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I can't believe a Wrecked Princess movie is actually a possibility. :facepalm:
The movie will be the first to feature all of the classic characters together, and since that fact was revealed last year there has been conversation about their potential future. Could the ensemble regroup to carry their own feature? Directors Rich Moore and Phil Johnston believe that it's a concept that's definitely on the table:

Phil Johnston: Someone could do it, yeah.

Rich Moore: Definitely. It's, again, it depends on how the audience reacts to it...

Phil Johnston: And what's the story? It's always that for me. If there's a good story to be told...

Rich Moore: You can see where in their friendships, where there could be good electricity between a bunch of characters. So never say never, man!
Source: https://www.cinemablend.com/news/246081 ... s-weigh-in
Q: All we want for Christmas is Rich Moore to announce that Disney is planning to make a Princesses Avengers movie because that scene in Ralph Breaks the Internet was absolutely EPIC and we're craving for more feminism like that!

Rich Moore: Hmmm...I like the sound of that!
Source: https://twitter.com/_rich_moore/status/ ... 1590598657


They already did a continuation with the mini-comic Heart from the Start, Eyes on the Prize that's part of the graphic novel "Click Start: A Select-Your-Story Adventure" published by Dark Horse Comics. Fittingly, it's written and illustrated by Amy Mebberson, the artist who created the webcomic "Pocket Princesses". Disney totally "borrowed" her concept for this movie, by the way. All of this can't be a coincidence.
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The was going to be a Sword in the Stone reference during the "A Place Called Slaughter Race" sequence.
Q: Quick question regarding this Funko Pop! Vanellope is holding a sword, but I don't believe she had one in the movie. Is it from a scene that was cut?

Rich Moore: Yep, there was a moment during her song that she pulled a sword out of a barrel of toxic waste a la “The Sword in the Stone”. Unfortunately it was cut.

Q: Is this cut scene on the DVD?

Rich Moore: It was never animated— only in storyboards.
Source: https://twitter.com/_rich_moore/status/ ... 1870113792
Q: Did Disney think it broke the integrity of her character or something?

Rich Moore: No. Some lyrics in the song changed and it didn’t make sense.
Source: https://twitter.com/_rich_moore/status/ ... 4097368064
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Oooooh, that sounds exciting. That could be something interesting, if done properly and carefully.
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Between this and making Cruella the dog killer an inspirational role model.... :roll:
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D82 wrote:Here's the music video for the Spanish version of "In This Place":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zw6ytsfaMto
The music video for the Latin American version of the song has been released as well.
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^Thanks for sharing!
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Sotiris wrote:I can't believe a Wrecked Princess movie is actually a possibility. :facepalm:
Not surprised at all by this. You really expect them to announce an Original Feature from Walt Disney Animation Studios? The last person to attempt that was Nathen Greno, & he don't work there anymore :P
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I wouldn't mind a Wrecked Princesses film if their designs hadn't been uglified. I'm not talking about the new, modern, comfy clothes. That's fine. I'm talking about the changes to their faces (mouths, faces, eyes, eyebrows, and so on).

I guess I don't get the overreaction that's been going on over the princesses scene, but I'm too ambivalent to debate anyone. I know WIR and its sequel(s) are destined for the garbage heap of history, so nothing they do to the princesses will do lasting harm the original films of the princesses. And the Disney Princess line has already bastardized a lot of things about the way people see them anyway; this film isn't really harming them as much as that has. *shrug* I dunno. If they had just looked like themselves, I could get on board with a WP film.

How cool would it be though if a WP film included Menken in charge of the soundtrack and we got Menken songs for SW, Cinderella, Aurora, Tiana, and/or Mulan?
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Yes, Menken songs for such princesses would be a dream!
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Saw the movie yesterday (with Rich Moore and Phil Johnston) and I kinda loved it? I have to see again in a proper theatre and the dubbing cast was a bit off during the whole movie (they sound good, just not anything like they did in the first movie). Oh My Disney is just EVERYTHING I THOUGHT I WOULD HATE and it was refreshing not to see a surprise villain for the 10th movie in a row. Bye Bye Lasseter. Also have to listen the song in English to see what I think about it..

