Tangled! (The Artist Formerly Known As Rapunzel)

ajmrowland · Post by **ajmrowland** » Fri Feb 12, 2010 4:21 pm

I think it is joke.

I've got buckets of salt handy! Anyone who needs a grain or two need only ask!

Sotiris · Post by **Sotiris** » Fri Feb 12, 2010 4:25 pm

Prince Edward wrote:Disney will also be making an animated movie, in CGI that is, about Hannah Montana, and the Snow Queen will be re-imagined and set in modern day New York starring Selena Gomez as the Snow Princess.

You're joking, right?

JDCB1986 · Post by **JDCB1986** » Fri Feb 12, 2010 4:29 pm

PatrickvD wrote:In defense of Tangled... Up and Cars were pretty damn stupid titles. That worked out in the end. Disney's marketing can't change the content of the movie though.

Well Cars is about... cars, so it's a pretty descriptive title for being one word.
And UP symbolizes Carl's journey UP and away from the life he was strapped down to.

The_Iceflash · Post by **The_Iceflash** » Fri Feb 12, 2010 4:32 pm

sotiris2006 wrote:
1) CGI animated movie about Hannah Montana? WTF??

estefan · Post by **estefan** » Fri Feb 12, 2010 4:37 pm

I think Prince Edward was being sarcastic about the Hannah Montana and Selena Gomez flicks.

In regards to changing the title to Tangled to avoid having a girl's name in title, wasn't Coraline very successful last year? If that could be a hit and bring boys in with a girl's name in the title and a limited marketing campaign, I don't see how Rapunzel can't do it, albeit with a Disney-sized marketing campaign.

WDWLocal · Post by **WDWLocal** » Fri Feb 12, 2010 4:37 pm

The_Iceflash wrote:
sotiris2006 wrote:
1) CGI animated movie about Hannah Montana? WTF??

It's good to know that at least someone besides me knows that the nonsense Prince Edward just posted was nothing more than just a sick joke.

robster16 · Post by **robster16** » Fri Feb 12, 2010 4:37 pm

If you hate the new title as much as I do, join this Facebook group and spread the word! PLEASE let's FIGHT this title with every single fibre and bone in our bodies! It might not help but I'm not just going to sit by and do nothing and let them ruin the Disney legacy!!!

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2 ... 396&ref=mf

ajmrowland · Post by **ajmrowland** » Fri Feb 12, 2010 4:40 pm

sotiris2006 wrote:
Prince Edward wrote:Disney will also be making an animated movie, in CGI that is , about Hannah Montana, and the Snow Queen will be reimagined and set in modern day New York starring Selena Gomez as the Snow Princess.
Is this a joke? Please tell me that you were being sarcastic

1) CGI animated movie about Hannah Montana? WTF??

2) Live-action (or is it CGI?) teeny 'Snow Queen' reimagining?Ahh!

This reminded me another Disney crappy teeny movie called "Ice Princess". I know that it's about ice-skating and not about the Snow Queen story but the name only and the fact that it's a sugarly teeny Disney flick reminded me of it.

Oh, and Prince Edward could you please post a link of the site you've found this info? Thanks.

Ice Princess was okay, but yeah, not really great.

WDWLocal · Post by **WDWLocal** » Fri Feb 12, 2010 4:40 pm

robster16 wrote:The title is a DISGRACE to the Disney legacy! A complete travesty! And Disney will hear from me about this STUPID, STUPID, STUPID title change. I also find it a complete FUCK YOU to everyone and their mothers that they are now completely sidetracking Rapunzel as a side character and try to put the focus on Flynn Rider. It's as if she just happens to be there. Even from his carefully worded, advised by overpaid useless marketing execs, synopsis. The lack of balls and guts makes me ashamed of this project now, after having looked forward to seeing "Disney's Rapunzel" for over a decade!

I literally SPIT on the title Tangled!!!

WOAH! Talk about sour grapes. Take a chill pill, dude.

P.S.: Why do posts containing curse words get away with being posted on here? Children could end up reading this stuff. And the Disney Company could stop taking us seriously by reading all this endless nastiness, sarcasm and scorn. Do the Admins ever actually read these boards anymore?!

The Little Merboy · Post by **The Little Merboy** » Fri Feb 12, 2010 4:41 pm

robster16 are you the same guy, who use to be a mod at MadonnaMad, or something like that?

Sotiris · Post by **Sotiris** » Fri Feb 12, 2010 4:41 pm

WDWLocal wrote:It's good to know that at least someone besides me knows that the nonsense Prince Edward just posted was nothing more than just a sick joke.

