Hand-Drawn Animation Dead at Disney

[Musical Master]

Yes Kathy is the woman who did the supervising animation on Frollo and as for Frozen, she probably was on the animation units for either Elsa or Prince Hans. Other than that, we'll have to see the end credits to find out

[Kyle]

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[TsWade2]

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AWESOME!

[thelittleursula]

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[estefan]

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AWESOME! Did you see that, Lasseter? Learn from it, you miserable cowardly hawaiian shirt wearing moron!

Sorry. I know it's not necessary to say, but, when he says he's still doing hand drawn, but their not, except the upcoming short, I think John Lasseter is losing his marbles.
It's a figure of speech for being dumb.

I'm not one to jump to Lasseter's defense, but how many times do I have to say that the one holding back production of hand-drawn films is Bob Iger? You know, the guy who runs the entire company and has to say "yes" for any project to move forward, no matter how powerful and persuasive a figure you may be?

[Scamander]

Amazing. I didn't follow this thread for quite a while and decided to read up on it a bit. On page 53 I was so annoyed by some the repetitive posts, so I jumped straight to the last page and TsWade2 still laments about the same and the same in even the exact same words. Lol.

TsWade 2, her is a tip for you. If you love hand drawn animation so much, open up for the lots of stuff that is still coming from Europe, Japan and South Korea. It doesn't need to be Disney to be beautiful and it will spare you constant high blood pressure.

[TsWade2]

Amazing. I didn't follow this thread for quite a while and decided to read up on it a bit. On page 53 I was so annoyed by some the repetitive posts, so I jumped straight to the last page and TsWade2 still laments about the same and the same in even the exact same words. Lol.

TsWade 2, her is a tip for you. If you love hand drawn animation so much, open up for the lots of stuff that is still coming from Europe, Japan and South Korea. It doesn't need to be Disney to be beautiful and it will spare you constant high blood pressure.

I don't know if it'll help, but I'll try.

[TsWade2]

Never mind.

[Kyle]

You really have no idea how exhausting you are do you?

[Jules]

Never mind.

Gah! Now I want to know what you wrote!

Traitor!

[estefan]

He basically asked if John Lasseter wants to make another hand-drawn film.

I think he does, but as I've said plenty of times before, upper management is getting in the way and I think we will likely get one if a new CEO not so afraid of producing something that's not related to a brand name or 100% guaranteed success (though I think hand-drawn animation can be an easy sell, if marketed and handled properly) gets appointed to the position.

Basically, I see John Lasseter as holding the same amount of power that Harvey Weinstein had when he was working for Disney. They are both powerful and persuasive people (Weinstein doubly more than Lasseter) and they can produce whatever movie they want...as long as Iger/Eisner give the go-ahead. There were a number of controversial movies like Fahrenheit 9/11 and Dogma that Weinstein was forced to sell to other studios, because Eisner did not want Disney to distribute them. It's the same situation happening with Lasseter and Iger.

[disneyprincess11]

He basically asked if John Lasseter wants to make another hand-drawn film.

I think he does, but as I've said plenty of times before, upper management is getting in the way and I think we will likely get one if a new CEO not so afraid of producing something that's not related to a brand name or 100% guaranteed success (though I think hand-drawn animation can be an easy sell, if marketed and handled properly) gets appointed to the position.

Yeah, this makes sense on why he couldn't keep his promise. Poor guy :/

[TsWade2]

Never mind.

Gah! Now I want to know what you wrote!

Traitor!

Sorry. I just ask a question and Kyle says I was getting frustrated.

[Musical Master]

He basically asked if John Lasseter wants to make another hand-drawn film.

I think he does, but as I've said plenty of times before, upper management is getting in the way and I think we will likely get one if a new CEO not so afraid of producing something that's not related to a brand name or 100% guaranteed success (though I think hand-drawn animation can be an easy sell, if marketed and handled properly) gets appointed to the position.

Basically, I see John Lasseter as holding the same amount of power that Harvey Weinstein had when he was working for Disney. They are both powerful and persuasive people (Weinstein doubly more than Lasseter) and they can produce whatever movie they want...as long as Iger/Eisner give the go-ahead. There were a number of controversial movies like Fahrenheit 9/11 and Dogma that Weinstein was forced to sell to other studios, because Eisner did not want Disney to distribute them. It's the same situation happening with Lasseter and Iger.

I agree, if it was a different CEO who wasn't afraid to take more risks, then WDAS would have a mixture of CG and hand-drawn films like how 2009-2012 was. I know I'm going to get responses for this, but John Lasseter isn't a bad choice for cheif creative officer for the studio. Sure his management is questionable, but I would rather have his era at WDAS than 2000-2005, oh lord...

But as I have said, we just need to be calm and simply wait, fate will have hand-drawn animation back at Disney. Maybe not untill 10 years, but it will be worth it.

[unprincess]

Disney/Marvel made a deal to create exclusive films & series for Netflix. Wouldnt that be the perfect platform to release a 2d or hybrid film targeted to the animation fans that are clamoring for more 2d?

[Avaitor]

Disney/Marvel made a deal to create exclusive films & series for Netflix. Wouldnt that be the perfect platform to release a 2d or hybrid film targeted to the animation fans that are clamoring for more 2d?

That's not going to happen here. The series planned for Netflix are going to be live-action and continue to expand the movieverse in other ways. You'll have to stick to Disney XD to find animated series for Marvel.

[unprincess]

Disney/Marvel made a deal to create exclusive films & series for Netflix. Wouldnt that be the perfect platform to release a 2d or hybrid film targeted to the animation fans that are clamoring for more 2d?

That's not going to happen here. The series planned for Netflix are going to be live-action and continue to expand the movieverse in other ways. You'll have to stick to Disney XD to find animated series for Marvel.

heh I wasnt even thinking of Marvel animated films or series specifically. I was thinking more of riskier 2d or hybrid films from WDFA. If they dont want to risk releasing it to theaters they can release it diretly to Netflix, which I assume would be less expensive for them to do. and they could advertise it online directly to the animation fan community & on Disney.com & skip tv & theater advertisements saving more money.


oh & I forget to mention that i saw the John Lewis Holiday ad, & uh, just kill me now... so beautiful! I hope they make more shorts or we see more from Blaise & crew in the future.

[Semaj]

oh & I forget to mention that i saw the John Lewis Holiday ad, & uh, just kill me now... so beautiful! I hope they make more shorts or we see more from Blaise & crew in the future.

Sorta reminds me of when some of Disney's Florida animators tried to form their own studio. They only got as far as making storyboards for one short.

[estefan]

oh & I forget to mention that i saw the John Lewis Holiday ad, & uh, just kill me now... so beautiful! I hope they make more shorts or we see more from Blaise & crew in the future.

Sorta reminds me of when some of Disney's Florida animators tried to form their own studio. They only got as far as making storyboards for one short.

I think this might even be the same group of animators.

[unprincess]

thats the problem with all these little independant studios trying to start out on their own, animation, good quality animation, is hella expensive, its not like live action where you can pick up a digital camera and make a movie with your actor friends paying for their own expenses.
The only way 2d will really make a comeback is for someone with deep pockets to fund it...a big Hollywood studio or a big time director/producer etc...who has the pull to convince a studio to make it.