Passion of the Christ

MickeyMouseboy · Post by **MickeyMouseboy** » Sun Mar 28, 2004 7:15 am

im not putting you in anything

I just quoted what was saying in previous posts thanks!

toonaspie · Post by **toonaspie** » Wed Mar 31, 2004 9:24 am

tonight they will be showing a "South Park" episode in which Kyle finally sees "The Passion of the Christ" under Cartman's pressure

Did anyone notice "The Passion of the Christ" running gag that's been going on since season 8 began (of course that was two weeks ago)? In those first two episodes of season 8, there was a conflicting scene between Cartman and Kyle in which Cartman resolves to win by bringing up how the Jews did Jesus in according to "The Passion"

"If Road Rider says it, it must be true," says Cartman. "You can't prove Mel Gibson wrong, can you?"

Matt Stone and Trey Parker are geniuses. I think it would've been funny to see that the whole season 8 was devoted to "The Passion" running gags. Come on, it's their job to make fun of everything!

PatrickvD · Post by **PatrickvD** » Wed Mar 31, 2004 11:21 am

I saw them. That was so entertaining! I can totally enjoy the south park humor. It puts things in a perspective that shows how redicolous some things in today's society are. Love south park.. But I havent seen the Passion so maybe I should see that first before seeing that episode

Disneykid · Post by **Disneykid** » Wed Mar 31, 2004 12:44 pm

According to Davis DVD, rumors are that The Passion will hit DVD sometime in the fall, possibly October and that Mel and Icon Productions are working on the DVD features right now. This is encouraging to me because I had heard rumors that Mel wanted this to be a fairly barebones release, but if they're working on supplements, there must be some meat on it. All I ask for is a commentary track, the "making of" special, trailers and tv spots, and possibly a little featurette or two on aspects of production that weren't covered in the "making of". I would've liked to have seen the Diane Sawyer interview as a supplement, but that's been given a dvd release of its own, so I doubt it'll make it to the Passion's DVD. If the October rumor is true, then I'll be glad as that's when my birthday is.

It's also rumored that Mel plans on re-releasing the film to theaters in December to generate Oscar buzz.

Prince Adam · Post by **Prince Adam** » Wed Mar 31, 2004 2:40 pm

Disneykid wrote: It's also rumored that Mel plans on re-releasing the film to theaters in December to generate Oscar buzz.

What ever happened to this being a low-profile film with no credit being given to anyone? This movie is exploited the story of Christ! I can't go anywhere without seeing "Passion" CD's, posters, books, pencils, stationary, jewellery, and even movie tie-in Bibles!

And if what you said, Disneykid, is true, that he's re-releasing it to get a nod from Oscar! I can't believe that! True, the movie should be recognized, but if it's not, too bad! If it's meant to be, it will happen.

Plus, what's happening with the money that all of these products are making? Since it's a movie based on the word of God, shouldn't the money go to the needy people of God? Like World Vision? Or the Foster Parents' Plan?

Disneykid · Post by **Disneykid** » Wed Mar 31, 2004 3:12 pm

Well, personally, I don't think this movie's exploiting Christ anymore than something like Schindler's List exploited the Holocaust. If Mel wants to keep the money himself (after paying crew and such), then that's his business, though I've heard he's donating the money to various churches. If the merchandise bothers you, will the DVD release bother you, too? If not, then what's the difference? As for the Oscar, perhaps it's not Mel's idea. Perhaps Icon and/or New Market is pushing for it. Like I said, these are all just rumors. Nothing I've said is verified fact, only rumor.

Prince Adam · Post by **Prince Adam** » Wed Mar 31, 2004 4:30 pm

It's not the DVD release. The one that really got me was the Bible with Jim whatever's picture on the front, and advertisments for the movie on it.

