Star Wars Saga Blu Ray set confirmed to be in the works

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dvdjunkie wrote:bufflobill wrote:
I wouldn't buy it at Best Buy........
Don't know where you live, but I am a Best Buy Reward Zone Premium Silver card carrier and with the purchase of the Star Wars Box Set I will get quadruple points, plus I am using $35 in gift certificates so I will be getting this for a much better price, and after seeing the Lithos I am not impressed because they are the same ones that came with Prequel and Original Box sets several years ago. If they were something new, I might be persuaded but I will stick with Best Buy and my Reward Zone points.
I like how you quote my first sentence & cut off the second half (kinda like FOX News). I said "without a Target ad to pricematch". If I had gift cards et al I would buy it at BB too BUT I'd start by having them drop the price ten bucks. You still can use your gc's & get your quadruple points but if you prefer to pay a higher price go right ahead. And what does "where you live" have to do with anything??? Target is $10 cheaper than BB(I would assume the same "wherever YOU live"). Personally I'd rather have them take $35 off $79 than $89. And should I bow to your Premium silver membership? You have a very antagonistic attitude in your manner of posting.
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dvdjunkie, I’m sorry to hear about your unfortunate experience with Amazon. Most of my bad (and great) experiences come from dealers on eBay but I luckily have PayPal to handle all that for me. As for Amazon, I’ve never had a bad experience with them ever. I usually buy Amazon gift cards at Giant Eagle when they’re offering 20¢ fuel perks, and then type in the codes on Amazon’s site when I get home, which gives me credit right on the site that I can use at any time. I usually stray from using credit cards through online retailers whenever possible. Between the low prices, free shipping and zero sales tax, Amazon can’t be beat and I’ll be saddened the day our government fucks it all up for everyone.
DisneyJedi wrote: The ones complaining about the alterations- the fanbrats- are just being immature about them.
No need to call us names, we have the right to an opinion, as do you. I honestly feel Lucas is the one being immature about all this, refusing to release the original version alongside his new versions. He's a child throwing a tantrum, not to mention being a hypocrite:

"I am very concerned about our national heritage, and I am very concerned that the films that I watched when I was young and the films that I watched throughout my life are preserved, so that my children can see them." - George Lucas on the colorization of B&W films

Compare his childish attitude to Spielberg's more mature take:

“[In the future] there’s going to be no more digital enhancements or digital additions to anything based on any film I direct. I’m not going to do any corrections digitally to even wires that show…At this point right now I think letting movies exist in the era, with all the flaws and all of the flourishes, is a wonderful way to mark time and mark history.”

“When people ask me which E.T. they should look at, I always tell them to look at the original 1982 E.T. If you notice, when we did put out E.T. we put out two E.T.s. We put out the digitally enhanced version with the additional scenes and for no extra money, in the same package, we put out the original ‘82 version. I always tell people to go back to the ’82 version.”


Even though I actually like Spielberg's updated E.T., the man undeniably understands the importance of film preservation, he just 'gets it.' He included both versions of E.T. on the DVD release and all 3 versions of Close Encounters on it's Blu-ray release. I have mad respect for Spieberg but I can't say the same thing for Lucas.

Oh yeah, here's a bonus video of Spielberg basically admitting he didn't want to do Crystal Skull and that Lucas is to blame for everything wrong with it. It only confirms everything we suspect about the man:

<iframe width="560" height="345" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/rE7fzr6lQ-s" frameborder="0"></iframe>

"There was a reason that I invented the shot of Harrison riding a horse in the sunset because I thought that brought the curtain down on the trilogy and that we were all going to move on and mature into other aspects of filmmaking..."

Oh you know that snip was specifically aimed at Lucas but here's the best part:

“We created Indiana Jones but it belongs to the world...”

God dammit, he 'gets it.' He really does.
DisneyJedi wrote:Is the Blu-ray transfer for the original trilogy any different from the 2004 DVD transfer of the original trilogy? In other words, does the picture look any different? I really REALLY wanna know. Please post any screencaps if you can for comparison.
It's the same transfers used for the DVDs that Lowry scanned in nearly 8 years ago. All the changes to the presentation found on the DVDs (e.g. the blue tint) are still there, with the only discernible difference between releases being the increased resolution and the additional alterations. Here's some examples I found:

Screenshot comparison of TESB. 2004 DVD vs. 2011 Blu-ray: http://screenshotcomparison.com/comp...9095/picture:0

