The Walt Disney Signature Collection

[Disney Duster]

Thanks farerb! I love how they mention the National Film Registry.

I only own the Beauty and the Beast Diamond. Can someone tell me if the ending of "Something There" is correct on that or the Signature, if either one?

Awww you love Oliver & Co, unprincess, but you had to wait so long to own it and watch it over and over! That's sad. You know, that preview for it in the beginning of Cinderella is part of my favorite, deepest childhood memories just because it was part of my experience watching my favorite film so many times!

[Farerb]

Both the Diamond and the Signature are incorrect.

[Hardbackyoyo]

Both the Diamond and the Signature are incorrect.

I guess there's always the 4K version for it to be fixed.

[Disney Duster]

Oh, thanks farerb. I hope the 4K fixes it as well, with a fixed Blu-ray packaged with it.

[JeanGreyForever]

Both the Diamond and the Signature are incorrect.

I guess there's always the 4K version for it to be fixed.

I sure hope so, because with Disney's track record, I'm not even expecting that.

[Vlad]

I also asked the Disney Movie Club representative about potential 4K releases for Snow White and Beauty and the Beast, and she told me they have no news about it yet.

[unprincess]

Thanks farerb!

Awww you love Oliver & Co, unprincess, but you had to wait so long to own it and watch it over and over! That's sad. You know, that preview for it in the beginning of Cinderella is part of my favorite, deepest childhood memories just because it was part of my experience watching my favorite film so many times!

yeah I think the movie would have become more popular if they had released it the following year on VHS. But it seems once The Little Mermaid came out they completely forgot about the film even though it had been a success.

I forgot what was changed about Something There from B&TB? Is it missing voices? So there is no Blu-ray version with the correct version of Something There? That's just wrong.

[Farerb]

Thanks farerb!

Awww you love Oliver & Co, unprincess, but you had to wait so long to own it and watch it over and over! That's sad. You know, that preview for it in the beginning of Cinderella is part of my favorite, deepest childhood memories just because it was part of my experience watching my favorite film so many times!

yeah I think the movie would have become more popular if they had released it the following year on VHS. But it seems once The Little Mermaid came out they completely forgot about the film even though it had been a success.


I forgot what was changed about Something There from B&TB? Is it missing voices? So there is no Blu-ray version with the correct version of Something There? That's just wrong.

In the theatrical edition there's a shot at the end when Mrs. Potts tells Chip "I'll tell you when you're older". The shot they used is from the special edition instead of the theatrical edition. Yeah it's wrong and it's especially weird since they did bother to fix The Little Mermaid and The Lion King, why not Beauty and the Beast?

[Disney Duster]

I am cautiously optimistic. Dont they ALWAYS say its newly restored every time they re-release it? I guess well have to wait for the screencaps...

You know, I thought they only ever said the films were restored during the Platinum line. Other lines, and some other films, afterwards, have gotten new restorations, but they didn't advertise or announce it, that I remember.

[teej]

I have a question that I’m not sure where else to ask. I still buy the newer releases from this collection because I love the Steelbooks at Best Buy, but I have all of the titles from the Diamond Collection in my Movies Anywhere app. If I redeem a code for my Movies Anywhere app from the Signature Collection, what happens to my digital copy from Diamond Collection in Movies Anywhere? To my understanding, the bonus features are different(?) or contain new features on the newer releases, so does it just replace what I had with the new Signature edition?

Thanks for any help!

[DisneyFreak5282]

I have a question that I’m not sure where else to ask. I still buy the newer releases from this collection because I love the Steelbooks at Best Buy, but I have all of the titles from the Diamond Collection in my Movies Anywhere app. If I redeem a code for my Movies Anywhere app from the Signature Collection, what happens to my digital copy from Diamond Collection in Movies Anywhere? To my understanding, the bonus features are different(?) or contain new features on the newer releases, so does it just replace what I had with the new Signature edition?

Thanks for any help!

I use VUDU and I just have doubles for Diamond and Signature releases, with each release using its respective Diamond or Signature edition artwork. I'm not sure if MA operates the same way but I'd assume so.

[Escapay]

I have a question that I’m not sure where else to ask. I still buy the newer releases from this collection because I love the Steelbooks at Best Buy, but I have all of the titles from the Diamond Collection in my Movies Anywhere app. If I redeem a code for my Movies Anywhere app from the Signature Collection, what happens to my digital copy from Diamond Collection in Movies Anywhere? To my understanding, the bonus features are different(?) or contain new features on the newer releases, so does it just replace what I had with the new Signature edition?

Thanks for any help!