After the movie they showed us some info about the production, like their research trip and some test footage (a lot of cat videos done by Disney Animation hahaha), as well as some stuff about some characters, especially Yesss (because she has the most awesome coat and hair); We also saw lots of pencil drawings for the princesses and stuff like that.
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Interview with Alan Menken. This marks the first (and so far only) time he has done press for the movie.

Here are a couple of excerpts from the interview I wanted to comment on.
Q: Alan, what was your reaction when they came to you?

Alan Menken: The way it started was there was a song I wrote over 10 years ago, a big opening number for a project that was going and then it went back into development. The song became one of those lost classic numbers that people loved and would listen to the demo. And Tom [MacDougall] found the track for that, wiped away the lyrics and said, “This music is perfect.” So they started with that piece of music, added their lyrics to it and said, “What do you think?” I said, “You can’t use that song, because I might still use it. But I’ll go back, knowing that that’s the style of Menken that you want, and I will give you a brand new version of that.”
It's interesting they originally wanted to re-use the music from a discarded song. I wonder for what project was the song for. He said it was from ten years ago for a film that went back into development. Could it be a something from The Snow Queen? The timing matches. It's a shame we'll never get to listen to those songs. It must have been really good for people at WDAS to keep listening to it after all these years.
Q: Is it strange to be asked to write in, as you say, “Alan Menken” as a genre?

Alan Menken: On the one hand, it’s flattering. When they say, “Give us something that’s like that thing you did before,” you hope that in your career you’re gonna have that kind of impact. On other other hand no, it’s not my favorite kind of assignment. I’d love to have something new at Disney animation, if they ever want me to come back.
He seems so heartbroken that WDAS didn't give him another movie after his success with Tangled. :(
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Aww Alan ! "If they ever want me to come back" .. crazy sad.

I hope with the joy and buzz over the song he created for the film, he is asked back again for anything Disney may be cooking up. They used him for BATB live action, so Disney Animation just needs to follow suit !
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Sotiris wrote: Alan Menken: The way it started was there was a song I wrote over 10 years ago, a big opening number for a project that was going and then it went back into development. The song became one of those lost classic numbers that people loved and would listen to the demo. And Tom [MacDougall] found the track for that, wiped away the lyrics and said, “This music is perfect.” So they started with that piece of music, added their lyrics to it and said, “What do you think?” I said, “You can’t use that song, because I might still use it. But I’ll go back, knowing that that’s the style of Menken that you want, and I will give you a brand new version of that.”

Alan Menken: On the one hand, it’s flattering. When they say, “Give us something that’s like that thing you did before,” you hope that in your career you’re gonna have that kind of impact. On other other hand no, it’s not my favorite kind of assignment. I’d love to have something new at Disney animation, if they ever want me to come back.
He doesn't sound very inspired from this interview which may explain why the song really does sound like a generic derivative of his classic works and doesn't really stand out. Sounds like he wants a little more meat to chew on as a composer. I hope Disney gives him that opportunity.

