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Re: Cinderella's Restoration

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Disney Duster wrote:Disneykid, I was thinking I would make comparisons of the restored and unrestored versions as soon as I can, but I look forward to yours because I remember your wonderful comparison with the "Where Dreams Begin" music video and the Brazilian trailer for Cinderella Special Edition.
Oh, if you can make comparisons, please do. Unlike you, I haven't taped it. I'm sitting around waiting for it to debut online. As soon you do it, please post it here because I'm dying to see that restored footage again.

On a different note, does anyone else find it odd that we haven't gotten another trailer for this? Usually, Disney Platinums have two trailers. The first is a teaser that basically says, "Hey! Remember this movie? It's coming to DVD!" while the second is a longer trailer that not only extends what the first trailer showed, but actually reveals snippets of the DVD features. All the Platinums so far minus Snow White have followed this pattern. It's strange that as we near Cinderella's release, we've yet to see a trailer that shows us the bonus material.
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Disneykid wrote:I think we both just got owned by Deathie.
Master, i've found several aprentices for our cause.
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Disney Duster, i'm glad the post was useful. Yeah visual diagrams would be neato, i might do some sometime. Also If you're further interested i think i've seen a couple of websites that illustrate the processes with pics but can't remember the urls at the moment. Anyway if anyone ever need a further clarification of something, just ask, i'll probaby do a mile long answer, tho ;)

About the pixie dust (Disney Duster wants da dust! ;)), haven't seen the clips in question but let me propose a couple of scenarios for this fading dixie dust difference:

1. As you mention, this could be similar to what happened to the Citizen Kane Lowry DVD master where in some scenes the noise reduction went a little too far and even raindrops disappeared. Lowry acknowledged this occurance and has apologized as that being an "early instance" mistake, so i don't think at this stage things like this would happen. But even if it was something like this, the clips are NOT the final Platinun DVD Master, so the DVD could be tweaked scene by scene and be fine.

2. Another reason could be that in a high resolution version the pixie dust is perfectly visible and when reducing it to NTSC size without intervertion, it got merged into too faint to be resolved dust, without enhancing it on purpose. (As examples, the high res Bambi pics i've seen have much more visible grain than on the DVD at their full size but the moment i shrink them to DVD size, the grain practically vanishes cus it becomes too small to be resolved; or starfields can become practically invisible in space movies if care is not taken in a video transfer too. You woudn't try to get things boosted or enhanced to make the grain to be visible in the first case, while you'd want the stars visible in the second).
In previous video transfers, because the way they were done (edge enhanced) the dust may been more visible?, and likewise the Platinum final thing could be similarly tweaked and it would show up on there too. (You can play with stuff like that by selecting the frequencies to be enhanced (boosted), just like having a 10-band graphic equalizer in a Stereo lets you emphasize certain frequencies or instruments)

3. Maybe fairy dust is now as politically incorrect as goofy smoke? Just ask Mighty Mouse! ;) :twisted:

nah.

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Hopefuly this will be fine in the final release?

If not, there's always Blu-ray :twisted:
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Re: Cinderella's Restoration

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Disneykid wrote:On a different note, does anyone else find it odd that we haven't gotten another trailer for this? Usually, Disney Platinums have two trailers.
:? I find it odd that I don't see the trailers on tv! Or maybe its just too early? I remember seeing a bunch for Bambi. Maybe I don't watch enough tv? :lol:
Disneykid wrote:The first is a teaser that basically says, "Hey! Remember this movie? It's coming to DVD!" while the second is a longer trailer that not only extends what the first trailer showed, but actually reveals snippets of the DVD features. All the Platinums so far minus Snow White have followed this pattern. It's strange that as we near Cinderella's release, we've yet to see a trailer that shows us the bonus material.
Snow White kind of had one. They showed it on abc during "Wonderful World of Disney." A lot of ppl didn't see it though. The show that night (about the time Snow White would premiere on DVD) was Walt: The Man Behind the Myth and when it paused for commercial breaks, an ongoing Snow White "trailer" played when the show came back. It was hosted by Kelly Ripa and she was explaining on the "immersive" DVD features on the new DVD of the one that started it all (the one that wasn't Mickey :wink: ). I taped it and once I figure out how to transfer VHS on the computer, I just might have it for you. :)
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First, Deathie Mouse, I think you are right about the fairy dust perhaps being reduced in noise reduction or other processes. But what is "goofy smoke"? I know some of the old Disney cartoons had the characters smoking... And I would also love to learn more about what's happening to our Disney DVDs from you, so maybe I can catch you in a chat or a pm some time.

