Aurora, Damsel in Distress or Heroine?

[2099net]

Neither of the female character in Cinderella,Alice In Wonderland and Peter Pan saved the world,they're just like Aurora,Sleeping Beauty has problems with the character but still,Aurora is a heroine.

No, but who says you have to save the world? How many Disney heroes have ever managed to save the world?

Look at Pinocchio, Bambi, Dumbo, 101 Dalmatians... all feature smaller, perhaps more meaningful victories than "saving the world". Saving the world only seems to be a modern requirement for being a Disney Hero.

And Tinker Bell (after initially betraying Peter) saves Peter. While Wendy, Alice and Cinderella all have more character and life than Aurora, and arguabley are more able to help themselves out of their predicaments than Aurora ever could.

[Sailor Eric]

I listen to Charnbog_Rocks,i just disagree,she is not a damsel in distress,she is a hero.
She gave on her love for her duty,that's brave enough for me.
Then Nobody will change my opinion,she is a hero,she's not a damsel in distress,she's not some Daphne,Fiona or Princess Peach,she's a hero,and yes,a damsel in distress is a bad thing,and it is like saying you hate her,the Princess is allways the hero of the story (exept Jasmine but she's not a damsel neither,she's a character like Nala),calling her a damsel in distress is insulting.

Yes! Aurora is a heroine if by heroine you mean she is the main character of the story! But she is not the type of heroine that saves anyone or anything or does something noble! She just is a heroine because she is the main character. Yes, she left her new love to be a princess, but that's not really so noble. Being a princess is much more comfortable than being a peasant girl with no friends except her "aunts" and forest animal friends. She wasn't even supposed to meet strangers!
As a princess, everybody would know her, she'd have new friends, a Prince, lots of money, a very big place to live in and so on. Therefore, here life would be easier, and her leaving her old life and love to attend her royal duty isn't such a big sacrifice in the end.

Even if being the heroine/main character, she can still be a damsel in distress. Haven't you been reading Chernabog_Rocks and my posts were we say she is in distress because of the curse?! I said she was in danger all her life because she could fall into the sleeping spell at any time. Again, even her parents thought she was in danger and therefore sent her away to the safest place with the three fairies! And Chernabog_Rocks made a REALLY good point I hadn't thought of! Maleficent DID say in the movie that she had her minions searching for Aurora all those 16 years! Being in danger of pricking herself with a spindle wheel to fall into a spell and having the evil guys looking for you is distressful!
And there is nothing wrong with being in distress! It wasn't Aurora's fault she was a "damsel in distress", it wasn't her fault that she got cursed!

And saying that she is a damsel in distress doesn't mean we hate her! Hey, her parents and the three good fairies knew that she was in a distressful position, yet they loved her! And I've always thought she is a damsel in distress and the main character of the story. And you know what? I LOVE her! Aurora is my favorite princess and probably Disney character and I looooooove her! She is such a darling and so dear to me even if I think she's a damsel in distress! She can be loved even if she is that!

[Ariel'sprince]

She is the main hero,i think it's brave to give up on your love for your duty then getting captured and try killing a dragon to get to a castle.
If it wasn't her fault,then how she's a damsel in distress? a damsel in distress allways get kidnapped and it's her fault.
They loved her and they didn't thought she was a damsel in distress,a witch cursed her and she didn't had any choise,she's not a damsel in distress,she's not Daphne,Fiona,Princess Peach or Ann Darrow.
If you love then why don't you think that she's a hero? a hero is not just a character that does everything,he's also a character that everything is around him.

[TheSequelOfDisney]

If it wasn't her fault,then how she's a damsel in distress? a damsel in distress allways get kidnapped and it's her fault.

OMG! (yes, I used it) You have this stereotypical damsel in distress stuck in your head and you aren't open to the facts of the matter. They do NOT have to be kidnapped. And it certainly isn't her fault that magic was placed upon her and she fell to her sleeping death. That goes to Maleficent, and unless you have Aurora and Maleficent mixed up, you have no idea what you are talking about. You need to get this "Damsels in distress must be kidnapped" thing out of your head and look at the subject matter head on. I don't think you have been reading into this, or you simply haven't read into this at all.

They loved her and they didn't thought she was a damsel in distress,a witch cursed her and she didn't had any choise,she's not a damsel in distress,she's not Daphne,Fiona,Princess Peach or Ann Darrow.
If you love then why don't you think that she's a hero? a hero is not just a character that does everything,he's also a character that everything is around him.

This just doesn't make any sense. I'm pretty sure that we all know that English is not your first language, but can at least try and spell and form sentences correctly. Honestly, this doesn't make any sense and I really can't say anything about this because I don't understand it. I suggest that you practice, or go to the previously-posted links and spruce up your English some so that the rest of us can (try) understand you.