What I found most intriguing is that he said that whatever song was originally picked, he felt he might still use that somewhere. Wonder what project that could be.
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JeanGreyForever wrote:
DisneyEra wrote: It's basically doing Moana numbers domestic. I'd think Disney was expecting more from a $175 million sequel. Meanwhile Grinch has passed over $200 million domestic. I heard the sequel will have to do atleast $215 million just to match the original's $189 adjusted for inflation. To early to see if it can break-out overseas.
That's heartening to hear. I'm glad that The Grinch is giving it a run for its money.
what Disney is going to take away from this is that the only reason people are watching this movie is for the Wrecked Princesses, so of course they're making a WP movie. Except for Vanellope and Ralph (who I could see as supporting characters in a WP film)I doubt we'll see anything of the supporting WIR cast ever again, which is really crappy. :down:
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Sotiris wrote:It's interesting they originally wanted to re-use the music from a discarded song. I wonder for what project was the song for. He said it was from ten years ago for a film that went back into development. Could it be a something from The Snow Queen? The timing matches. It's a shame we'll never get to listen to those songs. It must have been really good for people at WDAS to keep listening to it after all these years.
Really interesting. I would love to hear that song, I'm so envious of the Disney employees who have access to it! I hope Alan finds a project where he can use it.
Sotiris wrote:He seems so heartbroken that WDAS didn't give him another movie after his success with Tangled. :(
He's desperately asking for a new animated project. During the promotion of the live-action Beauty and the Beast he also mentioned it had been a good experience, but that he would prefer to write music for a completely original film. Both the Lopezes and Lin-Manuel Miranda have received new projects at WDAS after the success of their work, but not Alan. I hope they finally give him the opportunity he wants (and deserves).
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JeanGreyForever wrote: That's heartening to hear. I'm glad that The Grinch is giving it a run for its money.
what Disney is going to take away from this is that the only reason people are watching this movie is for the Wrecked Princesses, so of course they're making a WP movie. Except for Vanellope and Ralph (who I could see as supporting characters in a WP film)I doubt we'll see anything of the supporting WIR cast ever again, which is really crappy. :down:
Please make it not happen! That is not how I want the princesses to be viewed from now on. Especially when it's feeding into the general misconception people have about the characters.
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JeanGreyForever wrote: That's heartening to hear. I'm glad that The Grinch is giving it a run for its money.
what Disney is going to take away from this is that the only reason people are watching this movie is for the Wrecked Princesses, so of course they're making a WP movie. Except for Vanellope and Ralph (who I could see as supporting characters in a WP film)I doubt we'll see anything of the supporting WIR cast ever again, which is really crappy. :down:
This is why a TV series would have been better than this sequel. We could of learned what's happened at Litwak's Arcade over the past 6 years. Why Ralph was so clingy to Vanellope & why he didn't have any other friends, always being with Vanellope all the time. What happened with Vanellope & her game? Was she still not getting along with the other racers? Were new games being added to the Arcade or were some being removed, which would have Vanellope questioning staying in the Arcade forever, hoping your game doesn't get unplugged. This would have explained better why Ralph/Vanellope seemed so out of character in the sequel.
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I would not be shocked if the Disney exe still hates Alan. He wasn't even at the red carpet for crying out loud. :roll: :roll: :roll: I'm glad he was back for *something*. And this was a def good return for him. Watch Disney blame the 0 noms for APCSR on Alan, despite a very competitive song season and possibly Disney choosing to campaign Mary Poppins over Ralph for the Best Song category. The fact that Shallow was nominated for a Grammy this year gives APCSR a major boost for next year.

And duh, I want a Wrecked Princess movie :lol: I really can imagine Disney doing the girls justice. A full length movie would give the writers, the voice actresses (hearing the originals was so refreshing), and Alan Menken serious meat to chew on: Humor-wise, character-wise, and emotion-wise. But, what would it be about? That's the main thing. Either way, we're getting something with the WPs. Disney is money-smart, they won't let this die.
DisneyEra wrote:This is why a TV series would have been better than this sequel. We could of learned what's happened at Litwak's Arcade over the past 6 years. Why Ralph was so clingy to Vanellope & why he didn't have any other friends, always being with Vanellope all the time. What happened with Vanellope & her game? Was she still not getting along with the other racers? Were new games being added to the Arcade or were some being removed, which would have Vanellope questioning staying in the Arcade forever, hoping your game doesn't get unplugged. This would have explained better why Ralph/Vanellope seemed so out of character in the sequel.
I want a TV show in general. I don't care what. Your pitch is definitely more plausible and more simple. It would be complicated to show the Internet and switch back to Litwak's. Plus, we would get the Calhoun and Felix time we desperately needed. I hope that Sugar Calhoun Family show happens because that was such a waste of a story. I rather wanted 5 secs of Felix & Calhoun w/ the deleted twins and 5 secs of a wasted story. I can picture them both doing a Princess show w/ Vanellope & the girls and a Sugar Calhoun Family w/ Ralph. A very nice compromise for the fandom and the original talent.
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If we do get a Wrecked Princess movie I really hope they again specify in the film and promotions for it that these princesses are not the real princesses but very OOC avatars that inhabit the Oh My Disney realm and the internet. I think that's going to be very important and necessary to maintain the integrity of the original characters and films and make the movie more acceptable to the Disney princess fans who prefer the more traditional interpretations.
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