Tangled! (The Artist Formerly Known As Rapunzel)

PatrickvD · Post by **PatrickvD** » Mon Dec 21, 2009 2:15 pm

I love the opening of Beauty and the Beast. It's timeless.

Maybe something similar. A prologue with a voice over explaining the backstory and then the camera sort of zooms in through the woods to the tower where either the witch or Rapunzel opens the film with a song.

Margos · Post by **Margos** » Mon Dec 21, 2009 3:56 pm

singerguy04 wrote:I would prefer a storybook opening just because I think they look nice. If not, then another stain glass would be very cool! Another thought I just had would be if they did it through a tapestry(s)! It'd be new, and it would look sweet.

*gasp* Yes! A tapestry would be perfect! I wonder why they've never done it before.... It would be so beautiful!

Escapay · Post by **Escapay** » Mon Dec 21, 2009 3:58 pm

Opening with sock puppets or finger paints would be quite innovative.

Or, perhaps they can open with a live-action production in Central Park that segues into the film.

albert

Margos · Post by **Margos** » Mon Dec 21, 2009 3:59 pm

Escapay wrote:Opening with sock puppets or finger paints would be quite innovative.

They could never top the sock-puppet version of "The Incredibles!"

tsom · Post by **tsom** » Mon Dec 21, 2009 4:46 pm

Margos wrote:
singerguy04 wrote:I would prefer a storybook opening just because I think they look nice. If not, then another stain glass would be very cool! Another thought I just had would be if they did it through a tapestry(s)! It'd be new, and it would look sweet.
*gasp* Yes! A tapestry would be perfect! I wonder why they've never done it before.... It would be so beautiful!

I agree! A tapestry would be indeed beautiful!!!!

Another thing would be someone telling the story behind the iconic tower, similar to the guy in Aladdin telling the story behind the lamp that changed a streetrat's life.

Whatever they choose, I think it would be cool regardless.

I'd also like to see a wedding at the end.

Escapay · Post by **Escapay** » Mon Dec 21, 2009 5:00 pm

Margos wrote:
Escapay wrote:Opening with sock puppets or finger paints would be quite innovative.
They could never top the sock-puppet version of "The Incredibles!"

True!

All right, we can scratch sock puppets off the list...

Ways To Start Rapunzel:
Storybook
Stained Glass Windows
Painting
Opening Number/Prologue
Tapestry
<strike>Sock Puppets</strike>
Finger Paints
Live-Action Production in Central Park
Storyteller in Iconic Tower

albert

robster16 · Post by **robster16** » Mon Dec 21, 2009 5:08 pm

I have this vision for the teaser trailer I'd like to share with you all:

We open with the new traditional Walt Disney Pictures intro, a star in the sky, the camera drops and the castle appears. Company logo, etc, just like we know and expect it. But then the camera travels forward, through the gate, to the land behind the gate of the castle, the camera travels at a fast but steady speed. Into a big forest, at night, animals scurry away and we hear a haunting song in the distance, the camera travels forward, and the song gets clearer, then an open spot deep in the forest, a tower, with light coming from a window way at the top, the camera slows down but continues to travel towards the window. We see a long braid of hair and a cloacked woman climbing higher and higher and we realize it's her who is singing. This is all still the same shot, camera keeps travelling forward, into the window and we see a girl sitting on a bed with her back turned towards us, the braid of hair is her's. Then, the voice stops singing and says: "Hello, my sweet.... Rapunzel" and she turns around and looks into the camera and looks into the camera and gives us a somewhat scared smile while she says: "Hello mother"...

Title-card, the end!

Now THAT would tickle me...

Margos · Post by **Margos** » Mon Dec 21, 2009 7:28 pm

Hmm.... Very interesting... Of course, that's assuming we won't have much exposition in the beginning, so I don't know if that aspect of it is so great... And the camera pan in from the logo reminds me a bit of "Enchanted." But still, it looks good when I picture it, and it could be lovely! I doubt they'd do it, though.

Disney Duster · Post by **Disney Duster** » Mon Dec 21, 2009 7:45 pm

Well robster, that's rather scary, it starts out as something I would love and that would feel terrific, though...

Thank you Marky and singerguy.

Alright, let me explain something to everyone who's not those two. It does not matter if the details we have heard about the story so far turn out not to be true of the final film. I am saying how I feel about them, I am saying how I feel about those changes regardless whether they happen or not, in case they do happen, because I want to share my feelings on anything that means a lot to me on this discussion forum, where these are the only details we have so far to talk about, and hope others feel the same. Alas, it seems not many people do.

Also, I do hope that if I speak my mind here, it may change the outcome of the film. I don't know, I thought Disney cared about their customers and fans and stuff. Even if most of you are okay with these changes, there would be a way for them to keep it traditional but also as long and great as they need it to be. The prince could still be adventurous and cool like a bandit, the peasant heroine could still be independent and active.

Also, I was not saying "this movie will suck because of these changes". I was saying it was less traditional. And yes, I personally think that if a film aims to be a traditional fairy tale, and it becomes untraditional, then it has not become a bad film necessarily, but a bad traditional fairy tale, or a bad version of that story (since it's hardly that story anymore). And yes, I also feel keeping with the tradition may make it better, because the tale has famously endured for so long, so it's good stuff, stick with it.

