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I'm super glad (and shocked :P ) you guys like the song! :D It was actually better than I remembered it to be from two weeks ago (I do not know how I mixed Broadway with jazz :lol: :lol: :lol: ). It's not as good as the old Menken songs, but still a great addition for the Princess & Menken songbooks!
Sotiris wrote:Lasseter is to blame for the Wrecked Princesses! He was the one who pushed for their inclusion. It's no coincidence the princess scene was changed to be more respectful and less irreverent as soon as he left. Can't say I'm surprised. He always resented the '90s Disney movies and their success and this was just another attempt of his to sully their legacy. If only he had been fired sooner, all of this could have been avoided.
I KNEW IT! I KNEW IT! I knew from the first second I saw them at D23, it was a creative executive decision to put the Princesses in and not Rich Moore or even Pamela Ribon's (She said it was her idea after the screening.) I'm wondering again if Vanellope's song was another creative executive decision, but Rich had the freedom to do it anyway he liked.
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bruno_wbt wrote:Have you seen the new Princess spot? It's so funny!
I find it pathetic, to be honest. Disney including every criticism of the princesses and every tired joke that was made against them over the decades to appeal to a certain demographic with no qualms about sullying their legacy in the process screams desperation.
You will like the second half a little bit more then. They do poke fun of how the princesses get their songs, but it woven itself to Vanellope's song.
Sotiris wrote:Wow. That's bad. They not only took away their subplot but turned it into a cheap joke. :shock: That's not only disrespectful to their fans but to the characters themselves. I bet their screen time got cut to accommodate the princess scenes.
It is just as bad it sounds. I find it infuriating that they removed two big major characters from the last movie in the way what they did. Believe me: When the cars beeped out the small piece we would get about Calhoun and Felix, it took me everything I had to not scream WHAT?! in the theater. I was very upset and it soured my mood a bit for the last minute of the movie. They could easily easily have made their parenting arc as a quick montage, so we can *gasp* SEE WHAT THEY WENT THROUGH TO FILL US IN. What a horrible execution! I especially feel horrible horrible for poor Jack MacBryer and Jane Lynch, who were clearly brought in a lot to record their original arc for their movie. Did they even know that they were cut out? And again, their original arc was in the color keys phase, so what possessed them to remove them like that?

It actually isn't the princesses' fault. I learned at WDAS that the princesses were them from Day 1 and I actually saw a tiny bit of the first Princess scene that had Yesss in it. But with the OMD and Princess scene, that was 7 minutes that could have been easily for Calhoun and Felix. Adding Vanellope's last second song, 3 minutes. So, 10 minutes were taken from two big characters from the last movie.
Sotiris wrote:Those 2D tests better show up on the Blu-ray! :evil: Of course, knowing Disney they probably won't. :roll:
We know they won't. :P I'll be shocked if they are. Maybe on YouTube though.
Sotiris wrote:I didn't like they kept the reference to Slaughter Race though and didn't change the lyrics. What's the point of making a pop version but keeping very universe-specific lyrics that don't make sense outside the context of the movie? That was a bad call on their part.
Thoughts exactly.
Sotiris wrote: I hope Disney releases a rendition of the movie version somewhere down the line with traditional, straight lyrics and sung by a professional singer because frankly Sarah Silverman doesn't fully do the song justice.
A part of me honestly does wish they dubbed Silverman's singing voice or made her sound more like herself (Sarah does have a good voice!) to make Vanellope sound more traditional, but it's part of Vanellope's character, so they get a pass. But man, during Sarah's long belt, you can hear her voice strain. It sounded painful, I hope Sarah's voice is okay. :o :o :o
D82 wrote:Now that I've listened to it, I don't think it will be nominated to the Oscars for that same reason. The end-credits version has a catchier chorus; however, I think they chose to submit the right one, because the latter might be too modern for the Academy members' tastes.
I actually think it might be nominated b/c of the old-Hollywood musical style. Plus, the song is a full on story about a character and her arc and that's what makes it stand out from the competition. But, again it's A Star is Born's Academy Award to lose for Best Song.
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I thought Disneyprincess was all in favor of feminism and women's empowerment. Surely this goes against her morals? :D
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thedisneyspirit wrote:I thought Disneyprincess was all in favor of feminism and women's empowerment. Surely this goes against her morals? :D
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I'm serious tho.
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disneyprincess11 wrote:They could easily easily have made their parenting arc as a quick montage, so we can *gasp* SEE WHAT THEY WENT THROUGH TO FILL US IN. What a horrible execution!
That's a pretty good idea. They could have saved time without sacrificing their arc. Disney did them dirty!
disneyprincess11 wrote:I learned at WDAS that the princesses were them from Day 1 and I actually saw a tiny bit of the first Princess scene that had Yesss in it.
There was variation that had Yesss in it? How many versions did they come up with for the same scene? I've heard of like 4 so far.
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thedisneyspirit wrote:I'm serious tho.
Oh. Well, I can love something so much and also have criticism of it. Even I pointed out at pg. 8 after I saw the scene myself at the Expo that I believed that the Princess scene was executive material and not from the directors:
disneyprincess11 wrote:I literally had a gut feeling they were going to do this. So, pretty much, to be remembered by the public, a Disney movie needs to have their princesses? So, WiR is THAT not popular, so they have to make Vanellope to get remembered? I honestly don't know if this is really the movie Rich wants. I applaud this boldness, but yeah this seems like a huge Disney advertisement. "Like you want us to sell WIR Merch, advertise our stuff in the sequel.
Sotiris wrote:That's a pretty good idea. They could have saved time without sacrificing their arc. Disney did them dirty!
Yup! Fantastic characters, fantastic B-plot totally wasted. :what: :what: :what: :glare: :glare: :glare:
Sotiris wrote:There was variation that had Yesss in it? How many versions did they come up with for the same scene? I've heard of like 4 so far.
Yup. We only saw the beginning. The princesses' dressing room was a normal one and the girls knew Yesss. Yesss introduced Vanellope (which she curtsied to them :eyebrow: ) and introduced her as something like "the Princess of Foodland." And yeah, I think around 3-4.
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Latin American version of "In This Place" performed by Karol Sevilla:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=weOhgr8GyEU