Here's a breakdown of the Signature Collection titles and any differences between their original Disney Movies Anywhere digital versions:

Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs: (February 2016 / Movies Anywhere October 2017)
When Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs went from Diamond Edition to Signature Collection, it retained a majority of its bonus features on both Blu-Ray and Disney Movies Anywhere. "The One That Started It All," which had been 17 minutes on the 2009 disc, was expanded to 33 minutes by the inclusion of several of the "Hyperion Studios" featurettes. Likewise, the exploratory nature of the "Hyperion Studios" feature was instead streamlined into a more watchable 30-minute documentary. Featurettes that didn't make it into the documentary were available on their own, but "Where It All Began" curiously was not on the disc nor on Disney Movies Anywhere. It wasn't until Disney Movies Anywhere migrated to Movies Anywhere that it was available, along with all the supplements from the 2016 disc. The Oswald short, "Hungry Hoboes," had been a digital exclusive on both Disney Movies Anywhere and Movies Anywhere.

In addition, the following featurettes and cartoons from 2009 hadn't made it onto the 2016 Blu-Ray disc or any digital platform:

The Idea Man (1:41)
In Walt's Words: Cleaning the Cottage (7:03)
Setting the Stage (4:04)
Giving Voice to Snow White (2:46)

Silly Symphonies: "Babes in the Wood" (8:04)
Silly Symphonies: "The Skeleton Dance" (6:02)
Silly Symphonies: "Music Land" (10:15)
Silly Symphonies: "Goddess of Spring" (10:04)
Pluto: "Playful Pluto" (8:09)
Silly Symphonies: "Flowers and Trees" (8:31)
Silly Symphonies: "The Old Mill" (9:06)
Mickey Mouse: "Steamboat Willie" (8:02)


Beauty and the Beast: (September 2016 / Movies Anywhere October 2017)
This is the more frustrating entry to write about. The Disney Movies Anywhere version of Beauty and the Beast included all three versions of the film, albeit the Work in Progress still only as Picture-in-Picture. I'm not particularly a fan of the IMAX Special Edition, but would have preferred having that option available to me. When Beauty and the Beast migrated from Disney Movies Anywhere to Movies Anywhere, the Work in Progress and IMAX Special Edition were dropped. In addition, all the supplements are in a mish-mash order that makes no sense. Finally, to add insult to injury, Movies Anywhere includes Don Hahn's introduction for the "Transformation: Pencil Animation Version," but the actual featurette is nowhere to be found. For some small consolation, it is available on Vudu and iTunes versions (I haven't checked Amazon Video yet, and Google Play doesn't include supplements).

In terms of digital-exclusive material, when Beauty and the Beast first hit digital platforms in 2010, the featurette The Beauty of Voice Acting was an iTunes exclusive. It eventually was included among the digital supplements on Disney Movies Anywhere in 2016, along with another new digital supplement: Searching for Beast's Castle. Both featurettes made the jump to Movies Anywhere and other digital services, so are no longer platform-exclusive.

The Laugh-O-Gram cartoons and other brief animated clips from the 2010 Diamond Edition weren't included on the 2016 Disney Movies Anywhere or 2017 Movies Anywhere digital platforms.


Pinocchio: (January 2017 / Movies Anywhere October 2017)
Supplements are identical on the January 2017 disc, Disney Movies Anywhere platform, and its migration to Movies Anywhere. Ironically, the 2017 release includes a brief 2000 featurette (made for R2 Special Edition DVDs) and a very old storyboard-to-film comparison from the 1992 laserdisc (!), but does not include the maquette turnaround videos that were on the 2009 Blu-Ray.


Bambi: (June 2017 / Movies Anywhere October 2017)
Supplements are identical on the June 2017 disc, Disney Movies Anywhere platform, and its migration to Movies Anywhere. The one exception is the feature-length Inside Walt's Story Meetings, which a disc-exclusive. On the 2011 disc, it has seamless branching to additional featurettes. On the 2017 disc, it simply extends it by removing the branching option and leading into the featurette directly. Also, there are a couple featurettes from 2005 (Restoring Bambi and Disney Time Capsule 1942: The Year of Bambi) that never made the jump to Blu-Ray in either 2011 or 2017, nor to digital, obviously.


The Lion King: (August 2017 / Movies Anywhere October 2017)
Movies Anywhere migrated over most of the Disney Movies Anywhere supplements (which were simply migrated from the now-defunct Virtual Vault), but curiously left out The Lion King: A Memoir and The Animators' Reunion, the latter originally a digital exclusive. Both featurettes are still available on Vudu, however only if you redeemed the digital version of the Diamond Edition. Vudu actually has two separate page entries for both the Diamond Edition and the Signature Collection, so if you redeem both, you have access to both pages.


