Fantasia/F2K: 2-Movie Collection Discussion: Nov. 30, 2010

[The_Iceflash]

Good thing I buy BD's now.

I completely sympathize with DVD-only purchasers. 5 months is a really long time. I remember being mad with the wait for Snow White. I can't imagine how mad I would have been if it were a 5 month wait.

[Lorddh]

Great minds think alike

Lol, where have you been all my life

Waiting for you! ;p

[DarthPrime]

5 months is a long time. However the BD combo will probably be cheaper than the DVD release if Disney continues the coupons for combo packs. All companies are pushing Blu-ray. Best Buy is even starting to phase out DVDs in my area.

I rarely buy DVDs now, but I like combo packs. The extra DVD is a lot more useful to me than a digital copy. I know several other people that have switched completely to Blu-ray that still enjoy the combo packs.

[BelleGirl]

I've seen that a special edition DVD containing Fantasia/Fantasia 2000 is available from Amazon.com. Just the thing for me. Anyone knows what bonus features it contains? The amazon.co.uk lists this also, but as "currently unavailable". Will there be a a region 2 dvd of this edition?

If I buy it I will double-dip "Fantasia', but the bonus features on the 1-disc edition I currently own are as minimal as can be (just one deleted segment).

[stitchje1981]

Lol, where have you been all my life

Waiting for you! ;p

EXCELLENT

[stitchje1981]

I've seen that a special edition DVD containing Fantasia/Fantasia 2000 is available from Amazon.com. Just the thing for me. Anyone knows what bonus features it contains? The amazon.co.uk lists this also, but as "currently unavailable". Will there be a a region 2 dvd of this edition?

If I buy it I will double-dip "Fantasia', but the bonus features on the 1-disc edition I currently own are as minimal as can be (just one deleted segment).

I have no idea BelleGirl, before I read this thread I didn't even know there was gonna be a blu for Fantasia + Fantasia 2K

[miniroll32]

Play.com are now selling a Chernabog model in their gadgets section;

http://www.play.com/Gadgets/Gadgets/4-/ ... oduct.html#

Pretty expensive for what it is.... Looks rather snazzy though!

[Raphdude]

Play.com are now selling a Chernabog model in their gadgets section;

http://www.play.com/Gadgets/Gadgets/4-/ ... oduct.html#

Pretty expensive for what it is.... Looks rather snazzy though!

Miniroll,

Very cool. Sideshow always makes good stuff although it is expensive!

BTW, if you happen to see the back cover or a pic of it on the net of the Fantasia blu before it comes out, can you please let us know what region code it is? The Danish one lists ABC, which means it can be played anywhere, and I'm hoping the UK one will be the same!
Cheers,
Raphdude

P.S. Miniroll, please check your PM. Thanks.

[miniroll32]

Ralphdude;

Fantasia is being released here in the UK on the 8th of November. I'll be posting photos on the day for all to look at

[BwayJ]

Well, here's the press release for the combo set. Looks like we're still only getting "Destino" for the shorts.

http://www.toonzone.net/news/articles/3 ... -amp-docus

Fantasia DVD Bonus Features:

New Audio Commentary with Disney historian Brian Sibley
Disney Family Museum (running time: approx. 5 minutes) – Walt’s daughter Diane Disney-Miller takes viewers on a tour of the new Disney Family Museum in San Francisco, California featuring a very large exhibit on Fantasia and most importantly, the Schultheis notebook with long lost Fantasia production notes found in more recent years in the walls of a convent.

Fantasia Blu-ray Bonus Features: Everything on the DVD plus:

Disney View – This viewing mode maximizes the Blu-ray viewing experience with a 16 x 9 aspect ratio. Original artwork created by a Disney artist, in a style that complements the beauty of the film.
The Shultheis Notebook: A Disney Treasure (running time: approx. 14 minutes) –An in depth look at the recently discovered Schultheis Notebook. The detailed log was created by Herman Schultheis, an effects man on Fantasia, and intricately breaks down the film from a technical view. Many of the special effects used in Fantasia were a mystery to modern day animators until this notebook was recovered.
Interactive Art Gallery and Screensavers – Viewers can explore the artwork of Fantasia as never before, in HD resolution with unique Blu-ray interactivity and programming.
Audio Commentaries from Fantasia Legacy Collection o With executive producer Roy E. Disney, conductor James Levine, animation historian John Canemaker, and Scott McQueen, manager of film restoration.
Audio commentary with interviews and story note recreations by Walt Disney, hosted by John Canemaker.

Fantasia 2000 DVD Bonus Features:

Musicana – Walt’s Inspiration for a Sequel (running time: approx. 10 minutes) – This documentary reveals rarely-seen art created for Musicana, a late 1970’s project intended as a Fantasia sequel with a focus on exploring other cultures via their greatest musical compositions. Viewers are offered a look at the origins of pieces that were started by Walt, such as “The Emperor and the Nightingale” which was then taken over by a very young John Lasseter. Ultimately, Musicana was stopped to begin production on “Mickey’s Christmas Carol,” but the memories of this piece still live on with the animators who conceived it.