Youtube playlist with the entire soundtrack:
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DisneyEra wrote:Every single WDAS feature since Bolt has had great reviews. This was clearly expected. The last WDAS feature to have bad reviews was Chicken Little from 2005 :lol:
Yes, but the fact that this was a sequel made me a bit worried the reviews could be a bit worse than usual. But that hasn't happened. However, many review excerpts and tweets I've read said that it wasn't as good as the first film.
Sotiris wrote:You never know with the Academy. I mean, they snubbed Evermore which was quite memorable and unique, so catchy and original isn't necessarily what they're looking for. Honestly, I feel the songs are picked more on the basis of their movie's critical reception than the quality of the songs themselves. I still think the pop version would have had a better chance because it's more conventional and palatable and members seem to respond more to pop songs lately than traditional Broadway fare. It seems they no longer appreciate songs with more complex musical structures like that of "Belle". Perhaps they consider that type outdated.

Disney should have hired a big name in the pop music industry to perform the end-credits version. II hadn't heard of Julia before and I doubt many people have. Star power really appeals to and influences voters evident by the recent nominations of Justin Timberlake, Nick Jonas, and others despite their songs being mediocre at best.
I see the movie version more likely to be nominated, but who knows. It's true that the Academy is many times unpredictable and that it has nominated more pop songs lately. I also agree that the simpler music structure of the end-credits version could've been an advantage. If they had a hired someone more famous to perform it, as you say, it could have helped as well. By the way, if I'm not mistaken, Nick Jonas was nominated for a Golden Globe, but not for an Oscar.
disneyprincess11 wrote:I actually think it might be nominated b/c of the old-Hollywood musical style. Plus, the song is a full on story about a character and her arc and that's what makes it stand out from the competition. But, again it's A Star is Born's Academy Award to lose for Best Song.
Well, Warner Bros. is now submitting only one song from A Star Is Born instead of the three they initially announced, and I wouldn't be surprised if Disney did the same and finally submitted just one of the two songs they're currently promoting from Mary Poppins Returns. So, that means more room for songs from other films to be nominated.
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Despite the fact that it has been deleted from the movie, Disney has posted the infamous Meeko scene. I'm being honest here: Yeah, this was actually pretty bad :lol: They handled rabid Meeko better in the final movie. But, they do have a very sweet moment with the girls at the end. I wonder if they will post some of the deleted moments. I just know they will release the full Princess scene for an "extended version" of the movie, which would be a great marketing tool for sales.

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I found the art book at my mall and it turns out that the climax was going to originally be in the arcade with Felix & Calhoun and the kids helping Ralph and Vanellope. :( :( :( They actually made a better choice with the final climax because it's Ralph and Vanellope's problem and it's done very very beautifully (Hint: Think of Emily's exit in Corpse Bride), but I'll be so mad if they changed it just to suit the princesses.

(Don't worry, I blocked the spoilers).

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D82 wrote:Yes, but the fact that this was a sequel made me a bit worried the reviews could be a bit worse than usual. But that hasn't happened. However, many review excerpts and tweets I've read said that it wasn't as good as the first film.
In some ways, it's better (the character development, characters relationships, and the emotions). In some ways, it's not (the timelessness and the snubbing of certain characters).
D82 wrote:Well, Warner Bros. is now submitting only one song from A Star Is Born instead of the three they initially announced, and I wouldn't be surprised if Disney did the same and finally submitted just one of the two songs they're currently promoting from Mary Poppins Returns. So, that means more room for songs from other films to be nominated.
Yeah, Nick was Golden Globes. Good, I'm glad Warner is doing one song, so Mary Poppins and Wreck-It Ralph have a good chance to get in together. I won't be shocked at all if Disney protorizes Mary over Ralph. After all, Mary is THE BIG musical of the year.
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D82 wrote:Latin American version of "In This Place" performed by Karol Sevilla:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=weOhgr8GyEU
Thanks! This rendition is nice but I prefer the English one. Don't hesitate to share more foreign-language covers if you find any. I'm really into the pop version of the song after listening it a few times. It's infectious.
D82 wrote:By the way, if I'm not mistaken, Nick Jonas was nominated for a Golden Globe, but not for an Oscar.
That's right. I must have been thinking of Pharrell Williams with "Happy".
disneyprincess11 wrote:Despite the fact that it has been deleted from the movie, Disney has posted the infamous Meeko scene. I'm being honest here: Yeah, this was actually pretty bad.

