The Princess and the Frog Discussion - Part III

ToyStoryFan · Post by **ToyStoryFan** » Sun Feb 28, 2010 3:28 pm

Boy, this came to home video fast, didn't it?

I saw in the Alice In Wonderland thread about how there is controversey about the film being in theaters for only 12 weeks, isn't that basically the same as PATF?

I guess there's a different standard for animated films, but I'm just thinking of Mulan for example, came out in June 1998 and was released to video in February the next year I believe. Seems kind of odd to me it was so fast to go to video (but I'm glad too as I LOVE this film).

ajmrowland · Post by **ajmrowland** » Sun Feb 28, 2010 3:46 pm

eh, PATF's theater runtime is about 13 weeks for most, but an average 15 for NY and LA.

blackcauldron85 · Post by **blackcauldron85** » Mon Mar 01, 2010 6:55 am

***

At a store near the animation building at Disney's Hollywood Studios, they have a banner going all along the top of the store; I was happy to see that they're promoting the film. And, the animation building has a short presentation, and at the end they always promote a current Disney animated film by showing clips/a trailer, and I guessed that they'd show TP&tF (I was hoping!), and Bobby thought that they'd be promoting Toy Story 3, and part of me thought that they'd be promoting Up, since you can still meet those characters in the meet and greet section (I hadn't had a pass in a while, but I think that they just skipped over meeting Tiana, Naveen, Louis, and/or Dr. Facilier...?). Anyhoo, they showed a trailer (with John Lasseter talking about how proud he is of the film, and with Ron & John talking), for TP&tF, and I was thrilled. Anyhoo, here are pictures of the banner at that store (and they have a TP&tF poster in a lighted frame, which I thought was cool). Alas, no merchandise was to be found for TP&tF...

SWillie! · Post by **SWillie!** » Mon Mar 01, 2010 10:53 am

Good to see they're not pushing it aside. That's weird that there's no merchandise in there though. I really hope it dominates sales on DVD and Blu-ray, so Disney gives it the treatment it deserves in the future.

DisneyJedi · Post by **DisneyJedi** » Mon Mar 01, 2010 11:22 am

Goodness gracious! That's amazing, Amy! I am so happy they're giving TPatF good treatment.

Despite no merchandise.

Goliath · Post by **Goliath** » Mon Mar 01, 2010 7:52 pm

Let's not forget it was a very mediocre film...

nachonaco · Post by **nachonaco** » Mon Mar 01, 2010 7:58 pm

Goliath wrote:Let's not forget it was a very mediocre film...

OK, Goliath, I am really sorry if this comes across as snotty, but do you like anything Disney?

If you don't like the way the company does things, that's fine, but it seems like you poo-poo on every thread, or at least two very recent ones (this one and the Waking Sleeping Beauty thread).

disneyboy20022 · Post by **disneyboy20022** » Mon Mar 01, 2010 8:25 pm

Goliath wrote:Let's not forget it was a very mediocre film...

I can think of quite a few more films from Disney that was "mediocre" before I would consider TPATF that status.....Home on the Range...that in my opinion was Mediocre - The yodeling villain...ugh now that's corny mediocre.....Chicken Little...yes Mediocre.....even dare I say The Emperor's New Groove......or how about High School Musical(s)? How About George of the Jungle 2.....Cinderella II: Dream whatever its called...Old Dogs.....College Road Trip....the list goes on and on and on...but to me...TPATF is the first thing besides Pixar that's come out of disney for years that I have absolutley loved and felt the story was quite good..but to each their own.....

DisneyJedi · Post by **DisneyJedi** » Mon Mar 01, 2010 8:29 pm

Goliath wrote:Let's not forget it was a very mediocre film...

Now that's not really fair, Goliath. Even if it is opinion-based.

blackcauldron85 · Post by **blackcauldron85** » Sat Mar 06, 2010 6:09 am

Try on Princess Tiana wedding gown at trunk show today, Saturday
http://thedailydisney.com/blog/2010/03/ ... -saturday/
(via laughingplace.com)

tsom · Post by **tsom** » Sat Mar 06, 2010 8:06 am

I think it's the best disney film, aside Enchanted, since The Lion King.

There. I said it.

KubrickFan · Post by **KubrickFan** » Sat Mar 06, 2010 9:23 am

I finally got to see it yesterday, and it was very good. However, I think that the two things that would make it a quintessential Disney movie (songs and princesses) were the definite weak points.
You have a wonderful and powerful story that focuses on a young black girl who gets too obsessed to fulfill her goals to actually be alive, to notice what life is really about. The songs were cute and all, but not memorable at all, and distracted from the story itself. I never thought when a song started 'this is the perfect moment for a song', but more 'here comes the obligatory song that tries to capture this or that emotion'.
Also, the fact that Naveen needed to kiss a 'princess' to break the spell seemed far-fetched. Since Charlotte isn't a princess, it would never had worked. Almost as if it's only purpose in the movie was to say 'finally, there's a princess movie again'.
I had hoped that Disney finally had the common sense that a Disney movie doesn't need songs, princesses, or a fairy tale as base to be a good movie. Too bad they seem to be in the same spiral again.

yamiiguy · Post by **yamiiguy** » Sat Mar 06, 2010 9:39 am

No merchandise? I'm tripping over merchandise in my local Disney store

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UmbrellaFish · Post by **UmbrellaFish** » Sat Mar 06, 2010 9:59 am

I love that mug!

blackcauldron85 · Post by **blackcauldron85** » Sat Mar 06, 2010 10:22 am

KubrickFan wrote:Also, the fact that Naveen needed to kiss a 'princess' to break the spell seemed far-fetched. Since Charlotte isn't a princess, it would never had worked. Almost as if it's only purpose in the movie was to say 'finally, there's a princess movie again'.

I think that Naveen thought that he had to kiss a princess. I mean, that's what the fairy tale says, so that's what he was going by.

Giygas · Post by **Giygas** » Sat Mar 06, 2010 10:41 am

KubrickFan wrote:Since Charlotte isn't a princess, it would never had worked.

Why wouldn't it have worked? Charlotte was technically a princess because her father was the King of Mardi Gras. (It only didn't work because he stopped being a King at 12)

Flanger-Hanger · Post by **Flanger-Hanger** » Sat Mar 06, 2010 11:21 am

I thought Charlotte would have become a Princess through marrying Naveen, like Tiana did in the end.

More annoying to me was when she decided not to, kissed him, but didn't become a frog like Tiana.

ajmrowland · Post by **ajmrowland** » Sat Mar 06, 2010 11:37 am

KubrickFan wrote: Since Charlotte isn't a princess, it would never had worked. Almost as if it's only purpose in the movie was to say 'finally, there's a princess movie again'.

But you missed one thing|: Charlotte, while technically not of Royal Blood, is a Princess due to some details involving Big Daddy and the Mardi Gras Parade/festival in the climax of the film.

EDIT: I see this has been stated already.

Also, Naveen really had to kiss a princess, cuz look what happened when he kissed Tiana.

KubrickFan · Post by **KubrickFan** » Sat Mar 06, 2010 11:38 am

Giygas wrote:
KubrickFan wrote:Since Charlotte isn't a princess, it would never had worked.
Why wouldn't it have worked? Charlotte was technically a princess because her father was the King of Mardi Gras. (It only didn't work because he stopped being a King at 12)

Yeah, that doesn't count at all. If your name is 'Princess', does that mean you're one?

And Blackcauldron, Mama Odie says that he should kiss a princess, so that should be true, right?

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