Spider-Man 3

[Anthony]

I'm gonna avoid the weekend rush and see it on Monday. I don't really have high expectations for this movie, but still looking forward to seeing it.

[Timon/Pumbaa fan]

Um, no. Shame on critics for expecting Spiderman 2 v2.1 instead of something different and fresh. A lot of critics only gave it a flop of a review because it wasn't pretty much like Spiderman 2. Anyone who expects a recreation of work made almost 6 years ago is very likely to be disappointed with the final product.

That's funny. Aren't you the UD member who has an entire history of bashing Disney's DTVs all because "they don't top the original"?

Just based on the trailers and advertisements, I have to agree it looks cluttered. In fact, having seen the new Fantastic Four and the Silver Surfer trailer yesterday, I think it looks far better than Spider-Man 3 and am anticipating it MUCH more. While the director of FF has promised more action-packed film and a more darker story, he still hasn't forgotten to make the film very fun and respectful to both the comics and original film. Spider-Man 3, on the other hand, looks so cluttered and shows that Raimi is trying way too hard trying to top the first two(let's face it, the expectations and standards ARE set extremely high) that he forgotten to make the story well paced and balanced and just make a good movie.

Of course, this is just speculatin on the trailers, but with the reviews being negative, I'm not at all surprised.

But still, negative criticism or not, I'm still seeing it! A ranch of mad-cow infected bovines couldn't keep me away from a new installment of Spider-Man, and with an IMAX near me, I'm definitely sure I'll enjoy it on some level, and I'll leave all the final judgements until I see it at least once.

I just doubt it'll raise the bars after the fantastic Spider-Man 2.

[Disney-Fan]

That's funny. Aren't you the UD member who has an entire history of bashing Disney's DTVs all because "they don't top the original"?

Nope, I'm the one that bashes 'em cause they don't even manage to reach high enough to kiss the originals' respective behinds.

[Jules]

I just doubt it'll raise the bars after the fantastic Spider-Man 2.

I thought Spidey 2 was crappy compared to the first. *













*That will get him talking.

[Timon/Pumbaa fan]

That's funny. Aren't you the UD member who has an entire history of bashing Disney's DTVs all because "they don't top the original"?

Nope, I'm the one that bashes 'em cause they don't even manage to reach high enough to kiss the originals' respective behinds.

You're still forgetting the fact that the people who made the DTVs at least do a great job considering they have much lower budgets than the people who made the originals and it's also impressive considering they didn't even create the characters and didn't even have the art from Disney's Animation Research Library to help(we'll ignore the fact that they did with the latter ones). So some were impressive for what they were, even if they weren't even close to cinema's finest.

What's Sam Raimi's excuse? 6 years, technically speaking, isn't very long at all. Especially considering the time gap between Star Wars Episodes I-III, Rocky Balboa, and the upcoming Indiana Jones 4 with their last insallments.

So why can't Raimi create work as good as it was 6 year ago?

[DarthPrime]

Some not so positive reviews coming in from the UD crowd... I'm so hyped for this movie it could be a masterpiece and I'd still find stuff wrong with it, so now I'm worried.

Less than 4 hours until I'll see it...

Without posting spoilers... how is Venom? Thats one part of this whole movie I've been worried about from the beginning. Would it have been better if he was left out, or is the character pretty good?

[2099net]

I woulldn't be too hard on Rami. The Empire review in the UK states repeatedly that Rami didn't want Venom in the film, considering Venom a dull character. The review says:

Venom, meanwhile, is a mixed bag. Raimi has never been a fan of the alien symbiote, created when Spidey ditches the black substance and it latches onto a murderous Eddie Brock, and by his own admission had to be persuaded to include the character.

It seems to me, that the need to sell toys won out over creative integrity. *Sigh* Did nobody learn from Batman and Robin?

Read the full Empire review here:
http://www.empireonline.com/reviews/rev ... ?FID=11021

[Disney-Fan]

You're still forgetting the fact that the people who made the DTVs at least do a great job considering they have much lower budgets than the people who made the originals and it's also impressive considering they didn't even create the characters and didn't even have the art from Disney's Animation Research Library to help(we'll ignore the fact that they did with the latter ones). So some were impressive for what they were, even if they weren't even close to cinema's finest.