[PeterPanfan]

Sequel, I *think* Ariel'sprince is trying to say that everyone loves to be around a hero, which is totally untrue!

Like, in Kim Possible, she saves the world in ever episode, yet a lot of people make fun of her.

You're so stuck on all these hero stereotypes. Get over it.

[Ariel'sprince]

A damsel in distress is spinless character that allways get kidnapped or put herself in those situation and not even a story hero,those character are Daphne,Fiona,Princess Peach and Ann Darow or whatever her you spell her last name (you know,the girl from King Kong?),Aurora is the hero of her story,even if she didn't rescued anyone,she just needs her own story,and she has one.

[TheSequelOfDisney]

A damsel in distress is spinless character that allways get kidnapped or put herself in those situation and not even a story hero,those character are Daphne,Fiona,Princess Peach and Ann Darow or whatever her you spell her last name (you know,the girl from King Kong?),Aurora is the hero of her story,even if she didn't rescued anyone,she just needs her own story,and she has one.

I don't even know why we try. This is obviously a lost cause since we say one thing in one of Ariel'sprince's ear, and it goest out the other. You need to get over the stereotypical damsel in distress. You just need to get over it. It is not that hard to understand that a girl doesn't have to be kidnapped to be a damsel in distress. This is my last post here as it seems that a simple, easily understandable concept cannot get through your hard-headed ways. And by the way, always only has one l.

[Sailor Eric]

She is the main hero,i think it's brave to give up on your love for your duty then getting captured and try killing a dragon to get to a castle.
If it wasn't her fault,then how she's a damsel in distress? a damsel in distress allways get kidnapped and it's her fault.
They loved her and they didn't thought she was a damsel in distress,a witch cursed her and she didn't had any choise,she's not a damsel in distress,she's not Daphne,Fiona,Princess Peach or Ann Darrow.
If you love then why don't you think that she's a hero? a hero is not just a character that does everything,he's also a character that everything is around him.

The three fairies and her parents DID think she was a damsel in distress! They didn't call her that, of course, but they knew that she was a girl in danger, they knew her life was in distress because she could fall into Maleficent's curse!
I love her, but I don't have to see her as a heroine. I can see her as a heroine that everything revolves around her (like the story of her movie and the actions of other characters), in other words, as the main female character of the story. However, I don't think she's the heroine (the type that saves someone, defeats evil, or does something good) in the story of Sleeping Beauty. Yes, she did give up on her love, but that is not the important thing in her story. The important, or main thing about "Sleeping Beauty" is that the princess falls into the sleeping spell and has to be awakened by true love's kiss.
By the way, what Philip did was greater than what Aurora did. Aurora left her love, but many people in stories and real life have done that for many reasons that may be innocent, but hurt. However, Philip almost got killed by "facing a dragon and going to a castle." And are you forgetting why he faced the dragon and had to go to the castle? He was doing it to get to the one he loves, the girl he met in the forest. In other words, he could have gotten killed to go be with the one he loves; life is a big sacrifice. And he also faced the dragon and went to the castle to wake her up! To rescue her from being asleep forever and from doing nothing the rest of her life! That is certainly a great, noble thing to do for someone.
I've already said two or three times why Aurora is a damsel in distress. I won't repeat myself anymore.

[Disney Duster]

Aw, Chernabog, thank you for asking for me! You're sweet. Well, I have kind of skimmed through this thing and because some people just repeat things, other people just have to repeat things back. I don't know how to stop the vicious cycle.

I, too, will capslock in hopes it make people pay attention to me. But in this thread lots of people are capslocking. It's like everyone's posts are getting lost. Heh, including a few I've put in.

I like how you tried to explain Ariel'sprince has one definition and not seeing the other and all that. Uh, I'm juts not comment on everything, though, and tell you that you are not crazy, Ariel'sprince actually brought Aurora saving the day in Enchanted Tales.

I think nightmares could matter in making Aurora more distressed, more in need of being saved because she doesn't want to be trapped in nightmares. I mean, sleeping is a good thing, but not if you can't wake up from it. I say she's being saved from what would end up very horrible for her, because she would eventually want to stop sleeping.

As for Phillip, even the fairies removed some thorns for him. But his True Love was necessary. I actualy think Phillip is a human prop in the way people said Aurora was. He's like a puppet the faires control to get their princess. But he had courage and determination and True Love in him, and he could have bailed on them, so he's heroic in that way, similar to what you said. The message could be "the fairies are powerful enough once they combine with a man or once they combine with True Love". I'd like to think the less sexist "True Love".

