I KNEW IT! I KNEW IT! I knew from the first second I saw them at D23, it was a creative executive decision to put the Princesses in and not Rich Moore or even Pamela Ribon's (She said it was her idea after the screening.) I'm wondering again if Vanellope's song was another creative executive decision, but Rich had the freedom to do it anyway he liked.Sotiris wrote:Lasseter is to blame for the Wrecked Princesses! He was the one who pushed for their inclusion. It's no coincidence the princess scene was changed to be more respectful and less irreverent as soon as he left. Can't say I'm surprised. He always resented the '90s Disney movies and their success and this was just another attempt of his to sully their legacy. If only he had been fired sooner, all of this could have been avoided.
You will like the second half a little bit more then. They do poke fun of how the princesses get their songs, but it woven itself to Vanellope's song.Sotiris wrote:I find it pathetic, to be honest. Disney including every criticism of the princesses and every tired joke that was made against them over the decades to appeal to a certain demographic with no qualms about sullying their legacy in the process screams desperation.bruno_wbt wrote:Have you seen the new Princess spot? It's so funny!
It is just as bad it sounds. I find it infuriating that they removed two big major characters from the last movie in the way what they did. Believe me: When the cars beeped out the small piece we would get about Calhoun and Felix, it took me everything I had to not scream WHAT?! in the theater. I was very upset and it soured my mood a bit for the last minute of the movie. They could easily easily have made their parenting arc as a quick montage, so we can *gasp* SEE WHAT THEY WENT THROUGH TO FILL US IN. What a horrible execution! I especially feel horrible horrible for poor Jack MacBryer and Jane Lynch, who were clearly brought in a lot to record their original arc for their movie. Did they even know that they were cut out? And again, their original arc was in the color keys phase, so what possessed them to remove them like that?Sotiris wrote:Wow. That's bad. They not only took away their subplot but turned it into a cheap joke.That's not only disrespectful to their fans but to the characters themselves. I bet their screen time got cut to accommodate the princess scenes.
It actually isn't the princesses' fault. I learned at WDAS that the princesses were them from Day 1 and I actually saw a tiny bit of the first Princess scene that had Yesss in it. But with the OMD and Princess scene, that was 7 minutes that could have been easily for Calhoun and Felix. Adding Vanellope's last second song, 3 minutes. So, 10 minutes were taken from two big characters from the last movie.
We know they won't.Sotiris wrote:Those 2D tests better show up on the Blu-ray!Of course, knowing Disney they probably won't.
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Thoughts exactly.Sotiris wrote:I didn't like they kept the reference to Slaughter Race though and didn't change the lyrics. What's the point of making a pop version but keeping very universe-specific lyrics that don't make sense outside the context of the movie? That was a bad call on their part.
A part of me honestly does wish they dubbed Silverman's singing voice or made her sound more like herself (Sarah does have a good voice!) to make Vanellope sound more traditional, but it's part of Vanellope's character, so they get a pass. But man, during Sarah's long belt, you can hear her voice strain. It sounded painful, I hope Sarah's voice is okay.Sotiris wrote: I hope Disney releases a rendition of the movie version somewhere down the line with traditional, straight lyrics and sung by a professional singer because frankly Sarah Silverman doesn't fully do the song justice.
I actually think it might be nominated b/c of the old-Hollywood musical style. Plus, the song is a full on story about a character and her arc and that's what makes it stand out from the competition. But, again it's A Star is Born's Academy Award to lose for Best Song.D82 wrote:Now that I've listened to it, I don't think it will be nominated to the Oscars for that same reason. The end-credits version has a catchier chorus; however, I think they chose to submit the right one, because the latter might be too modern for the Academy members' tastes.








