The Tangled world known as Rapunzel part 4

[DisneyAnimation88]

Regardless of the film's title, isn't the most important thing that anyone who has seen the film has said it is an instant classic? I've always felt Lasseter would be the one to restore the quality of Disney animation and, so far, he seems to have done that with Princess and the Frog and Tangled. I honestly thought Tangled would be a failure so I'm very happy to have been proved wrong if the comments I've read on anything to go by and to see that Disney animation seems to have a bright future ahead.

[DisneyFan09]

I found scans of the Tangled graphic novel at hellyeahtangled.tumblr.com Major, major spoilers, of course.
http://veggiebean.picturepush.com/album ... il/4542744

Thankyou so much. Thankyou a million times. You don't know how I've been looking for the book on Amazon and eBay.

It looks like a typical comic book, but I still enjoyed reading it. The pictures were nice.

[PatrickvD]

What is in "Sing a Gay Little Spring Song" that is not timeless?

what do you think? It doesn't work for a contemporary audience. Yes, the movie is timeless, but certain aspects show its age. Like the word gay meaning happy... or Ariel's 80s hairdo...

If Rapunzel speaks like a girl would in 2010, it will sound like a girl speaking as a girl would in 2010 by the time it's 2030. That's just how it is.

And as for the title change: LET. IT. GO. Don't you ever get tired of constantly bringing it up? It's been changed. The end.

[miklc]

I'm excited to purchase the Tangled soundtrack, however what I find strange is that it's available to purchase on Amazon UK now (I'm pretty sure when I checked in October it stated it was to be released on the 1st November, though that seems like that was too early, would this have been a typo on their part do you think?), yet when I've went onto the iTunes (UK) Store it's know where to be found. I wasn't planning on downloading it anyhow as I only even download singles/singular songs never full albums, as I prefer to buy the physical copy and then transfer it into iTunes, I was simply curious as to it's price and perhaps sample one or two of the tracks even though I'm trying to not hear too much before I actually see the film. Just wondering if anyone knows why iTunes may have been delayed in releasing it, unless I'm being incredibly stupid

[Disney Duster]

It's like you didn't read what I said at all! I know you were talking about the word gay meaning something different today.

They used the word gay correctly for the time period in Bambi and Cinderella, it was correct to that time period.

However, Tangled may be using modern language, language incorrect for the time period.

But Bambi and Cinderella are timeless even though they are clearly set in a certain time. Ariel's hair-do has turned out to be timeless, too. Let's see if Tangled becomes timeless.

[Fairytales]

Kind of a boring day today... no new pictures nor clips

[phan258]

Language grows and changes along the society speaking it, and while some words stay relevant, many do not. Nobody speaks Latin anymore, but we still teach it in our highschools because many root words in English contain Latin. So we're not forgetting or ignoring the past, but ADAPTING it to suit the present.

Some words from old movies just plain don't make sense to modern listeners. Also, please remember the target audience for this movie is CHILDREN. It needs to have language they can understand. Like it or not, having words that suit the time period doesn't mean it suits the viewer--and frankly, they're the most important part. Without an audience, there's no movie.

[PatrickvD]

It's like you didn't read what I said at all! I know you were talking about the word gay meaning something different today.

They used the word gay correctly for the time period in Bambi and Cinderella, it was correct to that time period.

I'm pretty sure Cinderella's characters speak like people the way people in 1950s movies would speak, not the way people spoke in 1667. Which would be hard to understand for an American audience of the 1950s.

[PatrickvD]

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[janesjubilee]

Harry Shum Jr., who plays Mike Chang on Glee, tweeted "Tangled was great. Disney made another instant classic. Loved the old cupid man!".

The big thing about this is that the Entertainment section on CNN.com quoted him on their main page! http://www.cnn.com/SHOWBIZ/

I'm thinking word of mouth is more important than marketing these days.

My love for that man has just grown 10 times more than it was already.

Word of mouth is veeeerryyy good.

[SillySymphony]

@PatrickvD That vid was so cute! It had a certain Alice vibe to it...

[Marce82]

Ha! I'm so glad others have noticed the way Rapunzel talks...cause it has annoyed me from the first time I heard her, but I thought maybe I was scrutinizing her too much. I guess I'm not.

IMHO, its not just that the idiom will be very dated soon, but its also what it says about her character. It makes her appear ditsy, not very smart...maybe even tacky? (not saying teenagers who talk like that are).

And here is the thing: none of the other characters in the film talk like that. its just her.

As for the comparisons with older Disney films and the idea that they spoke the way people spoke at the time of their release....I disagree. If you watch the making of Sleeping Beauty, you'll know that Mary Costa was asked to do a mild "british" or "mid-atlantic" accent. I am sure that people in 1959 didn't talk the way Aurora does, both in accent or in choice of phrases.

And does ANYONE think teenage girls talked the way Snow White does??

Also, many of the Disney films of the 30's and 50's had characters speak in rhyme. I think this added to the "storybook" nature (and source) of the film. (IE: "all you need is faith and trust....(...) and pixie dust", "dance, be gay, off you go you're on your way!" among many other examples)

And even Ariel didn't use a lot of slang. I'm pretty sure she says "oh my gosh" to avoid saying "God", which Im sure many people would object to.