Fantasia 2000 Blu-ray Bonus Features: Everything on the DVD plus:

Dali & Disney: A Date With Destino (running time: 82 minutes) – This feature length documentary explores the collaborative relationship between Walt Disney and Salvador Dali, revealing how and why the Destino short came to fruition under the lead of Roy E. Disney in 2003 so many years after its inception in 1946.
Destino (running time: approx. 7 minutes) – The legacy of Walt Disney and Salvador Dali lives on in this highly anticipated short film.
Disney’s Virtual Vault -- BD-Live Feature Original DVD Bonus Features from Legacy Collection
Audio Commentaries from Fantasia Legacy Collection (total running time: 84 minutes) With executive producer Roy E. Disney, conductor James Levine, and producer Don Ernst. Audio commentary with the directors and art directors for each segment.

[miniroll32]

Upcoming Fantasia now available on Torrent 720p (6.5GB)

http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/5899194 ... 264-BestHD

Unfortunately I can't get many peers on my download, but I made a copy of the file before and had a play back of what's downloaded so far (up to the opening speech by Taylor) and the quality is great. Nice natural film grain - something that I've been wondering about because this film, unlike past Lowry restorations for Disney, contains quite a bit of live action so makes a nice change.

The colour timing is fantastic too, it brings out many details I hadn't seen before. When the curtains open at the beginning of the film, there is more definition in where the light is being casted onto the blue backdrop.

If you can't download it all, i'd say just take a chunk and have a play back to get a taster. Even I don't want to spoil the surprise come the Blu-Ray

[jpanimation]

Looks like we're still only getting "Destino" for the shorts.

I'm not surprised.

(up to the opening speech by Taylor)

Is it actually Deems Taylor or still Corey Burton?

[miniroll32]

Burton still on the audio track

[miniroll32]

Here is a quick comparison of the opening shots - The left image is the new 720p version, the right is from the DVD copy;



Note how the RGB colour timing makes a lot more sense. On a big screen, you can get a real sense of texture in that background - making it look more like what it actually is, which is a studio

[blackcauldron85]

Fantasia 2000 DVD Bonus Features:

Musicana – Walt’s Inspiration for a Sequel

This alone probably isn't worth a double-dip, right?

Dali & Disney: A Date With Destino

Destino

But had these been included on the DVD version, it'd be a no-brainer. Ugh, Blu-ray, you're killing me!

I wish that the Treasures were still being made, or the Legacy Collection...Destino would have had its own set...

[Mr. Yagoobian]

I wish that the Treasures were still being made, or the Legacy Collection...Destino would have had its own set...

I dunno. Wasn't the hypothetical Destino Treasures release canned before the Treasures line was officially pronounced dead?

Don't get me wrong, I would have bought it---I've been waiting for this film for a long time. But building a 2-disc set around a short less than 10 minutes long seemed like a bit of a stretch.

[blackcauldron85]

I dunno. Wasn't the hypothetical Destino Treasures release canned before the Treasures line was officially pronounced dead?

Um, I don't remember. But people would have double-dipped...I mean, why include it on the Blu-ray...from a business perspective, the people who want the Destino material would pay extra for it, hence its own Treasure or Legacy Collection set.

But building a 2-disc set around a short less than 10 minutes long seemed like a bit of a stretch.

But 82 minute documentary! That's longer than some Disney films!

[DisneyJedi]

Well, here's the press release for the combo set. Looks like we're still only getting "Destino" for the shorts.

Ugh! There they go again! Don said the other shorts WOULD be on there! God, I am SO sick of them doing this! All they ever do is promise something, but they don't go through with it! It's completely unfair!!

I say we form an angry mob outside of the studios and not leave until they give us those other shorts! Unless they're planning to release those shorts on a different release.

[Mr. Yagoobian]

I dunno. Wasn't the hypothetical Destino Treasures release canned before the Treasures line was officially pronounced dead?

Um, I don't remember. But people would have double-dipped...I mean, why include it on the Blu-ray...from a business perspective, the people who want the Destino material would pay extra for it, hence its own Treasure or Legacy Collection set.

But building a 2-disc set around a short less than 10 minutes long seemed like a bit of a stretch.

But 82 minute documentary! That's longer than some Disney films!

But the question is, would *enough* people have sprung for a Destion Treasures release to make it worthwhile for the company to offer it? And I think the answer is "no." Treasures weren't released in massive numbers to begin with, and the last couple waves were, what, 30-40,000 units? If, for example, they can't sell out of the Rarities or the second volumes of Mickey in color or Mickey in B&W or the first Pluto collection, in 5 or 6 years' time---and we're talking hours' worth of known quantities, classic vintage one-offs and cartoons featuring characters that helped build an empire---then where's the demonstrated interest from the Disney fan consumer base that's gonna spend money on a 2-disc set built around an esoteric surrealist seven-minute short that hardly anyone has ever seen?

[miniroll32]

For anyones interest;

http://www.homemediamagazine.com/blu-ra ... sics-20927

Disney's daughter talks about the release