I'll be as blunt as possible on this subject, just because I can't find another way to say it. I just don't care. I want to see quality movies when I buy / rent 'em. Seeing Mulan turned into a pink-cliched princess is not what I have in mind for a quality sequel, regardless of said constraints on the production team.

(And to be perfectly fair, not once have I claimed that the people behind these movies don't try their best. What I have claimed is that the people responsible for them, aka the execs, should be ashamed with the final results. They're the only ones to blame).

What's Sam Raimi's excuse?

No idea. I'll tell you after tonight. I think it would be great if we all formed our opinions after viewing the final result.

So why can't Raimi create work as good as it was 6 year ago?

Never said that he can't. But no one on this earth can recreate work from 6 years back and as a result the final product will undoubtedly feel different. Heck, you gave the new Star Wars trilogy as an example. Even with those I felt a clear distinction in 'feel' between each movie of the trilogy. People change, their experiences change, and with that the work they put out to the world will always feel different from their previous attempts. Never said it can't be as good as 6 years ago. That's up to every individual here to judge for himself.

[PatrickvD]

Some not so positive reviews coming in from the UD crowd... I'm so hyped for this movie it could be a masterpiece and I'd still find stuff wrong with it, so now I'm worried.

Less than 4 hours until I'll see it...

Without posting spoilers... how is Venom? Thats one part of this whole movie I've been worried about from the beginning. Would it have been better if he was left out, or is the character pretty good?

he's in the film barely 10 minutes. that's mainly the problem.

[AwallaceUNC]

(Mild) SPOILERS ahead...


Just got back from the midnight showing and have to say I'm rather disappointed. Maybe it was my high hopes, maybe it was the crappy seats, maybe it was the incorrectly framed projection or shoddy surround sound, maybe it was the ridiculously rambunctious and obscene audience. I don't think so, though. I think it was cheap plot turns, the unfavorable ratio of emotional potential to emotional pay-off, the pretty standard action scenes, the spotty acting, the score that sounded too much like <i>Batman</i>, the inexplicable randomness, the frantic camera work, the overabundance of storylines, and the ridiculous ending. If not held to the standard of the last two (and especially of <i>Spider-Man 2</i>), it's a passable action flick and that's about it.

-Aaron

[crunkcourt]

I just got back from seeing it, and frankly I really don't know what I think about the film. I'm disappointed, and agree with what others have said about too many plot lines, etc. Parts of it are just odd and seem out of place. It probably didn't help that we were sitting in a really obnoxious audience though. Perhaps the most frustrating part is that you can see so much potential as you're watching the movie, but it never all fully comes together. I do think it's worth seeing though, just don't go expecting the best movie ever.

And thanks Julian Carter, I've been ridiculously busy over the last month, but things are about to slow down, so hopefully I'll be on more.

[PatrickvD]

SPOILER WARNING

was anyone else kind of freaked out when Tobey Maquire was getting all saturday night fever-ish and started dancing in the streets. Evil suit or not, that was just plain weird. so much for "greatest battle lies within"

[disneyboy20022]

MINOR SPOILER WARNING IN ARTCILE BELOW




Am I the only one on this Forum who totally LOVED That movie... Okay perhaps "LOVED" is a bit of an exageration.... Although one thing that I would have changed about it is the swing jazz club and Peter Parker dancing all over... I mean when in the second film they sang "Raindrops are Falling on my Head" it worked but whatever classic song Peter was dancing to.... I just thought it was too flashy...

Although I think it was a bit darker movie.... Well obviously with Venom in it its gotta be more dark.....

Anyway I thought the movie was FANTASTIC.... True they didnt stay true to the comic at all this go around but hey thats showbussiness... I overall liked the film ... I actually want to see it again before it leaves the local theater


I wonder IF there is a 4th movie... Will we be seeing Carnage and HobGoblin..... Or how about a cross with Daredevil and Spiderman vs The Kingpin and he finds Carnage or something... NVMD forget that....

Also they showed the POTC 3 Trailer.... and a more in depth trailer of Fantastic Four 2: Rise of the Silver Surfer.... and Surf's Up... Although I am sick of penguin movies..... First Dacning Penguins and now its Surfing Penguins???? ENOUGH CGI PENGUINS

March of the Penguins is to blame.........