Anyway, Disneykid, thanks for the link, but I couldn't see the video in that link you provided (for some reason wmvs don't work for me), so I look forward to screen captures from Disney Villain. I managed to get footage from my old Cinderella VHS and the music video I taped onto my computer, so I compared them on my computer and boy are there HUGE differences! The pumpkin coach even looks a little blue! And actually I still think that some of the magic sparkles are not there but I have yet to see a perfect, clearer version of the video. I would have posted my screen captures from my vhses, but my dad saw what I was trying to do and thinks if I post Disney images online I could get sued. :roll: So now I will have to wait to see if he'll let me do it. If he doesn't let me, then please try to do screen comparisons Disney Villain! Make screen captures of the Cinderella Special Edition trailer and then the music video.
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I like the look of the transfer so far. The bit where Cinderella looks out the window and when she walks into the ball look amazing, in my opinion. I don't think justice is done to the transfer online (due to it being small and bitty, let alone the fact that the musical performances in the music video is a barrel o' crappy crap crap ;) ), but I'm gonna hope that it'll look fantastic on the final DVD!
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Disney's just - finally - launched the full official website (not just the teaser page.) There's still a little "coming soon" stuff, and no new trailer as of yet, but www.cinderelladvd.com is now definately worth a look. New buddy icons for AIM, too.
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Nice find, Jake! The site looks very nice so far, though the restoration example is a piece of crap. It's not even an actual frame of the film; it's a production still that's been brightened on one side. The picture of Cinderella on the main page is a touched up version of this piece of clipart, presumably by the same artist of the DVD cover. I wonder if that will take the place of the Cinderella we see on the disc art, or if it'll appear on the back cover or something. The DVD highlights page wil undoubtedly be the interior of the slipcover when you open it up. I'm disappointed that Disney still hasn't posted the music video on their website. Putting it up in Quicktime would make it easy for me to take screencaps, thus relieving Disney Villain all the work of transferring the Windows Media version to DVD.
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Oh, that site has gotten me all excited for the DVD again (after seeing the music video, my appetite vanished :roll:). It's a bit lame that the main page highlights the fact that stars one of your favourite princesses, but the site is still cute, if it is only plop.
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has anyone a trailer from cinderella not from the platinum edition dvd ,but from erlier releases from cinderella ,the vhs release for example :D
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As mentioned on The Disney Database, the Cinderella webte has been updated with DVD info, trailers, games, and more!
Click here to see it!

Bibbidi-Bobbidi-Boo gets really old after awhile!

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goofy108 wrote:As mentioned on The Disney Database, the Cinderella webte has been updated with DVD info, trailers, games, and more!
Click here to see it!

Bibbidi-Bobbidi-Boo gets really old after awhile!

:goofy:
jes i know :D but i search other trailers from disney's cinderella :)
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I don't know if this has been posted before but...

I haven't been to the mall in a while, but we recently went to the Florida Mall during our vacation last week. I went to the Disney Store and was ecstatic to find that one can now pre-order the Platinum Cinderella DVD. But my happy feeling quickly went down when I saw...

NO LITHOGRAPHS! :cry:

I was ready to order my DVD and get my 4 free lithographs to add to my collection that I started with Snow White's release. Then I got scared when you couldn't preorder Bambi (still have to search for the lithograph set). Now I'm sad since you don't get a lithograph but something called a Lenticular or something like that. Though I have to admit it does seem cool since it is one of those things where the picture changes if you angle it (it is Cinderella in rags and she changes to her ballgown), I am still sad I will not have more lithographs to add to my collection.
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That stinks. I got lithographs from pre-ordering Beauty & The Beast & The Lion King. I don't buy anything from The Disney Store anyway anymore. Do all my shoppin at the regular electronics store. Saves me more money in the long run.
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Just a random question, can you post a picture of what a litograph is (or give an example)? I have a theory that it is an average print of a picture, a bit like the smallish one found in the Region 1 Walt Disney Treasures. Is this true?
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I googled Disney lithograph images and this was the first to come up... should give you a pretty general idea: http://www.animationalley.com/images/lith/LITH-09.jpg

EDIT: This one is probably better: http://www.rrauction.com/content/images ... 106064.jpg

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Thank you very much Aaron. I understand what everyone is talking about now. :P
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If you're wondering where all the discussion on the Disney Channel Circle of Stars music video of "A Dream is a Wish Your Heart Makes" has gone, don't worry - it hasn't been erased by the Department of Censorship, Loomis. It's gotten its own thread:
http://www.ultimatedisney.com/forum/vie ... hp?t=10481

That thread can be used to discuss the music video, getting screencaps, etc..., while more general comments, questions, updates, etc., about the DVD at large can stay here in this thread. Hopefully, the move makes both this and the other threads easier to follow along as intended. Thanks for understanding.
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Thank you, Luke! It actually does make more sense for the Cinderella music video and the screencaps from it to be in a seperate thread. People will be able to follow things easier now. By the way, that avatar is also from The Adventures of Pete and Pete, isn't it? Some episode about trying to find and meet the ice cream guy...right? I loved that show. Is it just out now on DVD or something?
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Disney Duster wrote:By the way, that avatar is also from The Adventures of Pete and Pete, isn't it? Some episode about trying to find and meet the ice cream guy...right? I loved that show. Is it just out now on DVD or something?
Yes, it is. Good eyes. The first season finally came out in May...officially. You'll have to pick it up!
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oh and i thought it was a brugerbagel :p


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