Disneykid · Post by **Disneykid** » Wed Mar 31, 2004 5:07 pm

Ah, I've never seen that, but it DOES sound rather extreme...

toonaspie · Post by **toonaspie** » Wed Mar 31, 2004 8:39 pm

well I just saw the South Park episode and I must say that was rather messed (wanna say the f word) up! But the jokes stay true to the characters and the deal with Cartman was outrageously funny!

cittycatie · Post by **cittycatie** » Wed Mar 31, 2004 10:44 pm

I thought me movie was very good and very realistic!!! I felt sad and at some parts about to cry, but over all, it was a really good movie, worth while seeing!!!!!

2099net · Post by **2099net** » Thu Apr 01, 2004 2:14 am

Disneykid wrote:Well, personally, I don't think this movie's exploiting Christ anymore than something like Schindler's List exploited the Holocaust. If Mel wants to keep the money himself (after paying crew and such), then that's his business, though I've heard he's donating the money to various churches. If the merchandise bothers you, will the DVD release bother you, too? If not, then what's the difference? As for the Oscar, perhaps it's not Mel's idea. Perhaps Icon and/or New Market is pushing for it. Like I said, these are all just rumors. Nothing I've said is verified fact, only rumor.

But wasn't all the profit from Schindler's List (or at least Spielberg's personal profit) used to set up the Shoah Foundation which did the worthy job of recording eye-witness accounts of the holocaust before the survivors died? Plus, apart from the usual tie in movie books and soundtrack I can't remember a slew of Schindler's List merchandise.

They certainly didn't make Schindler's List shot glasses, or T-shirts.

karlsen · Post by **karlsen** » Thu Apr 01, 2004 4:48 am

I don't have any problem with Gibson getting money from this project. You must all remember that he personaly had lots of money tied up in this project and if nobody had released it he would have lost many millions of dollars.

When it comes to merchendice I am a little more sceptical, but there are lots of mercendise out there that already are profeting on the bible and nobody seems to care about those. What about pencils that have bible verses on them or those WWJD things. Somebody made a big fortune out of that.

I think that you should think of the Pasion merchendise as a comersial effect for the movie, and maybee someone that sees a poster or listens to the CD wants to go and see the movie after that. Then somebody new would get to see the great message that the movie shows.

I watched the movie with my brother on the premiere here in Oslo (Norway) and there was another guy in the audience that after he saw it he went straight to the police to confess that he was the man behind 2 bombs in the 90s.

Norway is a peacfull country and those 2 bombs that exploded in a house in the 90s is some of the worst cases of crime that we have had like that. After seeing the movie the man behind it feelt that he had to confess.

In my oppinion that is a great reaction to the film.

2099net · Post by **2099net** » Thu Apr 01, 2004 4:48 am

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainmen ... 572185.stm

How faithful is Gibson's Passion?
by The Revd Dr Andrew Goddard
Tutor in Christian Ethics, Wycliffe Hall, Oxford

As The Passion of The Christ goes on general release in the UK, BBC News Online looks at how closely the film stays faithful to the Biblical version of the momentous events surrounding Jesus' final hours. ...

MickeyMouseboy · Post by **MickeyMouseboy** » Thu Apr 01, 2004 8:23 am

Disneykid wrote: It's also rumored that Mel plans on re-releasing the film to theaters in December to generate Oscar buzz.

How about the: Passion of Christ - The Original Bible Story Cut

2099net wrote:http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainmen ... 572185.stm

How faithful is Gibson's Passion?
by The Revd Dr Andrew Goddard
Tutor in Christian Ethics, Wycliffe Hall, Oxford

As The Passion of The Christ goes on general release in the UK, BBC News Online looks at how closely the film stays faithful to the Biblical version of the momentous events surrounding Jesus' final hours. ...

I liked what they said here:

Yes, there is much artistic licence. Some of this uses biblical imagery, as when Jesus crushes the serpent in the garden. Most doesn't, although a lot uses later Christian devotional traditions, notably the stations of the cross.

The most questionable aspect of Gibson's interpretation is its gore. Blood is everywhere.

