The Princess and the Frog Discussion - Part III

[Disney's Divinity]

Sounds like she was lovely.

[Sotiris]

Tokyopop's division Disney Manga is releasing The Princess and the Frog manga for the first time in the U.S. on March 13, 2018.

[Disney Duster]

It's a shame the article cut off the rest of what she said, which was something along the lines of children don't see differences, but that they see through eyes of love and it is adults who destroy that. She received thunderous applause for that comment and lots of folks were wiping tears from their eyes..

Yea, children don't see differences. That's why there was the need for a black princess. Wait a minute.

[Disney's Divinity]

[Disney Duster]

Well you can roll your eyes, but kids do see differences. They want to see themselves in characters, and how they look. And differences should celebrated. That's why it's good we have a black Disney Princess.

[Disney's Divinity]

I think her point was that children’s movies/shows/media can and do play an important role in helping children remember that skin color doesn’t make really make us that different from one another despite what things they might grow up hearing from the people around them (e.g., family, friends). Sometimes film or literature can overcome one's family's learned and taught prejudices.

Funny to be having this discussion just after a white supremacist march took place in the state above mine.

[RyGuy]

Funny to be having this discussion just after a white supremacist march took place in the state above mine.

I agree.

[Disney Duster]

I think her point was that children’s movies/shows/media can and do play an important role in helping children remember that skin color doesn’t make really make us that different from one another despite what things they might grow up hearing from the people around them (e.g., family, friends). Sometimes film or literature can overcome one's family's learned and taught prejudices.

Ah. Well, that's a good point.

[Sotiris]

I'm surprised Disney bothered making this video. They usually forget they even made this movie.

• The Princess and the Frog: One of the Inspirations Behind the Film

Update: Well, mystery solved. This video functions as an ad for New Orleans and was paid for by New Orleans Tourism. Oh, Disney.

[Jules]

Perhaps a dose of this kind of body structure might have helped the frog characters in Disney's The Princess and the Frog, one of the studio's last hand drawn films.

Full Post: http://andreasdeja.blogspot.com.mt/2018/05/frogs.html

Interesting commentary from Andreas today. I know some of you were not too fond of the frog designs in TPatF.

[Sotiris]

The 10th anniversary logo. Photo taken at a BoxLunch store.




Source: https://hottopic.scene7.com/is/image/Ho ... EB?wid=908

[Atlantica]

Ahh that's a lovely logo !

So many anniversaries this year; we have this one, The Little Mermaid & Sleeping Beauty. Glad they've all gotten the logo / promo they deserve. Is this from the Toy Fair expo that's going on currently ? I've seen loads of Ariel products but not seen as many for Aurora.

[Farerb]

Ahh that's a lovely logo !

So many anniversaries this year; we have this one, The Little Mermaid & Sleeping Beauty. Glad they've all gotten the logo / promo they deserve. Is this from the Toy Fair expo that's going on currently ? I've seen loads of Ariel products but not seen as many for Aurora.

Tarzan has 20th anniversary as well, but Disney probably can't do anything for it.

[Mooky]

Interesting. That was the movie's original logo before they 3D'd it up a bit.

[Disney's Divinity]

Interesting. That was the movie's original logo before they 3D'd it up a bit.

Oh, I missed that at first look. I always hated the official logo (in part because I loved the original one so much and in part because it was just straight up ugly on its own merit), so I'm happy the original's being used for something now.

[Mooky]

I agree. The original was simpler and prettier, the "frog" part in particular. I also liked the purple/green scheme better, those are the Mardi Gras colors after all.

[Disney's Divinity]

True about the colors. They're also dominant colors in the film, too (seen with Facilier's magic). The logo was great, even if I still wish they hadn't changed the title itself either. TP&TF got off easy compared to Tangled, but I still can't help thinking how much nicer it would be to be able to refer to the three films as The Frog Princess, Rapunzel, and The Snow Queen. *sigh*

[blackcauldron85]

[quote="Ron Clements, in Steve Hulett's "Mouse in Orbit" book"] It was our idea to do The Princess and the Frog as a musical with Randy Newman doing the music, and set it in New Orleans in the 1920s to give it that jazz age thing, which felt good for a musical, and to have the main character be African-American. We pitched that to John [Lasseter]...The intent on Frog was not to do a reinvention of 2-D animation, but to recapture the past, because hand-drawn animation was gone from Disney at that point.[/quote]

Much later, studio President Ed Catmull admitted it had been a mistake to put the word Princess in the title, as it labeled the movie a "girl's picture."

[Hulett, Steve. Mouse in Orbit. Theme Park Press, 2018.]

[DisneyJedi]

It makes me a little mad that Disney’s only just recently giving The Princess and the Frog any attention post-release. Like, guys! Where the heck were you when it was released, seeing Dances With Smurfs?

[Disney's Divinity]

I can't think of a title they could've come up without princess or prince in the title. Tiana wouldn't work as a stand-alone title, imo. Something including "the Bayou"? The Bayou Curse?

I can't think of a one-word adjective they could've used....