The Tangled world known as Rapunzel part 4

[Tangled]

Quick question for those who have seen the film:

Are there any short songs that didn't make it on the soundtrack? For example, The Little Mermaid had the song sung by Vanessa, The Lion King had the Hawaiin War Chant, and Princess and the Frog had the "Friends on the Other Side" Reprise.

Just wondered if Tangled features any short songs or reprises that aren't included on the soundtrack, for example more reprises of the "Healing Incantation".

Don't recall anything besides a bunch of reprises of the Healing Incantation (don't know how many exactly, but there were 4 reprises on the album, 3 of which are hidden in tracks 10 and 18.)

[PheR]

wasn't a song called 'my forever' cut out of the movie? it was supposed to be sung by Gothel to Rapunzel and then a reprise sung by Flynn to Rapunzel with more romantic lyrics. But I think it was just a rumor...

[Disney Duster]

Heck, even PRINCESS AND THE FROG had a different title then the original (The Frog Prince, which IMO whould have made more sense since Tiana doesn't start out as a princess.) I personally think that Rapunzel Unbraided, which was a working title, is a WAY worse title. I'm glad the title is Tangled (Flynn is a main character too, not just Rapunzel.)

I had a big problem with The Princess and the Frog being so, so, so different from past Disney fairy tales, too, but actually The Princess and the Frog IS a legitimate title for that fairy tale, it has been used for that fairy tale in storybooks before.

PheR, it was not a rumor, it was mentioned in D23 magazine.

However, it has been changed to "Healing Incantation" which is sung differently by Gothel and Rapunzel to different people with different meanings.

I actually wrote to Alan Menken because I was concerned that it would be wrong to have the same "motherly love" song sung by Gothel to Rapunzel be a song that Rapunzel sings of "romantic love" to Flynn. I said I thought that would send the wrong message, like those two different loves were the same, unless the melody and lyrics would be different enough in the two different versions of the song.

He never wrote back, but I wonder if that influenced the change at all, a change I like better.

[The Little Merboy]

Went and saw it tonight, I freaking loved it!!! Made me cry Even though she is evil to the core, I love Mother Gothel. Esp. her cheek bones!

[Polizzi]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i90vrOzPHNg

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Thought I share this video that I found on Youtube.

[Coolmanio]

Slant gave Tangled a positive review. The site that has a mission to fail almost ever Disney movie gave Tangled a positive review. Wow, it MUST be good now:

http://www.slantmagazine.com/film/review/tangled/5163

[Semaj]

Even if Tangled is not one of Disney's greatest achievements, it's at least a heartfelt rendering of a classic fairy tale, a deliberate rejection of the sarcastic, pop-culture-referencing smirkfests that constitute much of animation today. Take that, Shrek.

Now that's what I want to hear.

[Polizzi]

Sorry to bring this up even though we were supposed to talk about Disney's, "Rapunzel (Tangled)," but I went to see the early run of, "Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows Part 1," before its actual release, and it is a really good movie. I give that movie an A+. Despite some scenes not mentioned based on the novel by J.K. Rowling, but they did adapt the good part for the scenes. Anyways, I can still go see Disney's, "Rapunzel (Tangled)," and to my belief, it will probably do as good as, "Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows Part 1." To some of you Disney fans, you would probably believe, or assume, that it will do better than Harry Potter. I say to you, that depends, but I believe that both will do good this month at the box office, but I must agree with some of you Disney fans that Harry Potter will make a mother load of money. In fact, I have read this site that said that it would most likely earn about over $100 million at box office, and (this may sound a bit of a shock or interesting) make (but I would not count on it...maybe) $1 billion worldwide (I do not know how much around the United States and Canada, but we will know soon enough). How much do you think Rapunzel would make at the box office? I heard from some of you that it would most likely make about $300 million to $400 million worldwide (maybe even $600 million perhaps).

[singerguy04]

I also just returned from seeing the new Harry Potter film. I think it's obvious that it's going to do well, and honestly it deserves to do well. I believe that Tangled is going to be a great film, and that through proper word of mouth and great reviews many people will see it. I also think that it will be a success for Disney. I, however, do not believe that it will out-perform or really perform as great as Harry Potter will. As a very loyal fan to Disney, I am willing to say flat out that Disney really effed up on this release date, and it is truly a discredit to the studio that the suits will not see it's release date as a problem (much like TPatF).