Lady and the Tramp: (February 2018)
Speaking of separate page entries, Lady and the Tramp is the first Diamond Edition to get a separate page listing for its Signature Collection on Movies Anywhere. So if you already have the Diamond Edition available on your Movies Anywhere, redeeming the Signature Collection code will now give you access to that page, while still keeping access of the older one.

https://moviesanywhere.com/movie/lady-and-the-tramp

https://moviesanywhere.com/movie/lady-a ... re-edition

As for supplements, it's repeated across both, but the Signature includes the three newer pieces as well.


Peter Pan: (June 2018)
Unlike Lady and the Tramp, the original Movies Anywhere page is updated with the new Signature featurettes. So if you already have access to the Diamond, there's no need to redeem the Signature code unless you want to have access to that page, too.

https://moviesanywhere.com/movie/peter-pan-1953

https://moviesanywhere.com/movie/peter-pan-2018


The Little Mermaid: (February 2019)
And now, we're back to Lady and the Tramp, where two separate page entries exist, but the newer Signature featurettes are not added to the older entry.

https://moviesanywhere.com/movie/the-li ... rmaid-1989

https://moviesanywhere.com/movie/the-li ... -signature


Planning ahead, the Movies Anywhere page for Cinderella doesn't include much, just the then-new Diamond Edition supplements. So I'm sure when it gets upgraded for Signature Collection later this year, a new page will be created that has more material to justify redeeming the Signature code (along with, hopefully, a new transfer).

Likewise, Sleeping Beauty is a repeat of its 2014 disc, which pared down the more extensive 2008 Blu-Ray set, but on Movies Anywhere includes Four Artists Paint One Tree as a digital exclusive. Here's hoping an eventual Signature Collection re-instates more of the missing 2008 featurettes (Grand Canyon, The Peter Tchaikovsky Story, Sequence 8, History of Sleeping Beauty Castle, etc.) in addition to whatever new stuff they cobble together.

One Hundred and One Dalmatians, The Jungle Book, and Aladdin are fairly packed on Movies Anywhere, and Aladdin has the benefit of actually including its complete 43-minute documentary in addition to all 70 minutes of its branching featurettes. The 2015 Blu-Ray infamously didn't include the actual main documentary, just the branching featurettes. Here's hoping nothing gets lost in migration when new Signature Collection pages are made.

Albert

[unprincess]

yeah I think the movie would have become more popular if they had released it the following year on VHS. But it seems once The Little Mermaid came out they completely forgot about the film even though it had been a success.


I forgot what was changed about Something There from B&TB? Is it missing voices? So there is no Blu-ray version with the correct version of Something There? That's just wrong.

In the theatrical edition there's a shot at the end when Mrs. Potts tells Chip "I'll tell you when you're older". The shot they used is from the special edition instead of the theatrical edition. Yeah it's wrong and it's especially weird since they did bother to fix The Little Mermaid and The Lion King, why not Beauty and the Beast?

oh thanks! Was the Special Edition the one they used for the Imax version that included Human Again? I dont know why so many pointless changes were made for these Imax 3d versions. Like the crocs that were redrawn for the Lion King 3d.

[Disney Duster]

yeah I think the movie would have become more popular if they had released it the following year on VHS. But it seems once The Little Mermaid came out they completely forgot about the film even though it had been a success.

Oliver & Co. may have become more popular. Sad if that was the case.

[blackcauldron85]

The Cinderella bonus features haven't been announced, right?

[Vlad]

Nope, not yet. I think they will have a press release later in April or early in May.

[blackcauldron85]

Thank you!!

[Disney Duster]

You know, I really like the logo because the "C" has the spiral. In other words, the top of the "C" curls. The spiral is featured almost everywhere in Cinderella, mesmerizingly in the Disney dust spiraling in Cinderella's transformation, but more noticeably in the railings on the stairs of the chateau, the railings at the palace, and most iconically in the wheels and other parts of the pumpkin coach. So it's very Cinderella. The spiral also happens to be my favorite shape, featured prominently in my two other most favorite Disney films, in Aurora's hair and Ursula's shell necklace. The spiral is also used heavily in Hercules, which is another Disney film I really like.

[Hardbackyoyo]

I guess there's always the 4K version for it to be fixed.

I sure hope so, because with Disney's track record, I'm not even expecting that.

Track record with what? The 3D version corrected it, I know that.

[Farerb]

I sure hope so, because with Disney's track record, I'm not even expecting that.

Track record with what? The 3D version corrected it, I know that.

Yes, it did. See what I wrote here:

I feel like Disney currently has two masters:
1. The special edition with seamless branching for the theatrical edition (this is what they used in Diamond/Signature 2D blu rays).
2. The theatrical edition only (this is what they used in the 3D Diamond edition bluray).

I think that the master that will be used for the 4K edition depends on whether Disney wants the special edition in 4K (hopefully they don't).