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Disney Duster wrote:I like how "adult" and "artsy" just seem to mean covered in shadow so you can't really see the characters...

...or being scarce with color, because, you know, the movies never used lots of color to make them beautiful...

'cause YOU KNOW, the actual artwork of the MOVIES actually looks like those covers.

And yes, I'm being very sarcastic.
No it means that it's actually creative and artistic - and not just the random airbrushed-clipart covers like the US ones... 8)
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Disney Duster wrote:I like how "adult" and "artsy" just seem to mean covered in shadow so you can't really see the characters...

...or being scarce with color, because, you know, the movies never used lots of color to make them beautiful...

'cause YOU KNOW, the actual artwork of the MOVIES actually looks like those covers.

And yes, I'm being very sarcastic.
No it means that it's actually creative and artistic - and not just the random airbrushed-clipart covers like the US ones... 8)
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271286 wrote:No it means that it's actually creative and artistic - and not just the random airbrushed-clipart covers like the US ones... 8)
Oh, because Beauty and the Beast's UK cover didn't just take the same clipart image that the Special Edition got and removed the color?

And all the covers with actual color didn't use any airbrushing?

And it really is "creative" to simply take the images from the American PE's and frame them in ovals in the center of the cover?
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Bring Back Gustaf Tenggren

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Well I hope that the next Snow White cover will be a return to an earlier era when Gustaf Tenggren's original poster design may be used instead of the ghastly Disney Princess redrawing of the characters!!
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271286 wrote:No it means that it's actually creative and artistic - and not just the random airbrushed-clipart covers like the US ones... 8)
Oh, because Beauty and the Beast's UK cover didn't just take the same clipart image that the Special Edition got and removed the color?
Um...less is more?

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If (or, rather, when) they re-release the Platinum titles, I really think they should use some of the old poster art, rather than go crazy with clipart. For 'Snow White' I'd love to see the original Tenggren poster as the cover. It's still the best Disney movie poster I've ever seen, and it manages to be eye-catching without being naff or inappropriately loud.
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Snow White being woken up by the prince would make a good cover, with the dwarfs around the her and the title.
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MagicMirror wrote:If (or, rather, when) they re-release the Platinum titles, I really think they should use some of the old poster art
I wish that Disney would have a line of DVDs in the future, and all the animated classics would have a movie poster as the cover art. I'd absolutely LOVE THAT!!!!!! :)

I do enjoy the original SW&t7D poster, but the characters look off-model (I've always assumed that that poster was made prior to the film being finished), so for a DVD cover, I'd rather have a newer poster for that film (just because the characters don't look right on the other poster, even though I do think that it's a neat poster).

Or (*ding*- that's the lightbulb going off in my head!)...You know how TV Guide will sometimes have multiple covers some weeks? Disney could do this with their animated classics...offer 2 or 3 different movie poster art covers, and let the consumer choose which cover he or she wants!!!! :) That'd be pretty cool...
Personally, though, in general, I don't care what the cover art looks like (I mean, I want the characters to be on-model, but besides that I don't really care). I think I prefer the US covers to those international covers posted above...I like colorful things, I guess.
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These days Classic Villains feature largely in poster art!

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With the Gustaf Tenggren poster being a notable exception, the older movie poster artistss rarely used the villains in the posters , these days the classic villains are very often used to actually sell the movies!

I have no problem with this as I think the villains make the movies - without the Wicked Queen there would have been no Snow White after all!
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SwordInTheStone777 wrote:Snow White being woken up by the prince would make a good cover, with the dwarfs around the her and the title.
That's a bigger spoiler than having a cover to the Sixth Sense with Bruce Willis on the cover with a speech bubble saying "I am dead." :D
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the 70th anniversary poster looks great for a dvd cover.
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Can you supply an image of the 70th Anniversary Poster?

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Can you or another reader of this forum supply an image of the 70th Anniversary Poster? There should be a 75th Anniversary issue of this iconic movie coming up very soon , maybe Disney will then produce anther theatrical re-issue for the 75th plus lots of very special merchandising?

Snow White ,after all, was the first full length technicolor animated sound cartoon, and the first fil to have it's own soundtrack album ( on 78 rpm in those days! ) and the first film which was so actively merchandised!
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Re: Can you supply an image of the 70th Anniversary Poster?

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Deco King wrote: maybe Disney will then produce anther theatrical re-issue for the 75th plus lots of very special merchandising?
I think that the only chance SW&t7D has for a theatrical re-issue is at the El Capitan. I don't know even if they'd do that, but, if there was to be one, that's probably where it'd be.
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Well, I for one don't like recycled art in general, whether it be clipart or the posters. I really want whole new art with whole new concepts, but I know so many fans want the posters on the covers. So, I decree that we wish for re-drawn versions of the posters to make the characters as precisely on-model as we can, because a lot of the theatrical posters featured stylized versions of the characters that didn't match the film versions (especially the really early Disney posters).

Snow White's 70th Anniversary poster sort of did that. It's the Gustaf Tenggren poster re-drawn to actually make the characters look like they do in the movie!