Well, I suspected as much but with Disney you never know.

ajmrowland · Post by **ajmrowland** » Fri Feb 12, 2010 4:45 pm

estefan wrote:I think Prince Edward was being sarcastic about the Hannah Montana and Selena Gomez flicks.

In regards to changing the title to Tangled to avoid having a girl's name in title, wasn't Coraline very successful last year? If that could be a hit and bring boys in with a girl's name in the title and a limited marketing campaign, I don't see how Rapunzel can't do it, albeit with a Disney-sized marketing campaign.

Coraline was succesful, but it's budget was small. The title, "Coraline", while obviously playing off a feminine name, sounds cool, and the movie was marketed as a Family Spook-Fest, and boys prefer scare over hair. "Tangled" might as well be what Rapunzel's hair looks like after Flynn climbs it.

robster16 · Post by **robster16** » Fri Feb 12, 2010 4:48 pm

The Little Merboy wrote:robster16 are you the same guy, who use to be a mod at MadonnaMad, or something like that?

that would be me indeed

Wonderlicious · Post by **Wonderlicious** » Fri Feb 12, 2010 4:57 pm

Oh please tell me that this is all a joke. I know that it's just a title, but it's just horrid news; I'd gladly line all the marketing executives at Disney right now and get a firing squad on them. No, Disney, you shall not be getting my money for screwing up for the umpteenth time this century. What a bloody let-down.

robster16 · Post by **robster16** » Fri Feb 12, 2010 4:59 pm

WDWLocal wrote:
robster16 wrote:The title is a DISGRACE to the Disney legacy! A complete travesty! And Disney will hear from me about this STUPID, STUPID, STUPID title change. I also find it a complete FUCK YOU to everyone and their mothers that they are now completely sidetracking Rapunzel as a side character and try to put the focus on Flynn Rider. It's as if she just happens to be there. Even from his carefully worded, advised by overpaid useless marketing execs, synopsis. The lack of balls and guts makes me ashamed of this project now, after having looked forward to seeing "Disney's Rapunzel" for over a decade!

I literally SPIT on the title Tangled!!!
WOAH! Talk about sour grapes. Take a chill pill, dude.

P.S.: Why do posts containing curse words get away with being posted on here? Children could end up reading this stuff. And the Disney Company could stop taking us seriously by reading all this endless nastiness, sarcasm and scorn. Do the Admins ever actually read these boards anymore?!

Okay, let me explain my situation a little...

I've been a HUGE fan of Disney animation for years, grown up during the second golden age of Disney animation and adored the movies up untill this day. It fueled the desire in me to become an animator and I even studied animation at Academy of Art in Tilburg. During my study I used one project that went through my animation classes like a red thread, the devellopment of my own version of "Rapunzel". About 2 or 3 years after I started working on my version I first heard that Disney had started devellopment of their version of "Rapunzel", with Glen Keane at the helm. My alltime animation god and idol. I have been following this project ever since, while working on and off on my own version of the story.

I have my heart and soul invested in this movie and lately my confidence in Disney is hitting an alltime low, especially with this current title change devellopment. The title Rapunzel has been used for the project for over a decade now and the fact that they now changed it and the focus in the synopsis from the character Rapunzel to Flynn Rider, less then 10 months away from it's release date, looks like a weak and cowardly decision. We've all heard the rumors of Disney execs not being happy about the box office success of PATF, and to now twist the focus and name of this classic Disney fairytale from a recognizable, iconic fairytale character to some generic, void of originality and weird title like "Tangled" feels like a kick in the teeth. It's a disgrace to their legacy. I mean how does a fairytale movie with the title like "Tangled" measure up to classic movies like "Snow White", "Cinderella", "Sleeping Beauty" or "The Little Mermaid". Are we supposed to take this decision seriously? It's a complete CRIME!

I apologise for the use of curse words and I'll edit my response. I want you to know that I'd normally never use terminology like that here, but that is how ANGRY I am right now! This is the WORST thing they could have done. It's plain AWFULL!!!!

ajmrowland · Post by **ajmrowland** » Fri Feb 12, 2010 5:09 pm

You're terminology is a bit justified in the appearance that the youngest of us is around 15 or 16.

UmbrellaFish · Post by **UmbrellaFish** » Fri Feb 12, 2010 5:20 pm

Honestly, I would never get so upset about a title change. It's not that horrid of a choice. Not to mention, we haven't even seen the movie. Maybe Tangled will fit the film perfectly, maybe it'll be a misnomer, but I just don't see how this will matter twenty, thirty, forty years from now. If it's a classic, it's still a classic with the title "Tangled". If it's an obscure piece of trash, it's still an obscure piece of trash with the title "Tangled".