And so, Aurora not bailing on the fairies and her parents is also heroic if she was afraid of what would happen to her. Basically she was going to do something she didn't want to do for other people, and she could have bailed. So she and Phillip didn't bail, and that's heroic. You're job theory was good, I suppose accepting your duty and going to save someone are different, because you are more expected to take a job than go save your True Love...but you'd still be called a selfish coward for not saving your True Love just like they would think Aurora selfish for not becoming the princess. Okay, I admit it, Phillip's going to save Aurora was more heroic.

Netty, thanks for all you said including my favorite Disney "damsel". Haha, at my own expense, Disney Damsels!

[UmbrellaFish]

This thing grows two pages a day!

And nothing is added to the discussion!


Have to say though, I feel like some people are picking on ariels'prince. Not because they differ in their opinions, but because they are just getting annoyed. I like ariels'prince! I think he's a great member!



So, what do I think about this discussion? Aurora is both! Phillip is both! The fairies are both!

[Someday...]

Someday: Where are you getting nightmares from and even dreams for that matter? Dreams/Nightmares have nothing to do with being helpless, perhaps IN your dream yes but that's a different matter entirely. Aurora, while asleep is PHYSICALLY helpless, it's not like she can wake up and slap someone trying to harm her.

oh,
arielsprince was saying something about how being asleep is not like being trapped, then someone else mentioned nightmares she could be having.
(Ill look for the post for you if I get time)
so I was watching the movie today and it said she was "dreaming of true love in slumber repose" twice, from maleficent and the chorus.

and thank you for the intelligent post, its nice to have some substance to this thread (seeing as I don't add too much )

[Someday...]

What's so helpless about resting? and dreaming?.

What if she was having nightmares ?? ?? Trapped in an awful dream and unable to escape ?? ??

thats the one ^

[SleepingBeautyAurora]

"Behold - King Stephan's castle. And in yonder top most tower, dreaming of her true love, the Princess Aurora." - Maleficent

I agree with you Someday, she definitely isn't having nightmares. When Phillip kisses her and she wakes up there is no sign that she was having a nightmare. If she was having nightmares the sleeping curse would be much worse though. I havn't seen the movie in years so I apologize.

[UmbrellaFish]

"Behold - King Stephan's castle. And in yonder top most tower, dreaming of her true love, the Princess Aurora." - Maleficent

I agree with you Someday, she definitely isn't having nightmares. When Phillip kisses her and she wakes up there is no sign that she was having a nightmare. If she was having nightmares the sleeping curse would be much worse though. I havn't seen the movie in years so I apologize.

I've always thought she was having plesant dreams. All about her true love. Maybe that's just one of those things you hear, but you think you came up with.

This thread has really made me want to watch Sleeping Beauty. Maybe I'll borrow it from my cousins.

[SleepingBeautyAurora]

This thread has really made me want to watch Sleeping Beauty.

ME TOO !!!!

[Super Aurora]

Super Aurora-you're the one in delusional world,and i meant that i don't care if somone thinks she's a damsel

If that's was really the case, then this thread would of been over by then.

becouse i know she's not,you can keep making the wrong view of posts but that's not the truth .

You mean "think". Stop declaring your opinion is a fact.

And you wonder why some people don't respect you on this forum....

This is getting out of hand.

You just realize that? I knew this will happen the moment Ariel's Prince press the first letter on the keyboard.

It's an Ariel'sprince thread, what did you expect? He can't handle people having different opinions from his own.

Which is why we are running in circles faster than Olympic marathon track runner.

[Someday...]

to try and bring some discussion back here,
I was wondering what people thought of the "hero" Prince Phillip's decision to boycott his royal duties completely and run off with a girl he met for 10 minutes.
Seems a bit selfish to me [/u]

[Super Aurora]

to try and bring some discussion back here,
I was wondering what people thought of the "hero" Prince Phillip's decision to boycott his royal duties completely and run off with a girl he met for 10 minutes.
Seems a bit selfish to me [/u]

He was doing the right thing because I finally found a hot girl he could get it on with. I know I would, if I was in his position.

[Someday...]

to try and bring some discussion back here,
I was wondering what people thought of the "hero" Prince Phillip's decision to boycott his royal duties completely and run off with a girl he met for 10 minutes.
Seems a bit selfish to me [/u]

He was doing the right thing because I finally found a hot girl he could get it on with. I know I would, if I was in his position.

im sure he didnt have the best view of aurora either, since he made the
"eww girls" face at her as a baby

[MagicMirror]

It's worth noting that Ariel did exactly what Prince Philip did - does this make her less of a heroine?