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Disney Guru wrote:Well I have a lot of DVD"s and don't buy VHS's anymore but I have a lot of doubles where i have it on VHS/DVD but I won't sell my VHS's they all bring back memories. And what is up with this demagnification garbage? I have movies that are 20 years old and + and they still play like new!
If you continue to play them, at least once a year say, or even just fast forward/rewind tapes, they should last a bit longer. The problem with tapes is that if they sit idle for too long, there is less of a chance of them working well as time goes by. The fact remains though - over time, a VHS tape will lose its signal strength. I challenge you to do a frame by frame comparision of an old VHS and a DVD, as done here (which also highlights how important widescreen is, something else VHS didn't offer on the majority of titles):
http://dvd.ign.com/news/15687.html

You might find this more with stuff you've recorded yourself, and less so with pre-recorded ones. However, any analogue format is going to be susceptible to this degradation. Heat, light, magnets, non-magnetically shielded speakers are all enemies to your VHS tapes.

Yes, I have old tapes that still play well, but that is because I have watched them on a semi-regular basis. But there is no argument in the fact that VHS tapes degrade over time, and to the best of our knowledge DVD doesn't have that problem (although it is a new technology).

Plus, if you live in an NTSC zone, to make it affordable to the consumer the standards for NTSC standard broadcast quality video were greatly compromised.

For longevity, it is hard to argue any format is currently superior for the consumer market to a digital one available on a 5" shiny disc - i.e a DVD.
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Of Course it's worth it to upgrade your VHS to DVD.
I almost have my whole collection of Disney Animated Films from Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs to Home on the Range.
DVD's have better quality, color, extras, and will last even longer then VHS.
Most people don't own VCR anymore and some of their VHS tapes are either mess up or broken.
None of mine are broken or mess up so I could watch them again and again but prefer to own DVD instead.
I wasn't a big VHS person so I only bought Disney films and some good films like Batman series and the Terminator series.
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Yes mine have lasted because I watch my VHS on a regular Basis hey does anybody know an inexpensive way to transfer from VHS to DVD ?

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Disney Guru wrote:Yes mine have lasted because I watch my VHS on a regular Basis hey does anybody know an inexpensive way to transfer from VHS to DVD ?
Get a DVD Recorder?

You can have them done commercially, but a lot of places (at least here) charge an arm and a leg.
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Loomis wrote:
Disney Guru wrote:Yes mine have lasted because I watch my VHS on a regular Basis hey does anybody know an inexpensive way to transfer from VHS to DVD ?
Get a DVD Recorder?
I really need to get one of those. I have probably 300+ tapes of nothing but soap operas since 1999, and they take up A LOT of room. For me, it's not a matter of picture quality concerning these tapes, just space. Unfortunately, most (if not all) were recorded in 6-hour EP mode, and DVD-R's only hold...an hour and a half? Maybe I'll just wait for the day when they release a 6 hour DVD-R.

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i heard that you can put up to over 100 3-minute-length songs onto a CD-R by just placing them in files. i think this is called an MP3 and i think it could be done the same with movies on DVD-R
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Yeah, which is good for storage, but then you can only watch them as video files on the computer, right? Or can you watch them on regular DVD players like that?

I agree with everyone here, DVD is infinitely superior to VHS in every single way, for the reasons already stated. Of course, you've gotta prioritize, because money is a factor. Follow DisneyKid's advice for that. I think you'll definitely be glad you converted once you do.

Oh, btw, Loomis, that's a fantastic link.

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I agree with many here it is best to upgrade to DVD I have to admitt that I was against it at first I lvoe my VHS and have so many of them. But a lot of my movies are no longer in the best conditions.And the bonus feature on the DVDs are always the best. I think its worth it. And there have already been a few movies that I have bought double as well.
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For Escapay:

let's see... 300 6 hour tapes at EP VHS...

that's 1800 hours. DVD-Rs hold 1 hour at maximum quality but they can hold a lot more if you're willing to compress and compress.

VHS EP is theoretically 1/3 or 1/5th DVD quality.. but i don't know if you'd like the quality of a 4 hour DVD-R made from them.

but lets see, 1800/4 = 450 DVD-R's

Maybe you could find a friend that has a DVD Recorder or a friendly knowledgable salesperson that would let you try one of your tapes to see how much you can compress and still be acceptable.

If you're willing to go the PC rout with computer files, the other thing to try would be with something like WM9 or Dvdx/xiDV and all the new alphabetDxsoup of mpeg4 compression codecs, some supposedly compress up to 6 times more than DVD's mpeg2. So VHS EP quality compressed the original 4 times plus the new codecs 6x gives 4 x 6 = 24x

1800/24 = 75 DVD-Rs. What's the price of DVD-Rs in bulk? $1? 50 cents? (i honestly have no idea cus i haven't bought one.) (yet. :twisted: ) so we're talking from $50 to $500 on DVD-Rs (Not counting the harware) depending on the the method/codecs and the amount of quality you're willing to put up with.

