Frozen: Part IV

[Lady Cluck]

Man, it seems for this project they really got into Norwegian culture. I wonder why they decided on Norway of all countries.

EPCOT probably has something to do with it, also probably a reason why they decided to incorporate trolls.

[jazzflower92]

Man, it seems for this project they really got into Norwegian culture. I wonder why they decided on Norway of all countries.

EPCOT probably has something to do with it, also probably a reason why they decided to incorporate trolls.

Yeah, when you do any Scandinavian you need to at least have some trolls. I have a feeling they will be a ensemble darkhorse when the movie comes out. Trolls for the win.

[Lady Cluck]

I really like the vibe of that song though. Very chilling and I echo the sentiments about being glad they're incorporating some real culture.

[tomakpo]

Reminds me of Pocahontas titles song. The one that said "Steady as the beating drum".
I don't love it but meh, It's not the final version and it will get a lot better in the actual movie. I'd prefer the Hunchback opening style too, but we don't know, maybe they chose both and after this you actually get that or maybe, since It's not the final version, maybe we'll have the story being told as the music sounds or something like that.
I like the fact that it's part of the movie culture.

[Edthehyena]

I dont know what to say about the opening number. I can't really judge it before seeing it with the movie. I do like that they're incorporating culture in the music.

I was just expecting it to be like the opening number of Hunchback and Pocahontas. Maybe I'm wrong. Still... I'm so excited for this movie!!

You can bet that opening traditional chant will fast fade into one wonderful and dramatic song by Bobby Lopez ! When you see all the tragic elements occuring in the first 5 minutes of the movie, IT HAS TO be an epic storytelling musical sequence, Hunchback style, yes... with a bit of the young sisters singing ? Would be niceif there was a song between young Elsa and Anna, symbolizing their relation, and a duet reprise of it at the end of the movie, with the resolution...

[WonderNeverOz]

EPCOT probably has something to do with it, also probably a reason why they decided to incorporate trolls.

Yeah, when you do any Scandinavian you need to at least have some trolls. I have a feeling they will be a ensemble darkhorse when the movie comes out. Trolls for the win.

Well, Snow Queen's palace is located near Spitsbergen (Norway) in the original story so it makes sense.

[thelittleursula]

Reminds me of Pocahontas titles song. The one that said "Steady as the beating drum".

^ This

Getting a Pocahontas vibe with this movie. Which isn't good considering Pocahontas didn't do so hot. :/

[disneyprincess11]

2 THINGS, GUYS:

1. Looks like Jennifer Lee has confirmed the opening.

‏@gissy8123: @alittlejelee can you confirm this? http://translate.googleusercontent.com/ ... As2FWA0q9g …

Jennifer Lee ‏@alittlejelee

2. REMEMBER: So far, unless they recently removed it, this is NOT the whole opening. We still have the ice harvesters and possibly The trolls's prophecy about Elsa getting killed by her people, and the king and queen's possible deaths in the storm. So, don't worry to those who thought the opening was different than expected.

But, I can just picture as Elsa breaks down in her room about the deaths of the parents, the chant will resume and end...and then the title will pop out.

[Edthehyena]

2 THINGS, GUYS:


2. REMEMBER: So far, unless they recently removed it, this is NOT the whole opening. We still have the ice harvesters and possibly The trolls's prophecy about Elsa getting killed by her people, and the king and queen's possible deaths in the storm. So, don't worry to those who thought the opening was different than expected.

But, I can just picture as Elsa breaks down in her room about the deaths of the parents, the chant will resume and end...and then the title will pop out.

Yes. That's exactely what i meant when i wrote : " You can bet that opening traditional chant will fast fade into one wonderful and dramatic song by Bobby Lopez ! When you see all the tragic elements occuring in the first 5 minutes of the movie, IT HAS TO be an epic storytelling musical sequence, Hunchback style, yes..."

[DisneyFan09]

Wow. Being a Norwegian with hispanic blood from Bergen, I must say that I feel really honored. I liked the opening joik number.

[tomakpo]

Reminds me of Pocahontas titles song. The one that said "Steady as the beating drum".

^ This

Getting a Pocahontas vibe with this movie. Which isn't good considering Pocahontas didn't do so hot. :/

I don't think it's bad, Pocahontas didn't do so well also because "it was racist" and stuff. I don't think Frozen will have that problem. And If Frozen doesn't do well, I don't care. Hunchback didn't do well and I think it's a stunning movie.

