Tangled Discussion - Part V

PatrickvD · Post by **PatrickvD** » Sat Nov 27, 2010 5:28 am

Victurtle wrote:
PatrickvD wrote:The Box Office is now officially on fire for Tangled:

I cannot believe the morons of Disney's marketing department actually got something right for a change. There will be lots of champagne and tears monday morning in the Hat building. Tangled is locked to become the biggest moneymaker since The Lion King...
How can you call them morons if they do so well? They did the same thing as Bridge To Terabithia (advertised it as if it were Narnia) and it was very successful. I don't think you should call them morons just because they don't do something the way you would do it.

I'm calling them morons because they've made everything that isn't Pixar or Tim Burton crash and burn the last few years. And of course the ads for Tangled were horrible.

But sure I applaud them for finally getting it right. It's sad that all integrity had to be thrown out of the window.

RyGuy · Post by **RyGuy** » Sat Nov 27, 2010 6:30 am

DancingCrab wrote:
Jackoleen wrote: THE TRULY OBJECTIONABLE: I was DISGUSTED when Rapunzel pushed Mother Gothel, brutally, against the wall! She pushed her TWICE, and, in my opinion, those two pushes totally ruined the idea of Rapunzel being a truly cool character.
What two instances are you referring to exactly? I've seen the film a few times and didn't notice Rapunzel pushing Gothel up against the wall. When Gothel breaks the mirror, it's her own fault, she yanks her hand away from Rapunzel's grip and loses her balance and knocks over the mirror. There was no shove or push by Rapunzel there at all. That was the only instance where I could see maybe you would think something like that happened.

I agree. I saw the film a second time yesterday and remembered Jackoleen's comments so I was actually watching for this. I agree with Dancing Crab's summation of the first instance. The second instance, I think, was where Mother Gothel leans in to stroke Rapunzel's hair and Rapunzel grabs Mother Gothel's forearm to stop her. While that would certainly be frowned upon in the school yard ("I will keep my hands, feet and all other objects to myself") I think it is a perfectly understandable response from someone who has just realized she has been manipulated by this woman her whole life. Rapunzel is taking her power back here. I don't think I would classify it as domestic violence (I don't mean to put words in anyone's mouth . . . that was just my recollection of how someone classified it).

SPOILER ALERT

For those who were dissatisfied at Rapunzel's lack of any compassion for Mother Gothel after Rapunzel figures out she is the lost princess, I also noticed (and it is very brief) that right before Mother Gothel falls out the window, Rapunzel reaches for her with a look horror on her face. It may not be as Divine Secrets of the Ya-Ya Sisterhood as some would like, but for me, it was enough to show that Rapunzel had not thrown away all humantiy (again, not trying to put words in anyone's mouth here).

robster16 · Post by **robster16** » Sat Nov 27, 2010 6:34 am

PatrickvD wrote:The Box Office is now officially on fire for Tangled:

Tangled 3D (Disney) NEW [3,603 Runs]
Wednesday $11.8M, Thursday $8.1M, Friday $22M
Estimated 3-Day Weekend $53M, Estimated 5-Day Holiday $73M

I cannot believe the morons of Disney's marketing department actually got something right for a change. There will be lots of champagne and tears monday morning in the Hat building. Tangled is locked to become the biggest moneymaker since The Lion King...

The amazing this is also that Tangled made only 1 million dollars less then Harry Potter. And the total figure expected for Potter is 83 million, a difference of merely 10 million dollars. Which is amazing, considering what people were expecting!

eralkfang · Post by **eralkfang** » Sat Nov 27, 2010 6:36 am

I am so glad this is succeeding. It's a wonderful film and there's a lot of word of mouth going on for not only the little ones, but also adults–it composes essentially a third of updates on my Facebook feed at the moment (a friend of mine just saw it for the second time).

blackcauldron85 wrote:Maybe that's why so many of us like it...? It definitely had "Kiss the Girl" vibes, but I adore "Kiss the Girl"..