Look, I want to see Disney's version of Rapunzel. That's why I don't want to make my own version (though I actually thought of one when I was little). I want to see Disney's magic on Rapunzel, because I still believe in Disney magic and making movies I love. Disney has previously done something to fairy tales that I, and countless others loved. But it's hardly Rapunzel now, and now they aren't doing what they used to do that made us love them.

I don't know how to explain it, but it seems not many people here feel what I feel, that the company has treated fairy tales in a beautiful traditional way and that they should keep up that tradition. So that Disney stays...Disney. I think that's the best I way I can put it. I want Disney to stay Disney, to stay to their roots and traditions. You can be new and innovative and different but still keep some things always the same. You need to keep some things the same to still be...you.

I really am rather surprised more people do not have a problem with Rapunzel being so...not Rapunzel. It's hardly that story anymore. It has enough that it still feels like Rapunzel, but only barely. But I know Disney could make it a little closer to the story, more traditional, and still make it enjoyable, like their past classics have done so triumphantly. And that is my honest feeling.

Sorry I keep talking about this, but I keep wanting to explain because it seems people are not getting me.

akhenaten · Post by **akhenaten** » Mon Dec 21, 2009 11:20 pm

the new disney logo makes it hard to merge with the movie opening.moreover with the disney mickey logo coming up next.

i seriously think they should open with shelley duvall.

Escapay · Post by **Escapay** » Mon Dec 21, 2009 11:22 pm

akhenaten wrote:i seriously think they should open with shelley duvall.

"Hi, I'm Shelley Duvall. Aliens are living in my body. Enjoy Rapunzel!"

albert

akhenaten · Post by **akhenaten** » Mon Dec 21, 2009 11:25 pm

the new disney logo makes it hard to merge with the movie opening.moreover with the disney mickey logo coming up next.

i seriously think they should open with shelley duvall.

Escapay · Post by **Escapay** » Mon Dec 21, 2009 11:28 pm

akhenaten wrote:i seriously think they should open with shelley duvall.

"Hi, I'm Shelley Duvall. Aliens are living in my body. Enjoy Rapunzel!"

albert

...whoa. Déjà vu...

akhenaten · Post by **akhenaten** » Mon Dec 21, 2009 11:34 pm

the new disney logo makes it hard to merge with the movie opening.moreover with the disney mickey logo coming up next.

i seriously think they should open with shelley duvall.

Super Aurora · Post by **Super Aurora** » Tue Dec 22, 2009 4:37 am

Escapay wrote:
Margos wrote: They could never top the sock-puppet version of "The Incredibles!"
True!

All right, we can scratch sock puppets off the list...

Ways To Start Rapunzel:
Storybook
Stained Glass Windows
Painting
Opening Number/Prologue
Tapestry
<strike>Sock Puppets</strike>
Finger Paints
Live-Action Production in Central Park
Storyteller in Iconic Tower

albert

SpringHeelJack · Post by **SpringHeelJack** » Tue Dec 22, 2009 9:13 am

I was going to suggest an opening with Carol Burnett ala the TV movie version of "Once Upon a Mattress" like so:

A young GIRL runs through Disneyland, clearly searching for something. She meets CAROL BURNETT, who is sitting on a rock for some reason.

CAROL BURNETT: Why, hello there!

GIRL: Carol Burnett, I can't find my favorite my favorite princess anywhere!

CAROL BURNETT: Princess Winnifred from "Once Upon a Mattress"?

GIRL: Ew, no. That was a terrible movie-of-the-week. I mean Rapunzel.

CAROL BURNETT: Well, I have nothing better to do. I think I know that story. There's a prince who was a thief or something in that, right?

GIRL: Um-

CAROL BURNETT: Sure there was. Now pipe down and listen.

Cut to ANIMATION.

Neal · Post by **Neal** » Tue Dec 22, 2009 11:24 am

I say we open with a cheap stop-motion scene that a young boy in his attic has made from a Barbie and Ken doll, and as he plays, the figures become more real until we enter full animation!

akhenaten · Post by **akhenaten** » Tue Dec 22, 2009 11:32 am

oops! triple post! sorry.the server was cranky.

KubrickFan · Post by **KubrickFan** » Tue Dec 22, 2009 12:32 pm

Can't they just open with the title and start with the story? Or is that too predictable?

robster16 · Post by **robster16** » Tue Dec 22, 2009 1:37 pm

Well, it's quite easy to deduce certain story aspects from the movie already. We have heard and know that she'll be out her tower by act 2 of the movie, so in the first act she'll have to be stolen from her parents, raised inside the tower, her character needs to be fleshed out, and we'll also get a good set-up of Flynn, the mother gothel character and the stuggle to get her out of the tower.

I'm thinking the intro/opening of the movie will be a storybook opening as a look back at the previous classic fairytale Disney movies, which then segues into an atmospheric montage of Rapunzel's history and the tale of her being locked inside the tower, much like Beauty and the Beast or the way Hunchback opens. It sets the tone, displays characters and leaves the directors free to pick up the movie when Rapunzel has grown older and turned into a free-spirited teenager, so they have plenty of time to set up her character and introduce Flynn and mother Gothel...

I hope it's close to Beauty and the Beast in terms of tone, slightly ominous and forbiding and mysterious in terms of music which is then brightened up by Rapunzel's friendly and sunny disposition...

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