and Snow Princess movies news?

The Hannah Montana & Snow Queen news was a joke.

[UmbrellaFish]

The "Tangled" part, or the animated Hannah Montana and Snow Princess movies news?

Tangled is true. The rest isn't.

Thank God.

[robster16]

They've been marketing this movie as the return to classic Disney animated fairytales for YEARS now, and now that PATF underperforms to Disney's expectations at the box office they devellop a new marketing strategy where they retitle the story to some generic title unrelated to the fairytale and put the focus of the description of the story on the MALE lead character instead of "Rapunzel". It's horrendous! They talk about the infamous bandit "Flynn Rider"! WHO? I've never heard of the dude! Why? Because they develloped him from scratch, in contrast to the household name of the character "Rapunzel", the character this movie is all about, at least in every press release about this movie up untill january! Then everything changed...

But Disney will pay the price! I'm personally working on a petition already to oppose this title. Cause I won't just take this laying down! I'll fight this title with everything I've got!!!

When did they market this film as a "return to the Disney Classic"? I haven't seen any billboards or any posters. Ask the average person on the street and they won't even be able to tell you anything about the movie, much less say they've heard of it, because the movie hasn't been marketed yet. I mean, the trailer hasn't even been released. Sure, news has been leaked for years now, we've seen images from Quarterly Reports and yadda, yadda, yadda, but a film changes in production, and it should be allowed to change in production if that's what's seen as best for the film. I'm not going to yell and holler about a title change before I've seen a movie, which we barely have any information about.

Now, when they change "Beauty and the Beast" to "Team Werewolf" and "The Little Mermaid" to "Atlantica!- The Musical: How Ariel and Eric Fell in Love", yeah, I'd petition. These movies have established fanbases and are pop culture masterworks. But "Rapunzel/Tangled"? Really, who knows about this film besides hardcore Disney and movie fans? I haven't heard a bit of buzz about it (speaking of which, is not a good sign).

For YEARS Disney has been reffering to this movie in press releases that this movie was a return to the classic Disney animated fairytale. The evidence is clear that this change was a last minute decision and Disney insiders have told us exactly why they changed the title, for fear of having another Disney princess movie. Well people, that's what this project is, has been and will always be. People on non related Disney boards are even going "WTF are they doing". The decision is stupid and I will not accept it! NEVER EVER!

[robster16]

I'm not opposing the movie, I'm opposing the title. I'll make my own versions of the teasers, trailers, dvd covers, book covers etc, replacing the titlecard "Tangled" with "Rapunzel". That title will not enter my house!

You can't escape Tangled. It's still going be displayed during the movie's opening scene.

I'll rip the dvd, create my own title, edit it in and burn my own copy!

[DisneyJedi]

The "Tangled" part, or the animated Hannah Montana and Snow Princess movies news?

Tangled is true. The rest isn't.

Thank God.

Thank God is right. If the animated HM or Snow Princess rumors were true, I probably would have admitted myself to an insane asylum. X(

[robster16]

Robster16, DisneyJedi, knock it off and go take your medications.

Your foolishness will get NOWHERE!

I'm passionate about this, if you don't like it, skip my posts or bite me! I'm sorry but I'm pissed and mad as hell about this EPIC marketing FAIL!!!

[Disney's Divinity]

So, really, why did they change the Unbraided title? I guess it's because it connotes a kind of glittery, butterfly-stickered hairbrush--not manly at all.

But let's look on the bright side:

1. Maybe this movie'll fail. Then Disney'll know that it's not the type of animation--or, more specifically, 2D animation--that is causing their movies to fail. And they'll also realize that their movies will suck in the box office regardless of the gender they play to. Their mentality is skewed so far off of reality these days, and maybe that'll finally register.

2. Using Tangled as the title is similar to using TP&TF instead of The Frog Princess--in the future, a 2D Rapunzel and The Frog Prince is open to be made.

3. After the movie drifts into oblivion after barely being noticed, I'll never have to see Rapunzel's 3D face slapped next to Cinderella and Ariel, or Mandy Moore's crappy voice side-by-side with Jodi Benson, Lea Salonga, or Ilene Woods.

[Prince Edward]

It was a joke.

Sarcasm just doesn't always work right on UD.

The "Tangled" part, or the animated Hannah Montana and Snow Princess movies news?

The Hannah Montana and Snow Princess news was sarcasm, I was quite irritated at Disney (or at the suits/marketing departement at Disney to be exact) for this Tangled-business, which is true I'm sad to say (check out the links to Disney's Facebook-pages that I have posted a few posts back...)