But I also would want color, and shadow that matches the films, to. They can paint them realistically and blend the shadows and highlights, ect., much like airbrushing, but I don't want some stylization that's "artsy" to make Snow White all shades of red or something.

You can be artsy and still be faithful. The original movie was art, too, ya know.

And for all of you who wanted to see those old covers on the DVDs, your wish has magically come true, as happens to so many a hero and heroine in a Disney film, and like the settings of those fairy tale films, it's in a far away land - in Japan!:
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Those covers are great, though I would have preferred that the posters themselves be used as wraparounds rather than placed inside a new frame.

I don't think the Tenggren poster is excessively off-model, and I think it sums up the film better than any 'on-model' poster or cover that's been done since. It's the general old-world look and handmade quality (you can guarantee that any poster or cover done today would simply be photoshopped) that give it a unique quality.

Just some thoughts on posters that would make good covers for DVDs (not all first release posters):

Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs: http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa14 ... 1197399072 (well you knew that, but this is a larger version of the image than most)

Pinocchio: http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa14 ... 1197398622 (here the poster would have to be edited slightly)

Fantasia: http://eu.movieposter.com/poster/MPW-27 ... tasia.html (or http://eu.movieposter.com/poster/MPW-6571/Fantasia.html if you're feeling adventurous!)

Sleeping Beauty: http://eu.movieposter.com/poster/b70-86 ... eauty.html
blackcauldron85 wrote:Or (*ding*- that's the lightbulb going off in my head!)...You know how TV Guide will sometimes have multiple covers some weeks? Disney could do this with their animated classics...offer 2 or 3 different movie poster art covers, and let the consumer choose which cover he or she wants!!!! :) That'd be pretty cool...
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I think the original covers are beautiful... However they seem very dated... I dont think they would appeal to the wider audience...

That not said the covers couldn't have been used for special collector appealing releases... Before it was revealed that the new Oswald treasure tin is gold I had an idea for a new Treasures series - Disney classics in golden tins... The releases could accompagny the PE releases as very limited numbered collection... I made these quick mock-up for a Sleeping Beauty and BaTB:


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Some posters aren't that appealing, but "Snow White"'s poster is awesome! I mean, it dosen't totally have to be the same poster, it can be changed and modified. It's not as important as the movie. Consumers shouldn't just blindly buy something because the cover is bright. I mean, no Disney movies are that "bright" except for the newer ones. Plus, I don't think the movies would suffer marketing the orginal (slightly modified) posters. It would probably boost sales.
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Well, of course Tenggren had a hand in the looks of Snow White and Pinocchio, so those posters have that going for it that the new posters won't have because most of the people who worked significantly on the films are dead. Eyvind Earle isn't alive, so he can't make a Sleeping Beauty poster, which, if he did, would surely be incredible.

Oh, and Magic Mirror, yea, on model is the correct term, here's a link or two that care to agree, so you don't have to put that term in quotes since it's not opinion but fact that the characters in Tenggren's poster do not match the model sheets of the final, finished film.

And if you just put that in quotes because you were quoting me, well oopsiemybad.

And 271286 brings up that Beauty and the Beast poster that almost makes no sense. Once again in proves the sophisticated "collector" artwork insists throwing the characters in shadow is more grown-up, somehow.

I've also seen Aladdin posters that are extremely dark. I think the posters are actually previewing the movie to come. You call them the original theatrical posters just because they came first, which is technically correct, but it's odd that during the run of the films they had both dark and bright "kiddy" posters (remember the poster with Belle in pink and purple), so I would say the dark ones were previews, the bright ones where you actually see the characters more for an audience who wanted to know what they would be seeing instead of a glimpse.

And I'm serious here, I think those are posters only previewing the film, discuss it with me. Here, the preview poster is on the left, the theatrical one on the right:
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Now, Beauty and the Beast had a re-release, but I know both those posters came out duing it's debut, so I'd say the first one is a mere sneak peek at the film to come. Same case with Aladdin, which had no re-release so those two posters definately came out during the same run.

Now, if you really wanna see a really artistic Disney poster, here:
EDIT: This is the IMAX 2002 re-release poster, by the way:
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Not only is it beautiful, and cleverly uses the Enchanted rose which is so essential and symbolic in the film, but it is very artistic and creative. Notice how the Beast's silhouette is formed by the dark, imposing shadows, which perfectly represents his dark personality and dark situation, while a red/pink rose petal forms Belle's silhouette, representing her delicacy, her beauty, and the life and vitality she brings to the Beast. She is the warm bright light that saves him from the cold dark shadows.

Covering all the characters in shadows doesn't do that.

If anything, putting the characters in the dark would make the most sense for Cinderella, since she and the prince met and fell in love in the dark, and probably for a reason (it turns them blue, a color that represents the calm and good specifically in the movie, if you'd notice what characters wear blue and when).
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I've seen the BATB poster on the right before, and I have to say it's one of the ugliest posters I've ever seen. I guess we need to mention here that everything's a matter of taste.


Anyway, if I remember correctly, that rose is on the US Platinum. It's in the lower-left hand corner, correct?


I suppose I was incorrect. I just looked. I could have sworn it was on the cover though. I wonder where I've seen that before, cause I know I've seen it before.
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