But many who see the film will want to read the book and rediscover the Gospel according to Matthew, Mark, Luke or John rather than according to Mel.

just says what I been saying.....Now here in the news there was a couple who went to see this movie on their way out they started a discussion that ended up in both beating themselves out, people called the police and I think both are going to court or something. Pretty sad that this movie makes people act like fools.

MickeyMouseboy · Post by **MickeyMouseboy** » Thu Apr 01, 2004 8:31 am

Here's what the French had to say about this film, which i think it's funny and true in a way.

The tabloid France-Soir claimed the "manipulative" film was aimed at guilt-ridden US ultra-conservatives.

the daily Liberation said: "It is the marriage of Hollywood money and the reactionary ideology of 'made in USA' Christian fundamentalism in a long video-clip praising martyrdom."

Newspaper Le Monde said the film's message was "part of the worst fundamentalist trends of the modern world"

Weekly magazine Nouvel Observateur said it was "undoubtedly the most dangerous and most violent interpretation ever made of the Passion of Christ".

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainmen ... 588895.stm

Disneykid · Post by **Disneykid** » Thu Apr 01, 2004 3:32 pm

MickeyMouseboy wrote:
I liked what they said here:

Yes, there is much artistic licence. Some of this uses biblical imagery, as when Jesus crushes the serpent in the garden. Most doesn't, although a lot uses later Christian devotional traditions, notably the stations of the cross.

The most questionable aspect of Gibson's interpretation is its gore. Blood is everywhere.

But many who see the film will want to read the book and rediscover the Gospel according to Matthew, Mark, Luke or John rather than according to Mel.
just says what I been saying...

But this person doesn't have a problem with the artistic license whereas you do. You conveniently left off the previous paragraph:

Gibson is respectful and, though selective, faithful to those accounts and the Bible's message of Christ's redeeming love.

He also goes on to say that as long as people come to Christ after seeing this film, then that's what matters in the end, and I agree.

Rebel · Post by **Rebel** » Fri Apr 02, 2004 12:06 am

Prince Adam wrote:Plus, what's happening with the money that all of these products are making? Since it's a movie based on the word of God, shouldn't the money go to the needy people of God? Like World Vision? Or the Foster Parents' Plan?

People are not supposed to personally profit from making movies based on the word of God, but it is ok to personally profit from other movies?? If you are going to make movies for a living, why would it be wrong to make them based upon the Bible?

The sinking of the Titanic was a major tragic disaster, but I never heard anyone complain that the major blockbuster movie profits should go to disaster victims and their families instead of to the people responsible for making the movie.

BTW, did anyone criticize Scorsese on these issues when he profited from his Jesus movie? Did anyone suggest that he should donate the proceeds to charity? (Of course he did not make nearly as much money since it really was not a very good movie.)

Regardless, Mel Gibson supports a lot of charities and he is spending millions to build a church. He also is possibly planning to produce some more movies based upon his faith.

MickeyMouseboy · Post by **MickeyMouseboy** » Fri Apr 02, 2004 12:53 pm

Disneykid wrote:
MickeyMouseboy wrote:
I liked what they said here:
just says what I been saying...
But this person doesn't have a problem with the artistic license whereas you do. You conveniently left off the previous paragraph:

I didn't conviniently left off the previous paragraph. I just copied the part that said that Mel's movie was his own take on the Gospel and not the bible's.

Disneykid · Post by **Disneykid** » Fri Apr 02, 2004 1:04 pm

MickeyMouseboy wrote: I didn't conviniently left off the previous paragraph. I just copied the part that said that Mel's movie was his own take on the Gospel and not the bible's.

Ah, nevermind, then.

Loomis · Post by **Loomis** » Sun Apr 11, 2004 7:04 am

Just thought I'd "resurrect" this thread for Easter.

Here is the most hilarious story I have ever heard - and it is Passion related:

Easter Bunny whipped at church show; some families upset
http://www.post-gazette.com/breaking/20 ... unnyp4.asp

A church trying to teach about the crucifixion of Jesus performed an Easter show with actors whipping the Easter bunny and breaking eggs, upsetting several parents and young children.

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