Oh, I love "Kiss the Girl", too! (Although that one shot of Ariel's forehead in the scene has always freaked me out.) I really liked that "I See the Light" paid homage to it.

phan258 wrote:If anyone was wondering about the monkey in the turban, the artbook says there was a scrapped idea to have Flynn & Rapunzel meet a band of gypsies....so I'm guessing that's where it's from.

Huh! I think Bastion looks Romani (and that would have fit in with the apparently abandoned 1800s direction for some of the concept art), so perhaps that was a last remnant of Bastion.

Did anybody else notice that the pub thug who is sent to go get the guards is an old design of Flynn's? The friend I saw this with (not a Disney freak by any stretch) noticed he was wearing the same colors as Flynn. I really wish I could find a picture, but I know that design is definitely in the art book–it's the design that's halfway between bear!Flynn and our Flynn.

And I have a question–when Flynn and Rapunzel are in the bookstore or library looking through an atlas, was the map a normal map of our world? My friend swears it was, but I'm not sure. It would certainly explain the Mozart reference if the Kingdom is one of those fictional bonus European countries…

Sotiris · Post by **Sotiris** » Sat Nov 27, 2010 7:06 am

Mobje · Post by **Mobje** » Sat Nov 27, 2010 8:00 am

I'm seeing Rapunzel (dutch title) later today....in less than 3 hours to be exact

Can't wait!

Just found the first cam version of the movie and had to skip through the movie a bit...
Saw snippets of the first 25 minutes or so...WWMLB and WWMLB Reprise 2...that's it!! haha
Saving the rest for later!
(Quality sucks anyway)

Fairytales · Post by **Fairytales** » Sat Nov 27, 2010 8:04 am

Mobje wrote:I'm seeing Rapunzel (dutch title) later today....in less than 3 hours to be exact
Can't wait!

Just found the first cam version of the movie and had to skip through the movie a bit...
Saw snippets of the first 25 minutes or so...WWMLB and WWMLB Reprise 2...that's it!! haha
Saving the rest for later!
(Quality sucks anyway)

can you give me the link?
I've searched everywhere yesterday but i could not find it!

LucilleBallFilms · Post by **LucilleBallFilms** » Sat Nov 27, 2010 8:04 am

Mobje wrote:I'm seeing Rapunzel (dutch title) later today....in less than 3 hours to be exact
Can't wait!

Just found the first cam version of the movie and had to skip through the movie a bit...
Saw snippets of the first 25 minutes or so...WWMLB and WWMLB Reprise 2...that's it!! haha
Saving the rest for later!
(Quality sucks anyway)

Post Edited for showing link/clip or somesort of cam

Mobje · Post by **Mobje** » Sat Nov 27, 2010 8:23 am

Fairytales wrote:
Mobje wrote:I'm seeing Rapunzel (dutch title) later today....in less than 3 hours to be exact
Can't wait!

Just found the first cam version of the movie and had to skip through the movie a bit...
Saw snippets of the first 25 minutes or so...WWMLB and WWMLB Reprise 2...that's it!! haha
Saving the rest for later!
(Quality sucks anyway)
can you give me the link?
I've searched everywhere yesterday but i could not find it!

Yeah sure!
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=NVW8G3RJ

Before i get any remarks about posting the cam url...
I think we all agree that nothing can top a cinema experience, especially in comparising to a low quality cam release!!

Fairytales · Post by **Fairytales** » Sat Nov 27, 2010 8:24 am

I am so ashamed of myself... and still so happy!

I watched the 'Tear Heals' scene....well, i covered my eyes until they kissed.
I had to! i haddd tooo. I can't wait a week without knowing what it looks like....
And it was so sweet and beautiful and Flynn saying: did i tell you i have a thing for brunettes?
ooooh i know i shouldn't have.... I feel stupid and happy and stupid.
And happy...

Mobje · Post by **Mobje** » Sat Nov 27, 2010 8:25 am

LucilleBallFilms wrote:
Mobje wrote:I'm seeing Rapunzel (dutch title) later today....in less than 3 hours to be exact
Can't wait!

