Tangled! (The Artist Formerly Known As Rapunzel)

[Candy-Bonita95]

I'm beginning to get really good vibes about this movie. I really like how "flat" Rapunzel's face looks. I just don't understand why her face looks flat and Flynn's doesnt.

She has the Ariel or Kirsten Dunst type baby face which suits her personality.Flynn is more macho and confident so he has the Glen Keane manly style .(Big nose,perfect chin. ah!just too sexy! )

[blackcauldron85]

Amy, it's not concept art, watch the video in the link. She just painted it because she loves the character and is a visual development artist for the film, who apparently did Rapunzel's tower wall paintings.

Thanks for letting me know- I just watched it! Oh, and in the picture of Rapunzel & Flynn, you can tell that she has green eyes, so maybe Ms. Keane just liked brown eyes, or maybe they had developed her with brown eyes at one point...?

[PatrickvD]

I just realized Disney is releasing two high profile big budget film this December with a main character named Flynn.

Tron: Legacy and Rapunzel.

[robster16]

First pic of Mother Gothel? A screencap of some documentary with a look inside the Disney Animation Studios building with a picture of a woman that could very well be Gothel guarding the door... I found the cap on that italian disney forum

[PatrickvD]

I thought she used the magic in Rapunzel's hair to look young?

Clearly our first bit of concept art.

[robster16]

I thought she used the magic in Rapunzel's hair to look young?

Clearly our first bit of concept art.

Could be that this is a depiction of her before her visit to Rapunzel and her rejuvination process. Either way, she'd have to look older then Rapunzel to be believable as a mother figure.

On the forum I found this picture they say that it's a custom to have posters hanging at doors to area's where people have restricted access with pictures of characters that transmit a sense of fear. During the production of Princess and the Frog they used a picture of Dr. Facilier. So this must be indeed a piece of concept art for Gothel.

Just as I had imagined her to look, an elegant, thin, yet frightening woman. Slightly remniscent to the great female Disney villains, The Queen from Snow White, Lady Tremaine and Maleficent

[PatrickvD]

She kinda looks how Lady Tremaine would have looked had Cinderella been a Tim Burton film. Very Nightmare/Corpse Bride-ish.

I do like it. But since it's concept art it doesn't really tell us anything. I'm sure Ursula was a mermaid as well at some point in the visual development stage. In other words, it can and probably will change drastically.

[Super Aurora]

She kinda looks how Lady Tremaine would have looked had Cinderella been a Tim Burton film. Very Nightmare/Corpse Bride-ish.

I do like it. But since it's concept art it doesn't really tell us anything. I'm sure Ursula was a mermaid as well at some point in the visual development stage. In other words, it can bad probably will change drastically.

I think it's the clothes she's wearing that makes it appear so. They have that Victorian style clothes where it reaches to the neck.

[Wonderlicious]

I really hate to sound like a party pooper but I honestly don't think that is Gothel. The film - at least from the images and concept art that we have - seem to allude to a 17th/18th century setting, and the snippet of the dress we see there looks a bit too Victorian or Edwardian to me.

That's only what I think though.

[Disney Duster]

Well, Cinderella was supposed to be set in the late 17th century, or whatever time would be given by the descriptions from Perrault, but the films was set in the time of King Louis XIV according to a background artist, but some people say the costumes look more 18th or 19th century, including Lady Tremaine's.

I could understand a fantasy kingdom having fantasy costumes even though set in a real time, if even that. Or the fairy tale characters set in the that time dressed differently than all the other people of that time, in their own unique style. They aren't ordinary people.

Besides, it could be a concept from when they were still deciding what the time, place, and costumes would be.

But she looks a lot like what already seemed to be the real earliest look of Mother Gothel:



Also, it seems that at one time Flynn may have been faithful to the original story as a Prince, as Rapunzel finds his crown. No, wait, maybe the bandit stole that crown!

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But in any case, I found Flynn a lot cuter in some previous pictures. More thick and round and boyish, aw. But I like that they have keep the very unique sleeves design for Rapunzel through almost all of her concepts:

[robster16]

Something I only just noticed in the pictures that were just posted is that in the black and white storysketch Gothel is holding a portrait of Flynn in her hands, with a bag in the front. In the bag there seems to be a golden crown. In other pics you can see Rapunzel sitting on the floor, with an unconscios Flynn laying next to her, holding the bag in one hand and the crown in the another hand.

Hmmm...

[Margos]

If they keep that concept art as Mother Gothel's design, I will be very pleased! She looks suitably creepy, but not exactly evil or frightening. Just a little.... foreboding. It's perfect!

[robster16]

According to someone on that italian forum the concept art for Mother Gothel dates back to the Glen Keane and Dean Wellins directed version and has since then been completely changed.

He also says it's weird why Disney is advertising this as a comedy, because the comedy is more subtle & intelligent then Princess and the Frog and the story contains equally as much drama, adventure and romance. According to him the story is also nicely fleshed out with actually story bits and not filled with useless filler moments to add to the total length of the movie.

He also say that we might possibly get new images of Rapunzel and other characters during the international toy fair in Nuremberg Germany which takes place between february 4 - 9. And there will be a toy fair in New York on february 14th, so by that time we should have new imagery for sure!

[robster16]

Mandy Moore chatting about doing the voice for Rapunzel:

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[blackcauldron85]

Thanks so much for posting that, Rob!