Screenshot comparison of ROTJ. 2004 DVD vs. 2011 Blu-ray: http://screenshotcomparison.com/comp...9115/picture:0
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Well, be that as it may, I am going to buy the complete Saga on Blu-ray, simply because I love these movies. Even if Lucas has to alter them a zillion times. :P
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^The intention of my post wasn't to sway you away from purchasing the set but to simply point out the validity of us fanbrats' arguments.
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jpanimation wrote:dvdjunkie, I’m sorry to hear about your unfortunate experience with Amazon. Most of my bad (and great) experiences come from dealers on eBay but I luckily have PayPal to handle all that for me. As for Amazon, I’ve never had a bad experience with them ever. I usually buy Amazon gift cards at Giant Eagle when they’re offering 20¢ fuel perks, and then type in the codes on Amazon’s site when I get home, which gives me credit right on the site that I can use at any time. I usually stray from using credit cards through online retailers whenever possible. Between the low prices, free shipping and zero sales tax, Amazon can’t be beat and I’ll be saddened the day our government fucks it all up for everyone.
DisneyJedi wrote: The ones complaining about the alterations- the fanbrats- are just being immature about them.
No need to call us names, we have the right to an opinion, as do you. I honestly feel Lucas is the one being immature about all this, refusing to release the original version alongside his new versions. He's a child throwing a tantrum, not to mention being a hypocrite:

"I am very concerned about our national heritage, and I am very concerned that the films that I watched when I was young and the films that I watched throughout my life are preserved, so that my children can see them." - George Lucas on the colorization of B&W films

Compare his childish attitude to Spielberg's more mature take:

“[In the future] there’s going to be no more digital enhancements or digital additions to anything based on any film I direct. I’m not going to do any corrections digitally to even wires that show…At this point right now I think letting movies exist in the era, with all the flaws and all of the flourishes, is a wonderful way to mark time and mark history.”

“When people ask me which E.T. they should look at, I always tell them to look at the original 1982 E.T. If you notice, when we did put out E.T. we put out two E.T.s. We put out the digitally enhanced version with the additional scenes and for no extra money, in the same package, we put out the original ‘82 version. I always tell people to go back to the ’82 version.”


Even though I actually like Spielberg's updated E.T., the man undeniably understands the importance of film preservation, he just 'gets it.' He included both versions of E.T. on the DVD release and all 3 versions of Close Encounters on it's Blu-ray release. I have mad respect for Spieberg but I can't say the same thing for Lucas.

Oh yeah, here's a bonus video of Spielberg basically admitting he didn't want to do Crystal Skull and that Lucas is to blame for everything wrong with it. It only confirms everything we suspect about the man:

<iframe width="560" height="345" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/rE7fzr6lQ-s" frameborder="0"></iframe>

"There was a reason that I invented the shot of Harrison riding a horse in the sunset because I thought that brought the curtain down on the trilogy and that we were all going to move on and mature into other aspects of filmmaking..."

Oh you know that snip was specifically aimed at Lucas but here's the best part:

“We created Indiana Jones but it belongs to the world...”

God dammit, he 'gets it.' He really does.
DisneyJedi wrote:Is the Blu-ray transfer for the original trilogy any different from the 2004 DVD transfer of the original trilogy? In other words, does the picture look any different? I really REALLY wanna know. Please post any screencaps if you can for comparison.
It's the same transfers used for the DVDs that Lowry scanned in nearly 8 years ago. All the changes to the presentation found on the DVDs (e.g. the blue tint) are still there, with the only discernible difference between releases being the increased resolution and the additional alterations. Here's some examples I found:

Screenshot comparison of TESB. 2004 DVD vs. 2011 Blu-ray: http://screenshotcomparison.com/comp...9095/picture:0

Screenshot comparison of ROTJ. 2004 DVD vs. 2011 Blu-ray: http://screenshotcomparison.com/comp...9115/picture:0
From the recent interview at Ain't it Cool News, I get the feeling that Spielberg doesn't even like the altered E.T. anymore. It also seems that Spielberg has tried to talk Lucas into releasing the originals, but to no avail.
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BEST BUY drops price of Star Wars Saga to compete with Target and Wal-Mart. It was just announced that Best Buy will now sell the box set for $79.99, same as Target and four cents more than Wal-Mart.

Now we can put away our Target ads and just walk in the door at Best Buy and pick up the collection. Those lithographs that Target is offering are the same ones they had when the complete saga was released on DVD a few years ago, so I will still get my set at Best Buy.
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Smart move by BB knowing that they'd just be pricematching anyway (or losing a lot of sales). First time I've seen them drop a price nationally after publishing an ad with a higher price. Just shows what a major title this is and how much they could've lost with the highest price in town.
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I'm actually quite happy that BB has lowered their price. I've ordered it from them (with in store pick up) & a free T Shirt (which'll come by mail). I wasn't going to be able to pick it up at Target when they opened or BB for that matter. Unfortunately when the store opens I'll be having a catscan followed by a dr. apt & my 9th chemotherapy. Now I know when I get back home I'll have it waiting for me & I'll earn enough RZ points to put me close to a GC.
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lol I just realized that I don't know how much the store I got it from (it's called Saturday Matinee, which I think is owned by FYE too) is gonna be charging for the Blu-ray set. I didn't care at the time because it was the only place that was taking pre-orders when I was out that day.

It doesn't really matter because this set is gonna get watched PLENTY of times to justify the price ;)
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Really, the purists are kind of annoying me. Canceling a pre-order over the matter of a few itty-bitty changes is.... well....

