Frozen: Part V

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Warm Regards wrote: Anyways, I like all of the main characters, but I feel that Elsa is the most mysterious. For instance, what did she intend to do after she built her ice palace?

If you have been living in fear and isolation your entire life, and suddenly decide let it all go, you wouldn't to think it out. ;)
I get that part of her, screw the past, enjoy the present, and worry about the future later.
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Very positive review from Kyle Smith from the New York Post, who seems otherwise to be a very strict critic. He is not without criticism of the film, though.

http://nypost.com/2013/11/20/disneys-fr ... our-heart/
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Some choice stuff in that review:
Its first and third acts are better than the jokey middle, but this is the rare example of a Walt Disney Animation Studios effort that reaches as deep as a Pixar film.
In the middle of the film, Anna is tiresomely insipid until she becomes inexplicably skilled at mountaineering. She and the sledder Kristoff (Jonathan Groff), whom she hires to find her sister and save the kingdom, trade empty hipsterisms like “That happened” and verbal tics like”Wait–what?” Disney should consign the of-the-moment chatter to the Disney Channel: The films are meant to last forever.
The conclusion of “Frozen,” though, brings back the emotional force of the opening in clever and surprising ways. And its central figure is intriguingly nuanced. Elsa mostly has good intentions, but she also struggles to tame powers befitting a villain. The closest parallel to her may be the Beast in “Beauty and the Beast.”
Round of applause here:
For all of Disney’s efforts to rethink its heroines, it too often panics at feminist pressure and orders up formulaically “strong, capable, smart” girls. I picture the protagonists of “Brave” or “The Princess and the Frog” at job interviews answering the question about their biggest flaws: “Well, I have to admit that sometimes I’m just so darned confident, determined and adroit that it gets me into trouble!” Let’s move on from all of that, Disney writers: “Interesting” beats all.
A fair and perceptive review, IMO -- both this and the critical one posted earlier today, though this one has the advantage of seeing more of the good in the film and not being overly put off by perceived weaknesses.
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Yeah, I've seen so many reviews that liked the fact that Anna is actually a "flawed" princess. I think she could be really original and interesting too, not as much as Elsa, but I'll like her enough to enjoy her moments in screen and to remember her good heart and clumsy but funny moments.
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I've been looking at the opinions over at the French site, Disney Central Plaza (http://www.disneycentralplaza.com/f1-l- ... -au-cinema) where Edthehyena and Prince Kido both post. While most impressions are positive, seem to be a fair few complaints about the pacing being rushed.
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If you're bored and want to play a really easy Frozen platformer game here you go:

http://games.disney.com/frozen-double-trouble

It's cute and short and features a lot of the characters :)

And it's essentially a carbon copy of this game based on Tangled, fueling the Frozen = Tangled meme rotfl

http://games.disney.com/tangled-double-trouble
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2 new TV spots/promotion videos. (They're not in good quality, but there are a few new snippets from the film)
http://annasfrozenlove.tumblr.com/post/ ... -the-one-i
http://disneyhbic.tumblr.com/post/67535 ... d-some-new

Making snow in Disney’s Frozen
http://www.itsartmag.com/features/makin ... o5-CNJWxNc

Photos from the premiere of “Frozen” at El Capitan Theatre
http://www.insidethemagic.net/2013/11/a ... n-theatre/

But, why wasn't Idina Menzel at the premiere of the film?
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A somewhat critical review. I have no idea if this site counts towards the RT score.

http://moviemezzanine.com/frozen-review/

This particular critique is no longer surprising; it's been echoed by professional reviewers and the general public at pre-screenings:
And then there’s Elsa, who is dealing with things Disney characters normally don’t face, even if her situation feels like an X-Men riff (in keeping with recent trends, her ice tricks play a lot more like superpowers than any kind of magic). A better version of this film would focus more on her; the movie falters whenever Elsa isn’t present, and we only get one-and-a-half Idina Menzel musical performances, which I’m pretty sure is criminal.
That's been my feeling from the beginning of the story -- if you create this incredible character, you need to do more with her.

He does, however, like Let It Go:
The best song in the film is “Let It Go,” in which Elsa expresses her exhilaration at being able to freely use her abilities for the first time in her life. It’s an Idina Menzel power ballad, so of course it’s great.
Gives it a grade of "C," whatever that means, RT-wise (if this site counts towards the RT score).
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I'm not sure about that site but people in the comments are saying the 1 rotten review should technically be fresh since he gave it a 6.8/10 and 6/10 is the cutoff. Is this true?
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D82 wrote:But, why wasn't Idina Menzel at the premiere of the film?
Because of her new show in DC. But still, being gone one day wouldn't have hurt her career :roll:

And yeah, that review is negative.
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Lady Cluck wrote:I'm not sure about that site but people in the comments are saying the 1 rotten review should technically be fresh since he gave it a 6.8/10 and 6/10 is the cutoff. Is this true?
I'm not an expert for RT, but I was surprised by that yesterday too

Some random review from Paste, score 6.7/10 http://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2 ... -shot.html
and for RT it's still fresh http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/a_single_shot/

But, maybe there is some other system
PrincessElsa wrote:A somewhat critical review. I have no idea if this site counts towards the RT score.

http://moviemezzanine.com/frozen-review/

This particular critique is no longer surprising; it's been echoed by professional reviewers and the general public at pre-screenings:
Gives it a grade of "C," whatever that means, RT-wise (if this site counts towards the RT score).
That site isn't on RT Publications List, so don't worry.
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Lady Cluck wrote:I'm not sure about that site but people in the comments are saying the 1 rotten review should technically be fresh since he gave it a 6.8/10 and 6/10 is the cutoff. Is this true?
It's up to the individual reviewer whether to designate their reviews as fresh or rotten. 6/10 and 2.5/4 reviews are frequently given as negative. The tone of that review was clearly negative, seems right that it was given as rotten. People use their scales differently and it is best not to focus too much on the score.