I don't even know why we Disney fans take the almighty "classic" seriously. I mean, is not every Disney film some "masterpiece classic", "family classic", or "hidden classic"? You better bet this film will someday be a "classic", and with this title, too.

I might be outraged if it were "Flynn Rider" or "Flynn Rider and Rapunzel", but I can't rip my hair out at this name.

Prince Edward · Post by **Prince Edward** » Fri Feb 12, 2010 5:30 pm

Yes, I was being sarcastic about Hannah Montana, Ice Princess and all that, and I am sorry if anyone was offended by it

I was a litte frustrated on behalf of both the Disney company and us Disney-fans when I wrote it.

But the part about Tangled is true, and you guys should check out all the comments about the changing of the name that Disney has gotten from Facebook-users. Most of them are shocked and annoyed, perhaps those of you who feel the same way should tell Disney your opinion to...

Here is a link to the two groups were Disney has posted this "wonderful" news:
Disney-page:
http://www.facebook.com/Disney?ref=ts
Walt Disney Animation Studios-page:
http://www.facebook.com/Disney?ref=ts#! ... ion?ref=ts

robster16 · Post by **robster16** » Fri Feb 12, 2010 5:35 pm

UmbrellaFish wrote:Honestly, I would never get so upset about a title change. It's not that horrid of a choice. Not to mention, we haven't even seen the movie. Maybe Tangled will fit the film perfectly, maybe it'll be a misnomer, but I just don't see how this will matter twenty, thirty, forty years from now. If it's a classic, it's still a classic with the title "Tangled". If it's an obscure piece of trash, it's still an obscure piece of trash with the title "Tangled".

I don't even know why we Disney fans take the almighty "classic" seriously. I mean, is not every Disney film some "masterpiece classic", "family classic", or "hidden classic"? You better bet this film will someday be a "classic", and with this title, too.

I might be outraged if it were "Flynn Rider" or "Flynn Rider and Rapunzel", but I can't rip my hair out at this name.

They've been marketing this movie as the return to classic Disney animated fairytales for YEARS now, and now that PATF underperforms to Disney's expectations at the box office they devellop a new marketing strategy where they retitle the story to some generic title unrelated to the fairytale and put the focus of the description of the story on the MALE lead character instead of "Rapunzel". It's horrendous! They talk about the infamous bandit "Flynn Rider"! WHO? I've never heard of the dude! Why? Because they develloped him from scratch, in contrast to the household name of the character "Rapunzel", the character this movie is all about, at least in every press release about this movie up untill january! Then everything changed...

But Disney will pay the price! I'm personally working on a petition already to oppose this title. Cause I won't just take this laying down! I'll fight this title with everything I've got!!!

Prince Edward · Post by **Prince Edward** » Fri Feb 12, 2010 5:42 pm

I have posted the following at Disney's Facebook-pages. Some comments from a guy apparently working for Disney said that they was very concerned about that no boys would like to see a movie called Rapunzel. (Then I would say that a sollution for this problem could be to keep the classic name but market the movie as a film everyone can enjoy, with some fairytaleelements for the girls and some action for the boys.) But annyhow, this is one of my comments to Disneys announcement:

"The Little Mermaid, Beauty and the Beast, Aladdin etc was also movies that were BASED on the fairytales with their own Disney-twists, but Disney kept the original and classic names for those movies. Kalling Rapunzel for Tangled is a epic mistake, it sounds like a silly comedy and not a Disney classic.

Also; Disney should really be doing more 2D traditionally animated movies, that is the legacy that Disney was built upon. Pixar can make the CGI animated movies. (3D-glasses is cool btw, either it's on traditionally animated movies or computer animated movies.) All this talk about "no, Disney can't make fairytales because then the boys won't be interested" and "no, Disney can't do 2D animated movies because no one is interested" - how do you then explain the success that The Little Mermaid, Beauty and the Beast, Aladdin, Pocahontas etc had in the 90s? A great Disney classic is something that both genders and all ages can enjoy.

If the 2D movies "fail" at the box office it's because Disney has not had a 2D animated classic in theatres for years, because Disney has compromised their animated brand by making all those straigth to DVD-movies about Cinderella III, Mulan III etc, and because Disney focus to much on the Disney Princess-franchise - that alienates boys from the Disney fairytales/animated stories. In the 90s people of all ages and genders loved Beauty and the Beast, Pocahontas, Aladdin, Hercules, The Litte Mermaid etc and did not think about the Disney fairytales as "princess films" or "films for girls"."

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