To put it bluntly, that's just as pathetic of an excuse as refusing to buy Beauty and the Beast on Blu-ray, over the matter that its colors aren't 100% "accurate" to those of the theatrical/VHS release. Even though the Blu-ray's colors are at least CLOSER to the theatrical release's than the original DVD was.

God, it's purists like the ones who won't stop bitching and moaning over some tiny bite-sized changes that make me embarrassed to share the same fandom as them. :evil:
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The deleted scenes are going to be the best part. We've been waiting so long for a proper OT deleted scene section and we will now have it. 2 days to go!
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I don't blame people for making a fuss over the changes or the Originals. Although some have went too far.

Anyway I really don't mind the Special Editions or Lucas changing things, but he needs to provide the Originals as well. Other directors/studios do this, why can't he?

The set has some minor annoying changes, but I'll still pick it up eventually. Going to wait and see what prices are like closer to Black Friday. Also want to see what happens price wise with the UK set since its region free.
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DisneyJedi wrote:Really, the purists are kind of annoying me. Canceling a pre-order over the matter of a few itty-bitty changes is.... well....

To put it bluntly, that's just as pathetic of an excuse as refusing to buy Beauty and the Beast on Blu-ray, over the matter that its colors aren't 100% "accurate" to those of the theatrical/VHS release. Even though the Blu-ray's colors are at least CLOSER to the theatrical release's than the original DVD was.

God, it's purists like the ones who won't stop bitching and moaning over some tiny bite-sized changes that make me embarrassed to share the same fandom as them. :evil:
While I will still be buying the saga on Blu-ray, you have to realize that some of these changes are a little more drastic than some arguments over color intentions.
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SpringHeelJack wrote:
DisneyJedi wrote:Really, the purists are kind of annoying me. Canceling a pre-order over the matter of a few itty-bitty changes is.... well....

To put it bluntly, that's just as pathetic of an excuse as refusing to buy Beauty and the Beast on Blu-ray, over the matter that its colors aren't 100% "accurate" to those of the theatrical/VHS release. Even though the Blu-ray's colors are at least CLOSER to the theatrical release's than the original DVD was.

God, it's purists like the ones who won't stop bitching and moaning over some tiny bite-sized changes that make me embarrassed to share the same fandom as them. :evil:
While I will still be buying the saga on Blu-ray, you have to realize that some of these changes are a little more drastic than some arguments over color intentions.
yeah, but they're also mere experimentation.

anyway the nonstop bitching. if they arent going to complain to his face, they have no right to complain at all. :angry:
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SpringHeelJack wrote: While I will still be buying the saga on Blu-ray, you have to realize that some of these changes are a little more drastic than some arguments over color intentions.
yeah, but they're also mere experimentation.

anyway the nonstop bitching. if they arent going to complain to his face, they have no right to complain at all. :angry:
It's not really "experimentation" if it's the only available way of viewing it in hi-def. Had George Lucas included a non-"NOOOOOOOOOOO" scene in ROTJ there really wouldn't be a debate.

Anyhow, I'm sure many of the people WOULD complain to Lucas' face, but it's not terribly likely that I'm going to see him at the Stop 'n Shop this weekend and be able to have a tête-à-tête in the produce section. By that logic, we shouldn't be able to complain about anything if we're not going to be able to deliver said arguments to the person they should be directed to. For example, Dusty would never be able to make Disney Essence complaints because he's not likely to have an audience with John Lasseter to address them directly.
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Well, needless to say, the ones who are wanting to boycotting the new release....

Well, I'm sorry, but those complainers need to GROW UP!

Tiny update: Okay, I realized only a day or two ago that Sebastian Shaw bit the big one back in 1994, ten years before the Star Wars trilogy hit DVD.

And... well, now that I think about it. Replacing him with Hayden Christensen in the end of 'Jedi' DOES kind of feel like a flip of the birdie.
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By the way, the review is now up on Blu-ray.com. http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Star-Wars ... 03/#Review
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Our Best Buy stores here in Wichita have just announced they will be open at midnight tonight for two hours in order to handle all those who pre-ordered the set, and those who want to come in and get it tonight!!!

I am ready to have a sleepless night, and start watching the Star Wars Saga tonight when I get home from Best Buy. Really excited about this!!!
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The new Vader "Nooo!"s are not neccessary as is a new Obi Wan howl or an extra large Jabba's palace door or a rock in front of R2 when he is hiding from the Tusken Raiders. But I can live with a couple of seconds of that sort of thing in exchange for getting this on Bluray. The review makes it sound pretty good but I wanted to get this anyway. I'd rather not have those changes but if that's it, well, it could have been worse. Plus look on the bright side, Empire didn't get any alterations.

Now where to get it, Target or Best Buy? Best Buy gives reward zone points and a t-shirt, Target, lithos. Price? The same now. Hmmm....
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I'm undecided on purchasing this set. I know it will be cheaper during this initial release week, but then they'll jack it up for the x-mas season.

Has anyone heard the sound quality, particularly of Episode IV? I remember Episode IV still sounding bad when the initial DVD set came out. Overall I was disappointed in the initial DVD release because there was a lack of bonus features on the 4th disc.
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