[Warm Regards]

Another article that talks about the cultural influence in Frozen. http://www.kinomagasinet.no/artikkel/14 ... gesreklame

Rough Google translation:

Last time it was Scotland who benefited from "Brave". This winter is Norway bask in the glory of the new Disney movie "Frozen".

FACTS:
From the studio behind Tangled (Tangled), Brave (Brave) and this year's Wreck-It Ralph (Rip-Rolf), Walt Disney Animation Studios, the Frozen (Frost).
When a sorcery spell a kingdom of eternal winter, determines the fearless optimist Anna, decided to embark on an epic journey to find his sister Elsa, Snow Queen and put an end to her icy spell.
With him on the journey, she has the experienced mountain man Kristoff and his good friend, reindeer Sven.
On the journey through the valley and the mountains in one landscape reminiscent of Norway, meets the mysterious witch and a fantastic fun snowman named Olaf.
It is magical conditions on each of a mountain and they must together fight against the frigid elements to save the kingdom from eternal curse.
Directed by Chris Buck (Tarzan, Surf's Up) and Jennifer Lee (writer Wreck-It Ralph), the film is produced by Peter Del Vecho (The Princess and the Frog).

Norway Opening the movies: 25/12/2013.
Disney has in fact been inspired by Norway in winter new blockbuster movie, Frozen.

This would Innovation Norway to take advantage of and has recently signed a lucrative collaboration with film giant. Now they collaborate with Disney to inspire moviegoers worldwide to want to travel to Norway.

Tourism Director Per-Arne Tuftin signed Wednesday 4 September contract with Disney.

- It continues to be initiated several exciting activities both in Norway and abroad, related to the promotion of Frozen. Our goal is to use the film as a good starting point to create activities that can provide long-term gain for Norway as a tourist destination, says Per- Arne Tuftin.

The plot of Frozen - like in Norwegian called Frost and Norway will premiere in theaters on Christmas Day, 25 December - is heavily inspired by Norway. Disney people have spent a lot of time in Norway, to find inspiration and the shortage of Norway references in the new family film from Disney. Here are the Norwegian fjords, stave churches, viking, Nidaros Cathedral, Bryggen, trolls who speak Norwegian and a merchant selling lutefisk.

- Frozen year's big family film from Disney, and now film giant invited Norwegian Tourism and Innovation Norway to participate in a plan regarding marketing and promotion of the film. It's a Hollywood offer we just could not say no to, says Per-Arne Tuftin about the new partnership.

- We want to use the film as a good starting point to create a greater awareness of Norway as a tourist destination and facilitate activities that can provide a long-term gain for Norway as a tourist destination, says Tuftin.

Disney Norwegian video boss, Chr Espen Solberg, tells VIDEO MAGAZINE that he thinks clips from the film so far looks very good with brilliant animation, magnificent landscape and also a lot of humor.

- This is a film that should be very large, especially in Norway, he said.

- This is a fantastic opportunity to promote Norway. A unique opportunity to link Norway to a brand in the world, that we would otherwise never had the opportunity to work with such a scale, say Tuftin.

Innovation Norway and Visit Norway will use all available channels in the marketing of the film. Among other things, it will be separate pages visitnorway.com dedicated to film.

The last time Disney did something similar was when they launched the film Brave, where history is added to Scotland. VisitScotland was Disney's partner in this regard and the Scots have many positive experiences.

Investigations carried out by VisitScotland shows that a third of those who logged on visitscotland.com / brave was inspired to visit Scotland. Disney's own tour operator also found to fill up the trips to Scotland, where the goal was to see and experience the places featured in the film. VisitScotland assume that the film as a whole has contributed to an interest in Scotland worth over a billion for the Scottish economy.

- Disney is a recognized brand among millions of people worldwide. That Norway is the scene in a film of such dimensions as this, which will have all generations as viewers, making sure we have great faith in the film and our investments will perform well in both the short and long term, says Per Arne Tuftin.

- Now it is Norway Disney choose to work with, something we are proud of and grateful for.

[unprincess]

Sounds great. I love when Disney incorporates a specific culture into their films. I prefer it over a generic fairytale setting like in Little Mermiad & Tangled.