I don't mean to be a debbie downer, but I have to give credit where it's deserved. I just hope that Tangled will perform well enough to grant it critical acclaim and a great positive amount of revenue.

[Fairytales]

Kind of a boring day today... no new pictures nor clips

Well, we just got this little photo from their official Facebook page.


http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid= ... 3565352984

"Rapunzel and Flynn Rider continue to take their adventure to new lengths--last night they were spotted at the Los Angeles Kings game!"

Now that is hilarious

[Jackoleen]

Dear Disney Enthusiasts,

I hate to be the bearer of bad news, PatrickyD, but, like the lingo of too many teen girls today, Rapunzel's lingo is outdated beyond belief!

Why? Well, during the 1980s, the word "like" was being used rabidly, even though Ariel seemed to be conspicuously unaware of that. She didn't even bother to use that word.

I hope that the ONLY time during which Rapunzel uses that word is when she sings "by then, it's, like, 7:15", because if she goes around dropping the "L" bomb, I'm gonna spit my movie candy into the bathroom sink!

In my opinion, today's kids are trying to relive the 1980s, but it's sooo not funny, or amusing, for ME, anyway, because I ALREADY wore stretch pants, used the word "like", etc. I don't understand why a rabid 1980s word has to come back today with such air-headed strength.

When 2030 arrives, the slang from "Tangled" will sound like 2010's rehash of, like, 1988, I'm shurr!

I guess that I am showing my age (EEK!), but I wasn't yet a teenager during the 1980s, and even I can see that we're not even replicating the fashions, fads, etc., with a true sense of authenticity. We're trying to replicate an excessive era of decadent pleasure and quality with a "Made in China" price tag, and with choppy hairstyles that would be more at home on The Shaggy Dog! I mean, really!

I know that I may be alone, but I'd love to see more authenticity, and an ever so slight amount of era- correctness (with regards to the era during which the stories are set during) in the new Disney movies. Blame my volunteer work as an historical state park volunteer, but seriously, I think that entertainment and accuracy CAN go hand in hand, to some degree.

I WON'T say that I am GOING to hate "Tangled", but I CAN say that I won't enjoy hearing such expressions as "like", "cool", "as IF", "I am sooo OVER that", or even "BEST! DAY! EVER!" more than one time each during the entire movie. I can already tell that Flynn Rider is gonna be one slang-talkin' dude (Ie: The "forbidden roadtrip" line, etc.), and I'm not too pleased about that, but I'll give the movie, like, a total, like, chance, like, fer shurr. I'll soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo TOTALLY give the movie a, like, TOTALICIOUS chance on the 24th.

Thank you in advance for your replies.

If Rapunzel speaks like a girl would in 2010, it will sound like a girl speaking as a girl would in 2010 by the time it's 2030. That's just how it is.

[Kyle]

I know I was only born in the late 80s (Im 22), I wouldn't know any better, but I never thought of like as an 80s word. I thought it was made popular with 90s movies like clueless. you know, the valley girl stereotype. I thought "like" was the same bread of slang as "as if".


It could be a lot worse though guys. be glad she never says bling, ish, as in "its 7:15 ish" whatever else you can think of. like may be a modern word in this context, but it never really went out of style, and I don't think it ever will. They must agree or the word wouldn't be in there.

[Elladorine]

I know I was only born in the late 80s (Im 22), I wouldn't know any better, but I never thought of like as an 80s word. I thought it was made popular with 90s movies like clueless. you know, the valley girl stereotype. I thought "like" was the same bread of slang as "as if".

Valspeak has been around since at least the 70's, and first became widespread in the early 80's (thanks in part to recording artists like Frank Zappa and Julie Brown).

[eralkfang]

The problem is that most Disney princess movies don't have a specific historical setting beyond fairly generic fantasy–The Princess and the Frog is the only one with a very specific historical setting, and while Sleeping Beauty is definitely set in the fourteenth century, that's an entire century, not a specific setting (albeit more specific than, say, The Little Mermaid). Yeah, generic fantasy takes its cues from medieval Europe, but it's an invented world. Had they gone with the 1800s design we've seen bits and pieces of in the concept art, I'd want better diction–but they didn't. And it isn't only Rapunzel; Flynn's got plenty of modern sayings.