Just found the first cam version of the movie and had to skip through the movie a bit...
Saw snippets of the first 25 minutes or so...WWMLB and WWMLB Reprise 2...that's it!! haha
Saving the rest for later!
(Quality sucks anyway)
You found a cam? D: I've been searching all day yesterday and all morning Tangled is hard to track down, but I wouldn't care it it was total garbage and no sound We want your cam Mobje...all of us
EDIT: I Found It! Here's the quality:
http://lulzimg.com/i9/6cedb916.jpg
and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AlFN9ri7AVk

Haha good

Be careful with that first link guys...spoiler!

Mobje · Post by **Mobje** » Sat Nov 27, 2010 8:28 am

Fairytales wrote:I am so ashamed of myself... and still so happy!

I watched the 'Tear Heals' scene....well, i covered my eyes until they kissed.
I had to! i haddd tooo. I can't wait a week without knowing what it looks like....
And it was so sweet and beautiful and Flynn saying: did i tell you i have a thing for brunettes?
ooooh i know i shouldn't have.... I feel stupid and happy and stupid.
And happy...

I wouldn't want to see that yet

haha

Why are you waiting for another week?
You're also Dutch, right?

wafflenugget · Post by **wafflenugget** » Sat Nov 27, 2010 8:40 am

Mobje wrote:
Fairytales wrote: can you give me the link?
I've searched everywhere yesterday but i could not find it!
Yeah sure!
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=NVW8G3RJ

Before i get any remarks about posting the cam url...
I think we all agree that nothing can top a cinema experience, especially in comparising to a low quality cam release!!

Thanks

I'm definitely going to see it again in theatres, but I just can't wait until then!

LucilleBallFilms · Post by **LucilleBallFilms** » Sat Nov 27, 2010 8:58 am

I just remembered the one problem I had with Tangled

I felt that When Will My Life Begin and Mother Knows Best were too close, it was almost like song and song right after the other to me, I don't know why and doubt they were, it just felt that way.

DancingCrab · Post by **DancingCrab** » Sat Nov 27, 2010 9:09 am

LucilleBallFilms wrote:I just remembered the one problem I had with Tangled
I felt that When Will My Life Begin and Mother Knows Best were too close, it was almost like song and song right after the other to me, I don't know why and doubt they were, it just felt that way.

That probably is why they decided to take out WWMLB reprise 1, and edit down the length of Mother Knows Best. Had to get to the Flynn action before boys started getting antsy. lol

Sotiris · Post by **Sotiris** » Sat Nov 27, 2010 9:11 am

I present to you, our fellow member Poody singing "I See the Light".

DancingCrab · Post by **DancingCrab** » Sat Nov 27, 2010 9:26 am

Wow...nice vocal chops Poody. You sounded a lot like Zach.

Thanks for the video post Sotiris

LucilleBallFilms · Post by **LucilleBallFilms** » Sat Nov 27, 2010 9:29 am

Don't mind me

but this was basically me for an hour after I saw Tangled

Fairytales · Post by **Fairytales** » Sat Nov 27, 2010 9:35 am

Mobje wrote:
Fairytales wrote:I am so ashamed of myself... and still so happy!

I watched the 'Tear Heals' scene....well, i covered my eyes until they kissed.
I had to! i haddd tooo. I can't wait a week without knowing what it looks like....
And it was so sweet and beautiful and Flynn saying: did i tell you i have a thing for brunettes?
ooooh i know i shouldn't have.... I feel stupid and happy and stupid.
And happy...
I wouldn't want to see that yet haha

Why are you waiting for another week?
You're also Dutch, right?

Yeah, i am! I'm gonna watch it next Friday on 3 december, with my sister!
How come you could see it so early? I thought it didn't come out until December first in holland. Or are you going to the press release?

Fairytales · Post by **Fairytales** » Sat Nov 27, 2010 9:37 am

LucilleBallFilms wrote:Don't mind me but this was basically me for an hour after I saw Tangled

Lemme guess... is that from the "We want the girl with the magic hair." part?

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