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I'm happy that happened for you, Atlantica! :D I'd at least watch the first 12 episodes, to the end of the first half. Maybe wait to watch all of the 2nd half in one sitting after they've aired? (I wouldn't be able to wait myself.)
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Is Aurora humming "Once Upon a Dream" right before Maleficent appears?

Some people are saying that, but I'm not sure...
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I personally don't think so. I went back and listened to it a couple times, and it doesn't really sound similar to me...?
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I enjoyed tonight's show, even if it felt a little rushed and all-over-the-place. I don't really understand how the book/author is preventing villains from getting their happy endings because the Savior is there, but Ursula just got hers?? Ariel continues to be a badass on this show--stating the obvious that all the other characters are skirting around. Some of the backstory explains Ursula's ugly costume, considering she used to have scales. I guess Ursula's role is over now...? Not to harp on, but I still feel Ursula was going to be Tamara until she became unpopular; all the details line up for me (they even brought up the Dragon for the first time since the Tamara/August episode), and I wonder if I'd have liked the story better with that actress. I find it strange how Ursula absorbed Ariel's storyline...--even Ariel's Beginning! rotfl We never even saw her use any powers and still didn't explain how she was banished to the real world (although it would be easy to fill-in-the-blanks that she lost the fight against Poseidon). Disappointing.

Snow and Charming got on my nerves, but I loved how Snow handled Cruella. :lol: I don't think less of them for killing Cora, or for refusing to work with Maleficent, but the next episode looks like I might feel differently if there's more history there than they've said. I also loved how they used "Fathoms Below" as a siren's song and how the atmosphere during Hook's near-crash was so much like Eric's shipwreck in the film. I have a feeling the way the season will end for Rumpel will depend on whether he renews his contract or not.
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so they just borrowed Ariel's backstory for Ursula's? geez these writers are lazy!

I loved all the August stuff(well the nose thing was a bit much.) Ahh so nice to see him again and so far he seems safe. Some people (uh mostly Capt. Swanners) are worried there's gonna be another triangle coming but I personally like Emma /August just fine as a bro-sis relationship.
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Very happy that they revealed that the Ursula of the Queens of Darkness and the Ursula that Regina impersonated were not the same person. It closed a plot hole that had been annoying me since they introduced the new Ursula.

It was a pretty good episode overall. Belle continues to disappoint me. Last week with the falling for Rumple's old tricks and this week for having such a "oops fooled me again" attitude over it.
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I enjoyed last night episode very much! And really loved to hear some “The Little Mermaid” tunes!

The fact that Ursula is really a mermaid explains the "Broadway musical" theory.

And since Poseidon is King Triton's father, we can now officially say that Ursula is Triton’s sister.
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Wow wow wow wow !

Ok, I haven't exactly binge-watched the whole thing, but I'm now up to episode 14, 'Unforgiven'. I am absolutely in LOVE with this season ! I very much enjoyed the season finale of Season 3 with Killian and Emma going to the Enchanted Forest, so thought it would be hard to being it back on such a high note, but they've massively succeeded !

Emma maintaining and building on her powers and working with Regina is compelling viewing, and how she alternates between Mary Margaret & David to Mum & Dad. Thats really lovely to see. And I'm totally into the Emma / Killian romance ! I just don't want it to end in tragedy.

Can't really comment on Snow and Charming as they weren't really in it all too much. Still have a lot of love for them though, in the little that they've been seen.

Regina has been brilliant ! Love her development and how she almost isn't even choosing to be good, its just becoming part of her. Love her little digs about hope speeches though :lol: "I'm not in the mood for a hope speech Swan.." "I think you must be mistaking me for my mother, what you need is a drinking buddy". I'd like to see her and Robin together for sure.

I enjoyed the Frozen storyline, and especially the Snow Queen. I thought she was a brilliant, tragic and such a sad character. I loved how she wasn't out and out bad - you can see why she did what she did and the reasoning why she did it. It was just so sad what happened to her. Anna and Elsa were brilliant, and very true to their counterparts. I found Hans / Duke of Wessleton / absolute Frozen references slightly cringe though. And how they constantly referred to each other by their name ?!

And WOW WOW WOW to Cruella ! She's fantastic ! Up there with Glen Close for sure. CANNOT WAIT for the rest of the season :D
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Tonight's episode was decent; more of an inbetweener to the next episode, which looks amazing. Still, a lot of plot. I have to admit--even though I really doubt this was planned before this arc--I actually like how they explained the touch of darkness on Snow's heart seen in season 2 was because of what they did to Maleficent and not because they killed Cora (since I don't consider putting a murderer/monster to death an evil thing; Regina lucked up because of Henry, and Rumpel is just too powerful to do away with). And a mention of Walt??? :o

Nice to see Zelena will be back. I'm guessing that's why Rumpel's power is fading. I had guessed for a while that she might be Marian from the time portal her magic created, but apparently Robin Hood is going to have some history with her. I'll admit it's a bit of a relief since the Queens of Darkness have been a little disappointing, overall.