It's interesting that Mandy doesn't consider her work in Brother Bear 2 to be a proper voice-over (maybe just because it wasn't theatrical?).

[DisneyPrincessSyndrome]

It was confirmed that a trailer will appear on The Princess and the Frog dvd/Blu-ray. So if not with Alice, that's when we'll get our first glimpse I guess.

Hah! I knew it! I was totally speculating that in my post a few pages back. I love it when I predict things. I also predicted that Princess and the Frog would come out really close to my mom's birthday and my spring break and I was right. I was also right that stupid New Moon would be released on a Saturday in March.

Damn, I need a life.

I agree. Disney has waited a remarkably long time (too long in our minds) in releasing ANY kind of promotional pictures from Rapunzel. For weeks now, I've been staring and staring and staring at that image of Flynn tied up in the chair, with his Tulio-like grin. I even made that image my computer's screen saver!

I did too! I took it down, though, because Sleeping Beauty's anniversary is today and I put an SB wallpaper as my background.

[robster16]

Apparently someone saw the trailer on an online survey. They posted about it on imdb and I sent him/her an email with some questions regarding it. Here's the reply I got:

I just took the survey today. its on the website http://www.utalkback.com/home.do. so you might have a chance of seeing it if they let you. It was a entertainment survey. The trailer wasnt fully done. it sometimes look like a really old cartoon or it be black and white at some points, but you can hear everything clearly. I was expecting the trailer to be finish but i guess not. and yes it looked magical and you mainly saw rapunzel and Zachary levi character. ALso it wasnt called rapunzal it was something like hidden tower i can't remeber.

I'm trying to get more info. The survey website is invitation only, but the story could be plausible. I wonder about the movie title. "Rapunzel" has much more instant recognizability then something about the tower, which is apparently only part of the first act of the movie. Maybe they gave it that title to throw people off and not have lots of info leak, who knows.

If I find out more, I'll let you guys know!

[Wonderlicious]

Well, Cinderella was supposed to be set in the late 17th century, or whatever time would be given by the descriptions from Perrault, but the films was set in the time of King Louis XIV according to a background artist, but some people say the costumes look more 18th or 19th century, including Lady Tremaine's.

I don't want to seem too argumentative (plus, it'd be getting off topic), but as someone with quite a knowledge on history, there really is no way that any of those costumes could have come from the reign of the Sun King. I understand that the original story was written in the late 1690s, and I also understand trying to carbon-date settings in Disney films is a bit hopeless (which somewhat renders this conversation meaningless...hmm). However, based on the interiors and the fashionings, Cinderella appears to be set in the first half of the 19th century (and before anyone says "oh, but there were no kings in France!" - something equally applicable to Beauty and the Beast - Napoleon became Emperor of the French in 1804 and after the end of the Napoleonic wars, a constitutional monarchy was reinstated in France). I don't want to be mean, but I doubt that background artist had much historical knowledge.

And I doubt that Disney are going to change the title. It probably might be to throw people off and to prevent them from reporting about the trailer online. They would probably at least keep Rapunzel in the title (even if it means such silly titles as "Rapunzel and the Hidden Tower", "Rapunzel and the Bandit", "Rapunzel the Great Princess Detective" or "The Many Adventures of Rapunzel the Pooh"). I think that the concept of calling it "Hidden Tower" is just market research, much like how that trailer would have been.

[Disney Duster]

You may be right Wondy that the guy didn't have as much historical knowledge, or maybe he didn't think it needed to be that much because it was still a made-up kingdom and people and story. But there were also mentions of going for baroque style and such.

To me the story is set during the 1600's, but it is a made up kingdom with it's own costumes. And yes, they seem like other times costumes but they just fit enough into some fantastical fantasy version of the 1600's. I like to think it was a unique kingdom. But the architecture is supposed to be the time of the Louis XIV, though I suppose the buildings from that time would have styaed there while they changed the interiors.

But since the costumes, and the castle and cheateau, never really existed in any time, they aren't clearly one way or the other, and so I can believe they were in a very unique kingdom near France in the 1600's! And I still think the costumes look enough like from the 1600's, from what I have seen of 17th century stuff, but...also, it could be that it was 1690 and so new 18th century-looking fashions were coming out! But I'm pretty sure King Louis XIV was Perrault's time as well.

[Candy-Bonita95]

Apparently someone saw the trailer on an online survey. They posted about it on imdb and I sent him/her an email with some questions regarding it. Here's the reply I got:

I just took the survey today. its on the website http://www.utalkback.com/home.do. so you might have a chance of seeing it if they let you. It was a entertainment survey. The trailer wasnt fully done. it sometimes look like a really old cartoon or it be black and white at some points, but you can hear everything clearly. I was expecting the trailer to be finish but i guess not. and yes it looked magical and you mainly saw rapunzel and Zachary levi character. ALso it wasnt called rapunzal it was something like hidden tower i can't remeber.

I'm trying to get more info. The survey website is invitation only, but the story could be plausible. I wonder about the movie title. "Rapunzel" has much more instant recognizability then something about the tower, which is apparently only part of the first act of the movie. Maybe they gave it that title to throw people off and not have lots of info leak, who knows.

If I find out more, I'll let you guys know!

Thanks Rob!Although I'm a little mad(not at you) at the website.I can't see it unless i have an invitation.The big problem is IT'S BLOODY IMPOSSIBLE TO GET AN INVITATION!