My point: how about giving Rapunzel a bit of class? People will relate to her because of who she is, not the way she talks.

[PatrickvD]

My point: how about giving Rapunzel a bit of class? People will relate to her because of who she is, not the way she talks.

but the way she talks, and I don't see a problem with it, makes her a real girl. If she were given an accent or spoke very formally, she wouldn't be the flower power princess that Menken and the directors set out to create. I'm pretty sure she's supposed to be a bit hip.

Also, why does everything have to be like previous Disney fairytales? Isn't this a 2010 version of a Disney fairytale, for today's audience? I do think every tiny detail tends to be scrutinized around here. Reviews are raving, but apparently Disney is damned either way. Always caught in the middle between their fanbase, the demands of their past and the demands of the current field of animation.

Tangled looks to have the best of all worlds. But to some, it's never enough.

[Gandalf]

These spoof ads are SO AMAZING

And now we know Flynn is 6'1"....mmm

EDIT: For those who are interested, I tried to re-arrange the songs on the soundtrack in the order they come up in the actual movie (because personally I just like hearing them in order! XD ) I'll put them in white for anyone who doesn't want soundtrack/title spoilers, and FOR OTHERS WHO HAVE SEEN THE MOVIE--Feel free to correct me if any of these are out of sequence!! I did my best, but it HAS been a month since I saw the film....

Soundtrack spoilers HERE:

Prologue
When Will My Life Begin?
Mother Knows Best
When Will My Life Begin? Reprise 1
Flynn Wanted
When Will My Life Begin Reprise? 2
Horse With No Rider
I've Got a Dream
Escape Route
Healing Incantation
Campfire
Mother Knows Best (Reprise)
Kingdom Dance
Waiting for the Lights
I See the Light
Return to Mother
Realization and Escape
The Tear Heals
Kingdom Celebration
Something That I Want

Interesting. One thing I've noted is that Tangled seems to follow the Menken/Disney pattern of being somewhat song-heavy in Act I and the relatively light in Act II.

[Marisol]

what do you think? It doesn't work for a contemporary audience. Yes, the movie is timeless, but certain aspects show its age. Like the word gay meaning happy... or Ariel's 80s hairdo...

I actually think Ariel's hair has come back somewhat with all those side swept bangs out there. I have seen lots of girls with what could be considered "Ariel hair".

And like Duster has said, Rapunzel is set in an older time and so the very "2010 teenage talk" language she is using seems out of place with the setting. Using some 2010 phrases isn't terrible, but as Marce then said, it makes Rapunzel sound very ditsy.

They could have given her modern phrasing without making her so stereotypically 2010 teenager.

And she is not a real girl. They don't need to make her so real that you could meet her at the local middle school. Actually rather, you would meet her on the set of iCarly.

[Gandalf]

Quick question for those who have seen the film:

Are there any short songs that didn't make it on the soundtrack? For example, The Little Mermaid had the song sung by Vanessa, The Lion King had the Hawaiin War Chant, and Princess and the Frog had the "Friends on the Other Side" Reprise.

Just wondered if Tangled features any short songs or reprises that aren't included on the soundtrack, for example more reprises of the "Healing Incantation".

[phan258]

People will relate to her because of who she is, not the way she talks.

Yes, this is exactly my point!

Also, goodness gracious people, you'd think Rapunzel was walking around going "that's wiggity whack, yo" with the way you're carrying on. She's got no class because she says "like" and "freak out?" Settin' the bar pretty high, aren't you? Especially for an excitable, bubbly, vivacious young woman! She's being in character. Anyway, I basically agree with PatrickvD on this.

And Gandalf, there is at least one (very speedy) reprise of the Healing Incantation that's not on the soundtrack....can't recall any others.

[Tangled]

Regardless of the film's title, isn't the most important thing that anyone who has seen the film has said it is an instant classic? I've always felt Lasseter would be the one to restore the quality of Disney animation and, so far, he seems to have done that with Princess and the Frog and Tangled. I honestly thought Tangled would be a failure so I'm very happy to have been proved wrong if the comments I've read on anything to go by and to see that Disney animation seems to have a bright future ahead.

Heck, even PRINCESS AND THE FROG had a different title then the original (The Frog Prince, which IMO whould have made more sense since Tiana doesn't start out as a princess.) I personally think that Rapunzel Unbraided, which was a working title, is a WAY worse title. I'm glad the title is Tangled (Flynn is a main character too, not just Rapunzel.)

[Tangled]

Kind of a boring day today... no new pictures nor clips

I know! Surprising. This IS Disney. Maybe because they gave us 3 great ones yesterday?

[GYRAX]

Kind of a boring day today... no new pictures nor clips

Well, we just got this little photo from their official Facebook page.


http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid= ... 3565352984

"Rapunzel and Flynn Rider continue to take their adventure to new lengths--last night they were spotted at the Los Angeles Kings game!"