I would generally consider 6 to be negative. Let's say a film is rated positively or negatively based on whether you would recommend it, would one really recommend a movie that is rated only a 6/10.

Anyway, review from another top critic:

http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/mo ... z2lKXutVvU

Pretty much just a straight rave with nothing new to add.
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http://thatmovieswelovesite.wordpress.c ... ew-frozen/
http://www.filmjournal.com/filmjournal/ ... a06212c809
http://nerdreactor.com/2013/11/21/disne ... en-review/
http://wegotthiscovered.com/movies/frozen-review/
http://xxivmagazine.com.au/film-review-frozen/
http://www.ticketsarasota.com/2013/11/2 ... ew-frozen/
http://popcrush.com/frozen-review/
http://www.thecinemonster.com/2013/11/f ... eview.html
http://www.skwigly.co.uk/frozen-review/
http://moviemezzanine.com/frozen-review/
http://flickminute.com/frozen/
You either really love Frozen, thought it was meh, or just hate to the bone. Quite a few of the negative reviews give me the feeling that the film was flat, lacked that edge. I hope Frozen doesn't lack the edge that the Despicable Me series lacked too, they're terrible in my opinion.
I find this review most interesting as it says the plot twist is terrible and poorly introduced, I think that's funny becuase that is just how everyone reacted when the Junior Novel was leaked.
http://www.watchorpass.com/2013/11/review-frozen.html
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Well, my local theatre is actually starting showings of Frozen at 7pm on Tuesday night followed by a 9:35 showing, but no midnight. I'm a little disappointed though as midnight showings are usually pretty scarce with small screaming children and that was my only chance to see it that way. lol, oh well, I'll give the 9:35 show a shot.
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A glowing review from the LA Times

http://touch.latimes.com/#section/-1/ar ... -78282570/

I'm honestly hating the critics are reacting as if this is like the second coming of Christ (It is the only thing I can think of). What about the other recent Disney movies? :| And again, FOR NOW, even though this is as good as most of the 90s movies, this isn't as good as TLK & B&TB
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TheBlibaBlob wrote: You either really love Frozen, thought it was meh, or just hate to the bone. Quite a few of the negative reviews give me the feeling that the film was flat, lacked that edge. I hope Frozen doesn't lack the edge that the Despicable Me series lacked too, they're terrible in my opinion.
I find this review most interesting as it says the plot twist is terrible and poorly introduced, I think that's funny becuase that is just how everyone reacted when the Junior Novel was leaked.
http://www.watchorpass.com/2013/11/review-frozen.html
Don't exaggerate. Reception is still largely positive. None of the reviews you linked to 'hated it to the bone'.

And I love how you focus on the only criticism in an otherwise hugely positive review.

Not that I don't have some worries of my own, mostly to do with pacing, but what you are doing is accentuating the negative. Just watch the movie and come to your own opinion then.
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re:the reviews: I think most of us expected that the lesser part of the film would be the larger focus on Anna when Elsa is clearly the more interesting character. I have to admit that's the second biggest reason I have no excitement for this film, even now that the trailers are out on TV. I don't expect it to be anywhere in WIR or TP&TF's range for me, but it'll probably top Tangled. It could be in its favor that I have no good expectations, because it's more likely I'll enjoy it if/when it surprises. :P
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Full excerpts of some of the tracks of the score are now posted on the Disney Award site.

http://waltdisneystudiosawards.com/#/frozen/music

Tumblr is working on the rips. :P
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qindarka wrote:
TheBlibaBlob wrote: You either really love Frozen, thought it was meh, or just hate to the bone. Quite a few of the negative reviews give me the feeling that the film was flat, lacked that edge. I hope Frozen doesn't lack the edge that the Despicable Me series lacked too, they're terrible in my opinion.
I find this review most interesting as it says the plot twist is terrible and poorly introduced, I think that's funny becuase that is just how everyone reacted when the Junior Novel was leaked.
http://www.watchorpass.com/2013/11/review-frozen.html
Don't exaggerate. Reception is still largely positive. None of the reviews you linked to 'hated it to the bone'.

And I love how you focus on the only criticism in an otherwise hugely positive review.

Not that I don't have some worries of my own, mostly to do with pacing, but what you are doing is accentuating the negative. Just watch the movie and come to your own opinion then.
Yeah, so far so good on the reviews thus far, nice mixture of very positive and critical reviews. I can't believe the movie will come out soon. :D :D :D :D

EDIT: BTW, I have just went on the Disney Award Consideration website and I've just finished hearing the epilogue and all I can say is WOW, just WOW! :shock: This music by Beck and Robert Lopez is beautiful. Besides, there IS a choir, just a small one doing the "aahhs" at the end of the reprise part of DYWTBAS. I hope the visuals live up to that ending.
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^I absolutely love Elsa and Anna (the score, its also on the award site). Watching that in the theater is simply magical (as much as i hate that word). It feels like a very classic scene and the music adds to it so much.

I'm surprised disney isn't pushing DYWTBAS on their award site.
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