Anyway, I'm just going to call it now: Jafar for season 5, I'm guessing. With the Peddler, not to mention the whole author plot being similar to his goals on OUAT in Wonderland and Will being there all season randomly, I'm thinking Jafar will be released on Emma and co. in the finale somehow. Plus, Aladdin is one of the few popular stories/characters they haven't covered at this point and the Blu-Ray is being released in the Fall (so, timing?). I wouldn't mind seeing Ana, the Red Queen/Cinderella's ugly stepsister, coming over to the main show with Will.
Atlantica wrote:Emma maintaining and building on her powers and working with Regina is compelling viewing, and how she alternates between Mary Margaret & David to Mum & Dad. Thats really lovely to see. And I'm totally into the Emma / Killian romance ! I just don't want it to end in tragedy.
I agree with all this. I'm think Emma/Hook will last until the end. Maybe a future series finale will be their wedding, perhaps? :P

I also loved the Snow Queen/Ingrid! Probably my favorite antagonist since Regina in season 1, although I've enjoyed all the villains they've had. I wouldn't say Cruella's actress is up there with Glenn Close, but she is very good! :D
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So...

Henry is totally the next author right? Seems kinda predictable what is going to happen at this point. The Queens of Darkness will attack the author, likely kill him. Suddenly with no author anymore all of the characters will begin to cease to exist, forcing Rumple to release the sorcerer's apprentice from the hat, he will take them to the sorcerer who will make Henry the new author (because of Henry's connection to the book). Henry rewrite's Maleficent's ending giving her Lilith back and then writes his mother's own happy ending with Robin Hood. The new villain will attack Henry and thus the cliffhanger for next year.
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I so hope so. The PERFECT ending to the whole series would be Henry taking up the pen.
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so a question: does this mean August was one of the authors as well? b/c he had the book and added his story to it at one point remember? Also he seems to know so much about it. Also they could go back an make him the next author, but if he already was one then they might give it to Henry next.

Im sorry I know we're all Disney fans here, but the Walt name drop made me groan a bit...


I am not looking forward to Zelena next ep, didnt care for the OZ or Neverland storylines from season 3.
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There are a lot of plot holes with this author reveal. August being able to add to the story being one of them. Another being that page that shows Regina and Robin together. I'm assuming you can be a fake author (it is a job), much like someone can be a fake surgeon. You can cut someone open and take out their spleen, but that doesn't make you a surgeon. I can see August being made an interim author until Henry is "ready" or something like that, if Henry becoming the author is the end game of the show. This whole author story line feels like it should have been the last story for the show anyway. Season 5 is a given with Once's above average ratings, but I almost wonder if it wasn't such a certainty when they came up with the plot line?

I'm looking forward to seeing Zelena back. Mostly cause the way she "died" last season seemed like a cop-out. You can't kill the Wicked Witch of the West like that. She's way too powerful.
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Am I the only one finding the second half of this season quite a let down? The Queens of Darkness storyline just feels like a huge letdown. I enjoyed the backstory for Ursula with her father but in the end she just turns out to be another woman angry at a man, I really don't feel like she did anything resembling a villain. Cruella is more comical than villainy and I'm not particularly excited for her backstory. I absolutely hate that Emma is now at odds with her parents and I'm tired of watching Hook be shoehorned into every scene with Emma, I just cannot stomach the "Captain Swan" relationship, she can't even have one scene bonding with her family, I seriously had to roll my eyes when she walked into the apartment and Snow, Charming and Hook were stood there all looking worried and she just goes straight for the "OMG Killian, what's wrong?!".

Sorry, I'm ranting :lol:
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unprincess wrote:so a question: does this mean August was one of the authors as well? b/c he had the book and added his story to it at one point remember? Also he seems to know so much about it. Also they could go back an make him the next author, but if he already was one then they might give it to Henry next.
If August was not an author himself, which I don't think he is, then it's very possible an author gave him the pages to add. The Dragon had been doing research on the Authors, so perhaps he acquired them (or the name of another author) from that research. (As an episode or two ago, August admitted he took what the Dragon had after his death.)
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I think the storybook was just missing some pages or had those pages taken out and August acquired them because he was Pinocchio, and put them back in. I know, that doesn't sound satisyfing or sensical but I didn't think they planned him in the author storyline.

This show still hasn't told us how Ursula and Cruella got sent to the real world instead of Storybrooke. And it didn't explain what happened to Maleficent's egg. Didn't Snow say she would return it when she and Charming were done with it? So why didn't Maleficent know where it was or what happened to it before the curse hit?