They would take a lot less space specially if you stored them in thinline CD cases. (Or if you dare, in a DVD-R spindle!)

The problem I really see here, is the cueing up of 1800 hours of VHS tape into a DVD recorder or even slower video card/computerPC system and the zillion hours it would take to compress them. Even if you did it the fastest way (DVD recorder) it'll take veeery long.

Well you meant to watch them again someday, didn't you? :)

As for where you can watch these things, well if you do them as standart DVD's they are supposed to play on DVD players. But some newer DVD players are supposedly coming out (or gonna come out) with WM9 or Mpeg4 support. Otherwise as Aaron said you'll have to play them on your computer. (But the computer could have a TV output (mine is 7 years old and has it) so you could watch them on your TV if that's what you need)

(And yes, there are "6 hour" DVD-Rs but they are blue blue blue and japanese ;) still very expensive.)

We have to see what happens when the next generation DVD-carrier dust settles out (which hasn't even started spinning yet) cus then many players will have support for one or more of this advanced codecs.

If your tapes are deteriorating fast, well you have no choice to start transfering now. If they are holding on, well you could wait a little while...
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I should upgrade my Princess Diaries widescreen single disk with the new special edition princess diaries?????????
i dont know sometimes i think aboutthe speciaal feautures, but its like trew the money to the trashcan becouse I already have it, I don´t know! :? :?
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Lumiere, here's DisneyKid's advice on that: http://www.ultimatedisney.com/forum/vie ... ght=#61138

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Wondering what Disney DVD to buy (my first DVD!)

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I bought a DVD set recently and wanted to buy Disney DVDs but I'm kinda short of cash right now so I was hoping you would help me :lol:

Naturally, I want my first one to be a Platinum Edition one. Now, I'm absolutely dying to see "Snow White" in its restored version. I always liked it but the grainy, dark, fading colors of the VHS pretty much bugged me!
Now I've read tens of reviews on the net on the DVD and how clear, pristine, amazing, vibrant, and new the picture now looks. So it's very tempting to buy it. But then we have "Beauty and the Beast" which has a new song added to it ... Somehow I'm less interested in "The Lion King". Definitely gonna buy it though.
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If you're looking to buy an animated Disney DVD, these are the multi-disc sets that are most praiseworthy in my opinion, in alphabetical order:

<a href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/ ... emz">Alice in Wonderland: Masterpiece Edition</a> (<a href="http://www.ultimatedisney.com/alice.html">Review</a>)
<a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/associates/lin ... 8Y">Beauty and the Beast: Platinum Edition</a> (<a href="http://www.ultimatedisney.com/beauty.htm">Review</a>) (<b>Out of Print</b>)
<a href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/ ... z">Brother Bear</a> (<a href="http://www.ultimatedisney.com/brotherbe ... >Review</a>)
<a href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/ ... ovemz">The Emperor's New Groove: Ultimate Groove</a> (<a href="http://www.ultimatedisney.com/emperor.html">Review</a>)
<a href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/ ... ovemz">The Lion King: Platinum Edition</a> (<a href="http://www.ultimatedisney.com/thelionki ... >Review</a>)
<a href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/ ... ">Fantasia & Fantasia 2000: The Fantasia Anthology</a> (<a href="http://www.ultimatedisney.com/fantasia.html">Review</a>) (<b>Recently Out of Print</b>)
<a href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/ ... ">Sleeping Beauty: Special Edition</a> (<a href="http://www.ultimatedisney.com/sleepingb ... >Review</a>) (<b>Recently Out of Print</b>)
<a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/associates/lin ... CXCQ">Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs: Platinum Edition</a> (<a href="http://www.ultimatedisney.com/snowwhite.html">Review</a>) (<b>Out of Print</b>)
<a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/associates/lin ... 50">Tarzan: Collector's Edition</a> (<a href="http://www.ultimatedisney.com/tarzan.html">Review</a>) (<b>Out of Print</b>)
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If you can find Fantasia or Sleeping Beauty sets at this point pick them up. Those should be the two you are concentrating on for the moment.
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JimmyJackJunior wrote:If you can find Fantasia or Sleeping Beauty sets at this point pick them up. Those should be the two you are concentrating on for the moment.
Yeah, because it's mostly impossible to find Snow White, or Beauty and the Beast. But, if you find Snow White or Beauty and the Beast, then pick them up without a second thought. I was lucky to find Snow White at Suncoast, and it had been out of print for a while, it was like after BatB was out on DVD that I got SW. So look at Suncoast for SW or BatB. But if you cna't find them there, then try the internet. But I really liked the Sleeping Beauty DVD.
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What's weird is I've been seeing BATB constantly in two stores near me but never bothered to buy it. Now I know I will :)

And thanks for the advice everybody :D
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Hey Man,

Just buy what you can afford dude. That is all you need to do just do what you can afford.
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