Saving Mr. Banks

[PatrickvD]

It won't get nominated for Best Picture.

But I do see a nomination for Tom Hanks or Emma Thompson. Most likely Thompson.

[UmbrellaFish]

In a field of ten possible nominees? A movie about Hollywood? Released at the height of Oscar season? About the most Oscar winning individual?

If the movie gets good reviews or has good box office, and if Disney campaigns for it, this movie will be nominated for Best Picture.

Winning that award is a much bigger stretch.

[disneyboy20022]

I think this very easily could be getting a nominee for best picture. These types of period films end up there and the fact that this IS Walt Disney and more about how he got the author of Mary Poppins to let him make the movie, I think this from the looks of it is very worthy and could get nominated for an Academy Award for best picture and other categories such as best actress, best actor etc. If the film is as good as the trailer, it will find itself nominated in quite a few categories. Now winning them I'm not convinced, but time will tell.

EDIT

forum member Candy-Bonita95 has created a thread which we can continue talking about Walt himself and his beliefs that have been discussed in this thread can now be disussed here. It's in the off topic section so I'll let a mod decide if they want to move it, but I suggest talking in this thread soley about this movie and continue our side debates in this thread below so we can stay on topic

http://www.dvdizzy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=31013

[PatrickvD]

I think the fact that it's mostly based on lies is going to work against it. I can't see critics giving this a positive rating.

But I will be happily proven wrong.

[estefan]

I don't think there exists one biopic or film based on real events that is entirely accurate. I think all critics are aware these movies take some artistic license in telling their stories. Argo changed a lot of things (the ending, in particular, which is almost nothing like what happened in reality) and yet, that got rave reviews and frequently cited as the best film of the year.

So, no, I don't think them changing a lot of events will mean it is guaranteed to get negative reviews.

[UmbrellaFish]

As I wrote this, estefan replied before me. I agree with his point regarding "Argo," but I'm still posting my original response.

I think the fact that it's mostly based on lies is going to work against it. I can't see critics giving this a positive.

I can concede that. But [based on reports from those who have read the script] I would argue that for all intents and purposes the movie is mostly factual, and the story has been drummed up for dramatization purposes to service the of the story, not the memory of Walt Disney. And since the movie is strongly sympathetic to Travers (who is actually the lead), the studio will likely be commended for that.

The one part that raises my eyebrow is the ending. Travers sees the film, cries about it just as she did in real life-- but the spin is that she's actually crying because the movie touched her, because finally Mary Poppins "saved" Mr. Banks. I want to see if Disney can get away with that, and I'm beginning to think they can.

[Tristy]

I don't think there exists one biopic or film based on real events that is entirely accurate. I think all critics are aware these movies take some artistic license in telling their stories. Argo changed a lot of things (the ending, in particular, which is almost nothing like what happened in reality) and yet, that got rave reviews and frequently cited as the best film of the year.

So, no, I don't think them changing a lot of events will mean it is guaranteed to get negative reviews.

Also, Ed Wood never met Orson Welles and there was some debate as to how much Bela Lugosi swore and yet that movie was considered to be Tim Burton's finest.

[disneyboy20022]

I've seen in this thread that perhaps Tom Hanks was a miscast for Walt Disney in this movie.

I would then then ask to those who think that, who would you have cast instead of Tom Hanks that would be better for this role?

[Mooky]

^^
- Ryan Gosling
*

*fake, but representative of what could (have) be(en)

- Edward Norton
- Ethan Hawke
- Hugh Jackman
- Joseph Fiennes

I thought Disney said they were done with fairy tales...

[estefan]

I would then then ask to those who think that, who would you have cast instead of Tom Hanks that would be better for this role?

I'm not going to judge Tom Hanks' performance without seeing the full film, but considering this is an older Walt, I can see David Strathairn in the role.

[disneyboy20022]

Yeah this is an older Walt Disney so I don't think Ryan Gosling would work in this particular film.

[PatrickvD]

I don't think there exists one biopic or film based on real events that is entirely accurate. I think all critics are aware these movies take some artistic license in telling their stories. Argo changed a lot of things (the ending, in particular, which is almost nothing like what happened in reality) and yet, that got rave reviews and frequently cited as the best film of the year.

So, no, I don't think them changing a lot of events will mean it is guaranteed to get negative reviews.

Not guaranteed. I'm speculating.

But unless they incorporate the fact that Travers hated the final film, it will be a pretty big twist on reality. A lie.

[disneyboy20022]

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[Mr arrow]

I don't think it's entirely fair to dismiss this film as based on lies as someone remarked when quite obviously it is based on an actual series of meetings between the author and the producer... Minutes and tapes were made of all story meetings between the Shermans, Da Gradi, Walsh and Disney and some of these have been released...Robert Sherman referred to Travers as an old witch which implies that the meetings were probably more colourful than those in the final film. Travers biography talks about the long, protracted negotiations between herself and the producer....and for anyone who has listened to the meeting demo tapes disney has released of some of these story meetings there is no question that Travers was a complex personality...someone made the comment that they will probably have Travers liking the film in the end....well the truth is actually more interesting...many years ago I read that one of her relatives claimed that yes Travers openly hated the film...however this relative also claimed that secretly she saw it many times (perhaps as much as 11 or 12) so much for hating it lol. However, this was from a magazine article in the seventies so I don't know if it can be verified.
When writing a screenplay the only way to make it work is to take the ingredients you have and to flesh it out in a way that will make it interesting....read her own accounts and those of the Sherman Bros and I'll think you'll find it has all the ingredients of a good story if edited in an engaging way...but to dismiss it as lies is I think a bit unfair...

[DisneyJedi]

What? That makes no sense. If one hates a movie, then why would they bother seeing it again eleven more times in theaters?

[Mr arrow]

Exactly! Its called irony....That's the point ...secretly she loved it...read her biography she was quite a complex character! And in her later years she did confess that she loved the film...

Also can anyone remember the documentary that did release some of the demo tapes where she was having a hissy fit!? I know I've heard them but I can't remember where?
It's definitely not on the Mary Poppins cd...where they managed to find recordings where she was decidedly agreeable..

[Mr arrow]

From all accounts Kelly Marcell's script was well researched and also well received .... So much so that Kelly has been assigned to adapt the screenplay for another story about prickly negotiations....Fifty Shades of Grey....


And little Mermaid apparently...

http://www.deadline.com/2013/06/shiftin ... e-mermaid/

[TheSequelOfDisney]

And little Mermaid apparently...

http://www.deadline.com/2013/06/shiftin ... e-mermaid/

Nice! I love Joe Wright's work! It'll be great to see another version (probably one much more accurate, so to say) of Andersen's tale.

[DisneyJedi]

Exactly! Its called irony....That's the point ...secretly she loved it...read her biography she was quite a complex character! And in her later years she did confess that she loved the film...

What?!

[Mr arrow]

TheSequelOfDisney said

Nice! I love Joe Wright's work! It'll be great to see another version (probably one much more accurate, so to say) of Andersen's tale.

Yes I agree with you...In the right hands it could be quite promising! And maybe Kelly Marcel is up to the challenge..There was a lot of buzz going round about Kelly's script for Saving Mr Banks...At one stage I think it was with the BBC prior to being sold to Disney...
I think I am losing faith in Linda Wolverton as a screenplay writer...I wasn't overly impressed with her adaptation of Maleficent that I read anyway...but I guess we will have to wait and see...