The show did not say Snow's heart was dark because of what she did to Maleficent. I think killing is wrong and Snow and the other characters think it is too, no matter who you kill. I can understand killing someone in self defense but killing someone just as punishment is just as bad as killing at all.

I can't understand how Regina isn't still mad at Snow for killing her mother. In fact, in the show, did she openly say she forgives Snow? The only way I can fathom her accepting someone killing her mother is that she thinks the good guys had to stop her somehow and just mistakenly didn't choose the best option (imprisoning her).

Ursula changing from a mermaid to an octopus in this show doesn't have anything to do with the Broadway version of The Little Mermaid or the idea from the original movie of The Little Mermaid that Ursula and Triton were siblings, which the movie of The Little Mermaid probably changed because Ursula's "How are you?" to Triton in the movie sounds sexual. This show is not canon to The Little Mermaid.

But where, where on earth can I get a recording of that heavenly "Fathoms Below" Ursula sings? Was that really that younger Ursula's actress's voice? When she got her voice back was it that the grown-up Ursula's actress's voice? I doubt it for either, but my word what an angelic voice. Do they credit that girl/woman's voice in the show so that I can look up more of her singing?!
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Disney Duster wrote:This show still hasn't told us how Ursula and Cruella got sent to the real world instead of Storybrooke. And it didn't explain what happened to Maleficent's egg. Didn't Snow say she would return it when she and Charming were done with it? So why didn't Maleficent know where it was or what happened to it before the curse hit?
The show told us this in the last episode. The egg was sent to the real world along with Ursula and Cruella (who had come to steal it back from Snow and Charming) by the Sorcerer's Apprentice because of the author who manipulated the story--when Snow/Charming were attempting to make sure their baby was good, the evil was given to Maleficent's child and it was sent to the real world where it couldn't hurt anyone. Of course, this opens a plothole about why Cruella hasn't aged (because we can suppose Ursula ages slower or not at all because of her relation to a god).
The show did not say Snow's heart was dark because of what she did to Maleficent.
Snow herself said so. She also admitted that she doesn't feel guilty for killing Cora during Ingrid's curse. Besides, what they did to Maleficent's child was actually wrong, imo; nobody is blameworthy for Cora's death except for Cora.
This show is not canon to The Little Mermaid.
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I hated the mention of Walt's name. It felt tacky... kinda self-promotional.

Also, I always felt like in their version of our reality, there arent any films made from fairy tales... just the original stories. Like... when Emma Swan met Cinderella, she didn't go "oh, like the disney movie... and Ever After, and the Bandy version..."
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Marce82 wrote:I hated the mention of Walt's name. It felt tacky... kinda self-promotional.

Also, I always felt like in their version of our reality, there arent any films made from fairy tales... just the original stories. Like... when Emma Swan met Cinderella, she didn't go "oh, like the disney movie... and Ever After, and the Bandy version..."
Neal told Mulan they made a movie about her when they met in season three. He wasn't necessarily referring to the Disney movie, but he likely was.

A good suspension of disbelief in necessary to watch this show.
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Disney's Divinity wrote:The egg was sent to the real world along with Ursula and Cruella (who had come to steal it back from Snow and Charming) by the Sorcerer's Apprentice because of the author who manipulated the story--when Snow/Charming were attempting to make sure their baby was good, the evil was given to Maleficent's child and it was sent to the real world where it couldn't hurt anyone. Of course, this opens a plothole about why Cruella hasn't aged (because we can suppose Ursula ages slower or not at all because of her relation to a god).
I don't remember them saying or showing Maleficent's egg being sent to the real world. Yes, we see her in the real world, but they don't show what Snow and Charming did to the egg or the egg getting sent to the real world or the scorcerer causing it. It isn't explained how she got there or that she's there because she's evil or that the scorcerer did it or anything. Unless I missed all that because my television did a very werid thing during a commercial and maybe I missed some of the episode?

Also, I still don't understand why Ursula and Cruella got sent to the real world. Sorry if I'm a little slow on the uptake or something. Thanks for kindly trying with me.
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The show did not say Snow's heart was dark because of what she did to Maleficent.
Snow herself said so. She also admitted that she doesn't feel guilty for killing Cora during Ingrid's curse. Besides, what they did to Maleficent's child was actually wrong, imo; nobody is blameworthy for Cora's death except for Cora.
Well me must agree to disagree on Cora's death being wrong or not but I don't recall Snow actually saying anything close to the words, "Killing Cora didn't darken my heart. What we did to Maleficent is." When Snow said she wasn't sorry for killing Cora, I think that was just because she was under the spell. No one was said to be acting their "true" selves during the spell.
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