However, I feel quite the same way you do about the future for Disney animation. Until January/February it seemed like Disney was on the right track and that we would have several new animated movies over the next few years, and now they are cancelled (Snow Queen, The King of Elves, Newt) and renamed (Rapunzel). To me it seems like Disney animation still is struggling and that we won't have a comeback of Disney (2D) animation if things do not change.

Disney needs to realise a few things:
1. It takes time to win the audiences back after all their sequals and after the Disney Princess-franchise has made most of their fairytale-movies "films for girls".
2. Just because one Disney-film "flops" (or, in the case with The Princess and the Frog, fails to meet expectations who are set waaay to high) it does not mean that people does not want to see traditionally animated movies or Disney-fairytales.
3. Disney should be Disney and make timeless movies, not hip and "cool" movies like DreamWorks. All their movies must not have to be 2D or fairytales, but they must not be afraid to make such movies. The "cool" and hip movies with animals constantly farting or telling pop-cultural jokes will be forgotten in 50 years, while a true Disney-classic will still be remembered.
4. Disney needs to get another attitude when it comes to marketing. Seriously, stop overanalyzing everything, all we hear is "gender", "demografic", "franchise" etc. What about focusing mostly on making good movies and not mainly on marketing and the box office?

[UmbrellaFish]

For YEARS Disney has been reffering to this movie in press releases that this movie was a return to the classic Disney animated fairytale. The evidence is clear that this change was a last minute decision and Disney insiders have told us exactly why they changed the title, for fear of having another Disney princess movie. Well people, that's what this project is, has been and will always be. People on non related Disney boards are even going "WTF are they doing". The decision is stupid and I will not accept it! NEVER EVER!

But that's not marketing. That's Disney making empty statements to hype up audiences, and they've being doing that forever.

Yeah, it was a last minute decision, yeah, some people on the internet might be talking, and yeah, this decision was made to keep the movie afloat. If they think this will make the movie "gender-friendly" ( eww, I hate writing that, but nevertheless), so be it. Obviously, Disney is already sweating at the collar over this film's success. I'm not going to burden myself with (dramatic- BUM! BUM! BUM!) a name change when Disney animation could very well be over as we know it by the time this film comes out.

I rather Disney market it the way they see fit if that's what they think is the key to the movie's finacial success. And as I've stated, they haven't marketed any yet. We'll just have to wait and see.

[toonaspie]

Online petitions and facebook groups will do very little to grab Disney's attention, guys.

The only thing that's gonna really work here (and I say this from personal experience) is SNAIL MAIL and PHONE CALLS! No email. If people take the effort to write as many letters as possible and send them straight to WDAS, it's more likely to get their attention and maybe give us a little publicity...maybe.

[Prince Edward]

So, really, why did they change the Unbraided title? I guess it's because it connotes a kind of glittery, butterfly-stickered hairbrush--not manly at all.

But let's look on the bright side:

1. Maybe this movie'll fail. Then Disney'll know that it's not the type of animation--or, more specifically, 2D animation--that is causing their movies to fail. And they'll also realize that their movies will suck in the box office regardless of the gender they play to. Their mentality is skewed so far off of reality these days, and maybe that'll finally register.

2. Using Tangled as the title is similar to using TP&TF instead of The Frog Princess--in the future, a 2D Rapunzel and The Frog Prince is open to be made.

3. After the movie drifts into oblivion after barely being noticed, I'll never have to see Rapunzel's 3D face slapped next to Cinderella and Ariel, or Mandy Moore's crappy voice side-by-side with Jodi Benson, Lea Salonga, or Ilene Woods.

I totally agree with you on those statements! I was worried that this CGI-movie would stop Disney from making a 2D-version of the fairytale in the future that could fit in with Snow White, Cinderella, Sleeping Beauty, The Little Mermaid, Beauty and the Beast and Aladdin. (After all, Rapunzel is perhaps the one last grand, traditionally fairytale a la Cinderella and Sleeping Beauty.) A computeranimated princess/fairytale next to traditionally animated princesses/fairytales? No, thank you! Rapunzel (sorry, Tangled) may be a ok movie, and I love the Pixar-films, but movies in that style will never fit in with the old Disney classics.

And if this movie fails, perhaps Disney must face reality and evaluate their mentality and their constant focus on marketing, genders, demografics, franchises and what not.

To bad Alan Menken did not get The Princess and the Frog and that they have cancelled Snow Queen, now Rapunzel (sorry, Tangled) may be is last Disney animated movie:/ I love Alan Menken and his music beyond words, and the circumstances for his return to Disney animation could have been better...