That was completely out of character for him. Meeko is mischievous and scampy, not feral. He was never shown to be aggressive or not liking being touched. I'm glad they toned it down in the final film.
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Im trying to avoid spoilers b/c I have no idea when Ill get to see this film, but Im really not happy at how they've sidelined Felix and Calhoun. I would have preferred to see more of them then the Wrecked Princesses. :x
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unprincess wrote:Im trying to avoid spoilers b/c I have no idea when Ill get to see this film, but Im really not happy at how they've sidelined Felix and Calhoun. I would have preferred to see more of them then the Wrecked Princesses. :x
Felix and Calhoun are sidelined so badly in the sequel that....get this....Disney Channel literally used footage of them (and the others) from the intro of the Wreck-It Ralph video game as a special for the sequel. I'm dead rotfl rotfl rotfl

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Sotiris wrote:Don't hesitate to share more foreign-language covers if you find any. I'm really into the pop version of the song after listening it a few times. It's infectious.
I will. I found one song made for the film from Indonesia, though it's not a version of "In This Place" but a completely different one titled "Sebuah Lagu" from a group called Payung Teduh. Here's the song and here's a sneak peek of the music video.
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D82 wrote:By the way, if I'm not mistaken, Nick Jonas was nominated for a Golden Globe, but not for an Oscar.
That's right. I must have been thinking of Pharrell Williams with "Happy".
That's OK. :) Yes, Pharrell Williams' song is also an example of more modern songs being nominated lately.
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disneyprincess wrote:Felix and Calhoun are sidelined so badly in the sequel that....get this....Disney Channel literally used footage of them (and the others) from the intro of the Wreck-It Ralph video game as a special for the sequel. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCXGE8atRak
That John C. Reilly soundalike was so bad! :lol:
D82 wrote:I found one song made for the film from Indonesia, though it's not a version of "In This Place" but a completely different one titled "Sebuah Lagu" from a group called Payung Teduh. Here's the song and here's a sneak peek of the music video.
Interesting. Sometimes other countries produce original songs "inspired by" the movie that make it into the soundtrack. Most recently, it happened with Coco. This song has a pleasant jazz/lounge sound to it, even though it doesn't really fit the movie.
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There's a brief shot of a 2D-animated Mickey in the Oh My Disney scene. If they were able to incorporate a hand-drawn Mickey and Humphrey the Bear in a CG film, then why couldn't they have done the same with the 2D princesses? What's the rationale behind that? The whole thing comes off as inconsistent and arbitrary.
In celebration of Mickey's 90th Anniversary, keep a sharp eye out for this very special easter egg in Ralph Breaks the Internet when Vanellope visits "Oh My Disney," the happiest place online - sorcerer Mickey, hand-drawn by legendary animator Mark Henn.
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The very first half of the Princess scene is online. Everything after this is completely different from what I saw the Expo. I would say enjoy, but I know better :P (Seriously though, you guys will like the second half much better, I think). :) https://www.usatoday.com/story/life/mov ... 047076002/
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disneyprincess11 wrote:The very first half of the Princess scene is online. Everything after this is completely different from what I saw at the Expo.
Would you mind listing all the differences between the D23 Expo version and the final one? I kinda lost track.
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disneyprincess11 wrote:The very first half of the Princess scene is online. Everything after this is completely different from what I saw the Expo. I would say enjoy, but I know better :P (Seriously though, you guys will like the second half much better, I think). :) https://www.usatoday.com/story/life/mov ... 047076002/
The clip in that article is the same as this one, right? For some reason, I can't see the clip on that link. I'm sorry, but I don't like it at all. The things I disliked the most about the scene are still there. I doubt the second half will make me change my mind about the portrayal of the Pricesses. I hope I enjoy the rest of the movie, though.
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I couldn't even complete the scene here so I doubt I'll be able to stomach even more of it in theaters. Really wish Lasseter had been exposed much earlier than this so this ridiculous scene would never have been shoehorned in.
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It’s totally fine you guys don’t like it. :) But you guys were spared. The Expo scene was twice the jokes that I listed on pg. 59 (Sotrisis). The final second half is much more mellow and the characters are a lot more like themselves. It also builds up to Vanellope’s song, so you got Menken to thank for the complete rewrite :lol:
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