That photo is too hilarious.

Some merchandise news: Tonner will be making Tangled dolls–Flynn is not in the cards, so Rapunzel probably is. Source.

[Marisol]

Also, goodness gracious people, you'd think Rapunzel was walking around going "that's wiggity whack, yo" with the way you're carrying on. She's got no class because she says "like" and "freak out?" Settin' the bar pretty high, aren't you? Especially for an excitable, bubbly, vivacious young woman! She's being in character.

The thing is, she isn't being in character. Not for a young woman who was separated from the world. She would never talk like a typical teenager because she wouldn't be exposed to anyone other than Gothel. She should talk like a bubbly, excitable, vivacious young woman because that is who she is, but she should not use popular 2010 teenage talk.

It's just my opinion. I don't think it makes her "classless", but I don't think it fits well in the movie. That is the same problem I have with "When Will My Life Begin". It is a gorgeous song, and could have been made to be more proper to the period, but they made it sound like a "pop" version that should be for the ending credits. Mandy sings it beautifully, but she is singing with a "pop" color to it. Her speaking voice has a "pop" color to it too. It is not JUST the words she uses.

And the problem becomes that she sounds like a stereotypical 2010's teenager who lives in High School Musical, Glee, or iCarly. But she is not a stereotypical teenager and certainly not a "pop" culture stereotypical teen.




Kyle, "like" was used in the 80s and early 90s but it was much more subtle than what you hear in valley girl talk. My peers used it a lot as a filler, but they did not have the valley girl melodic tones and pitches. So it didn't make them all sound so ditsy or like air-heads. After valley girl type movies became popular I started to hear people mimic the tones to make fun of it, and for some people it became their way of talking. But for most, not. At least this is how it was in my area.[/i]

[RodryCroft]

The problem is that most Disney princess movies don't have a specific historical setting beyond fairly generic fantasy–The Princess and the Frog is the only one with a very specific historical setting, and while Sleeping Beauty is definitely set in the fourteenth century, that's an entire century, not a specific setting (albeit more specific than, say, The Little Mermaid). Yeah, generic fantasy takes its cues from medieval Europe, but it's an invented world. Had they gone with the 1800s design we've seen bits and pieces of in the concept art, I'd want better diction–but they didn't. And it isn't only Rapunzel; Flynn's got plenty of modern sayings.

That photo is too hilarious.

Some merchandise news: Tonner will be making Tangled dolls–Flynn is not in the cards, so Rapunzel probably is. Source.

REALLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!??????????????????????????
I was thinking about buy a Belle doll, but now I think I'll wait for Rapunzel! =DDDDDDD Tonner is the best doll maker ever! =)

[GYRAX]

Check out the Japanese trailer!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gViLn6HjmW8
(Sorry. I don't know how to embed video here, right now.)

Pretty damn epic if you ask me, and with plethora of new footage to boot. The video itself is pretty low quality, though.

[Fairytales]

Check out the Japanese trailer!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gViLn6HjmW8
(Sorry. I don't know how to embed video here, right now.)

Pretty damn epic if you ask me, and with plethora of new footage to boot. The video itself is pretty low quality, though.

THAT TRAILER JUST MADE MY DAY.
What an amazing trailer! Atleast in Japan they show that there is magic, romance and sadness in this story. In America all they do is promote a hilarious action comedy movie.
Cute little baby Rapunzel! And a slightly longer clip with Flynn and Rapunzel at the lights! This is so great ^_^

If they made this HD and showed it at tv i'm sure everyone would love the movie. It describes the pure epicness and the music makes it so amazing... *is totally happy now*

[Fairytales]

[PatrickvD]

Dear Disney Enthusiasts,

I hate to be the bearer of bad news, PatrickyD, but, like the lingo of too many teen girls today, Rapunzel's lingo is outdated beyond belief!

And that matters because? I never said that dated language or speech is a problem. Quite the contrary. And Rapunzel sounds exactly like most girls today, not sure what you're hearing? Also, dear Jackoleen, stop writing tedious essays.

Thanks in advance for ignoring my request and continuing to write them anyway.