[DisneyFan09]

Sounds great. I love when Disney incorporates a specific culture into their films. I prefer it over a generic fairytale setting like in Little Mermiad & Tangled.

Me too.

And Walt's Princess films also had generic fairytale settings.

[PrincessElsa]

And Walt's Princess films also had generic fairytale settings.

Sleeping Beauty's castle has on one of its interior walls a huge and prominent mural of the double-headed black eagle of the Holy Roman Empire of the German Nation, along with consistently Gothic architecture, furnishings, etc. which places it specifically within that empire and its culture in a specific time period -- the 14th century.

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Not generic. Specific time period, specific political entity.

Snow White doesn't have any flags or escutcheons that I recall, but the half-timbered home of the dwarfs and its elaborate woodcarvings, along with the architecture of the castle, are specific to Central Europe in the Middle Ages. A bit less precise than Sleeping Beauty, but it isn't a generic hodgepodge.

Unless I'm mistaken, Cinderella has quite distinctive architecture and trappings of France of a few centuries later. I'd have to watch the film again to make a guess at the exact time period, but it seemed consistent to that culture.

Those films aren't generic either.

[jazzflower92]

Although in this movie its more obviously cultural.

[disneyprincess11]

Getting a Pocahontas vibe with this movie. Which isn't good considering Pocahontas didn't do so hot. :/

Tompako, earlier in June, i had similar thoughts. A lot of people wer complaining about Frozen with the new story, "how the new story is sexist", how there is another white princess, Tangled etc. And honestly, i think I had some tiny doubts about the movie and I forget what. And with all of this and the cheap marketing, I thought people wouldn't go and it wouldn't be as great as die-hard fans thought it would. Thus, making it another Pocahontas.

But, you know 3 months later, there has been nothing, but EXTREMELY positive news about FROZEN including new story plots (A LITTLE TOO MUCH ), the music, and news from the D23 Expo. And with the HUGE, EPIC plot and these positive news, I honestly think we have another Lion King in our hands.

Plus, Pocahontas and Frozen are completely different movies (minus the opening). I don't think we have nothing to worry about!

[JeanGreyForever]

And Walt's Princess films also had generic fairytale settings.

Sleeping Beauty's castle has on one of its interior walls a huge and prominent mural of the double-headed black eagle of the Holy Roman Empire of the German Nation, along with consistently Gothic architecture, furnishings, etc. which places it specifically within that empire and its culture in a specific time period -- the 14th century.

http://i1.wp.com/screencaps.us/195/9-sl ... m-4575.jpg

Not generic. Specific time period, specific political entity.

Interesting observation. I always thought the film was set in France because of the references to the fleur-de-lis. That and Aurora's presence in France at Epcot.

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[PrincessElsa]

Nevertheless, the double-headed eagle emblazoned on the wall can only represent the Holy Roman Empire, which inaugurated the use of this symbol:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reichsadler

There were a few duchies within the Holy Roman Empire (e.g., Brabant) that did, during certain periods, also use the fleur-de-lis in their heraldry.

Also, you will observe that both in the opening and closing ceremonies of the film, the hall is awash in fabric banners of every sort, likely honoring the visiting dignitaries.

The huge black Reichsadler, on the other hand, is tile-work impressed directly onto the masonry, thus adoring the stone wall of the castle itself, and therefore a permanent adornment, not removable, like a temporary banner.

[DancingCrab]

But, you know 3 months later, there has been nothing, but EXTREMELY positive news about FROZEN including new story plots (A LITTLE TOO MUCH ), the music, and news from the D23 Expo. And with the HUGE, EPIC plot and these positive news, I honestly think we have another Lion King in our hands. [/b]

A little friendly advice... NEVER, EVER, NEVER believe film hype before it is released. 90% of the information out there is what is planted by the studio and most of it is made to look like accidental leaks or "I read a comment on this website" etc. A perfect example is the latest Man of Steel movie. The "word on the street" was that it was going to be the most epic superhero movie of all time, fans were beyond pumped, it looked like it could do no wrong....then the critics PANNED it, and after the excitement died down, the fans basically became very devided and much of the movies ridiculous plot and dialogue became many a joke on the web. It still did very well, but it was not the next Dark Knight it was cracked up to be.

Not saying Frozen will repeat Man of Steel scenario, but just that it's wise to not put any movie up on a potential pedestal at the point right when the company is beginning it's underground hype campaign.