Anyway Im off to bed soon... As it is 3 am in the morning

[DarthPrime]

Well everyone is right so far, its a disappointment.

I went to see it with a few of my friends, and everyone seemed to pretty much like it in our group. Although I did hear several disappointed people talking outside after the movie. Mainly stuff about Venom and Tobey as Spider-Man.

Anyway I thought it was a good movie, but compared to the first two is a step down. This wasn't anywhere near as bad as X-Men: The Last Stand, but its not the standard we are used to for Spider-Man. Too much going on, and too many villains. Sandman and Harry would have been enough. Venom seemed like an add on as someone said above to sell toys, or to please the people who have wanted Venom since the 1st film.

The Venom in the comics, and Venom on screen are two separate things. Man I'm disappointed in Venom, and the pace of the film. Topher Grace really wasn't great as Eddie Brock either. I had my doubts about the symbiote storyline, and most of them were right. At least Venom looked pretty good, although man was he tiny compared to the comics.

While I was disappointed in Venom, I liked Sandman. They should have just used him. Sandman never was one of my favorite Spider-Man villians, but it played out really well. MORE Sandman, thats what Spider-Man 3 needed. Also watch out for Stan Lee's cameo. Pretty funny, and one of the brighter moments in the film.

What I want to know is what happened? Is the cast tired, or was the director just trying to please everyone and ended up with a complicated script that just didn't work out right? Something had to happened. Some of the romantic scenes reminded me a lot of Attack of the Clones. Yeah they didn't work real good. The ending... I'm tired of these endings. Didn't like it, nuff said.

Is the film as terrible as I make it sound? No its a good film, but flawed. Is it worth seeing in the theaters? I think so. The CGI, and all was pretty top notch. Theres plenty of action, and even a few laughs thrown in. Also if we do see a 4th film, please lets finally have Lizard as a villain. Its been setup great over the past few films. It would work good I think. Also no more symbiotes. Bury Venom/Carnage/Toxin/etc... They don't work on screen like they do in the comics.

[disneyboy20022]

SPOILER WARNING

was anyone else kind of freaked out when Tobey Maquire was getting all saturday night fever-ish and started dancing in the streets. Evil suit or not, that was just plain weird. so much for "greatest battle lies within"

Yeah The Saturday Ngiht Fever-ish dancing freaked me out to.... Although Other than that It was a Great Movie in My opinion and apparently I am the only one who thinks that here at UD Forum

[DarthPrime]

SPOILER WARNING

was anyone else kind of freaked out when Tobey Maquire was getting all saturday night fever-ish and started dancing in the streets. Evil suit or not, that was just plain weird. so much for "greatest battle lies within"

Yeah The Saturday Ngiht Fever-ish dancing freaked me out to.... Although Other than that It was a Great Movie in My opinion and apparently I am the only one who thinks that here at UD Forum

I liked the movie, even though my review made it seem otherwise.

Anyway I thought that scene was hilarious. It went on for a little too long, but it did show how the suit changed him.

[disneyboy20022]

Also if we do see a 4th film, please lets finally have Lizard as a villain. Its been setup great over the past few films. It would work good I think. Also no more symbiotes. Bury Venom/Carnage/Toxin/etc... They don't work on screen like they do in the comics.

Yes I totally forgot in the the excitement... The Lizard would be a nice edition.. and who is Toxin???? Did i Miss something somewhere... As far I knew there was Venom and Carnage.... But who is Toxin??

[DarthPrime]

Toxin is Carnage's son, and hasn't had many appearances.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toxin_(comics)

[slyslayer3000]

The movie opened on May 1st here in the Philippines. While I'm highly anticipating the film, I waited for like three days to finally watch it. The theaters are too crowded, not a pleasant movie experience. So that explains how it grossed P58.6-M on it's opening day.

Anyway, I was rather disappointed. A grave downfall from the second movie, which I consider a much more superior film than this crap. I wonder what Sam Raimi ate. I guess he followed the footsteps of Brett Ratner. Bravo.

[Jules]

slyslayer ... you're back! I haven't seen you in a few millenia! And ... you're from the Philippines!? I always assumed you were an old patriotic American.

BTW, Timmy/Pumby Fan, I'm still waiting for your reply. These days you are just ignoring me. Is my avatar off-putting?