Sleeping Beauty Confirmed for DVD AND BLU-RAY in 2008 !!!

[2099net]

Marky, yes the U.S. DVD has a featurette on the restoration, which I believe was taken from the laserdisc before, so let me check it... Okay. Well, first they fixed a flickering problem. Then, they rotoscoped the characters and I guess digitally removed them from the backgrounds, and dust-busted the backgrounds (like, removed dirt and dust), and put the characters back in. They actually did paint the characters, but from what I watched, it looked like they only took the same color that one part was, and maybe used it to color over dirt they couldn't get rid of. At the end, it said the restoration was able to bring out original colors and textures better than 1959 film technology permitted for the premiere release.

But they didn't "fix" the flickering colours. It's still there, especially on the reds, and especially on the PAL releases (making me think that they did extra post processing on the later NTSC release). They maybe lessened the distraction of the flickering, but it certainly wasn't fixed.

So considering the colours still flickered on the 2003 release (from a earlier restoration) I don't see how anybody could claim the 2003 colours are "correct", they're obviously wrong about 25% of the time just with the different shades of the same colour causing the flickering! It's clear that at the time they simply didn't have the technology to fix the colours.

And to show I'm not just jumping on the bandwagon, check out this post of mine
http://www.ultimatedisney.com/forum/vie ... beauty+pal from 2003 which clearly mentions the colour pulsating (and its picked up by a couple of other posters too).

[Marky_198]

By the way, was your first VHS, the one you like, the same one as the first pictures in this thread?:
Sleeping Beauty 3 release comparison
Because it looks a lot like the new restoration. I loved the way my first Cinderella VHS looked, and I hope if they restore it again, it looks like that one! The one I fell in love with..

Yes, it is
And I completely agree about Cincerella too.
It's not only the colors, but also it looks like the characters are really there. In the 2 restorations it looks like the characters are separated from the backgrounds. The 2008 screenshots look so much better.

[PrincePhillipFan]

Thanks for posting the link to the soundtrack, Arielsprince! I'm happy to see that it's being released once again. At first I found it odd they hadn't made an announcement about its re-release since they did the same with Cinderella and Little Mermaid's platinums.

I also noticed on Amazon's picture cover it says "Digitally remastered" at the bottom. I wonder if maybe instead of just a reissue, it'll include the new 7.1 surround sound remastered music on this CD from the DVD. I always hoped too they would have included the full soundtrack, since I know many music cues from the film were left out on the old release, such as Phillip's capture and some of the music they used in the cottage scene. Although it's usually doubtful that Disney releases a soundtrack with every piece of music heard in the film on it.

[Ariel'sprince]

Thanks for posting the link to the soundtrack, Arielsprince! I'm happy to see that it's being released once again. At first I found it odd they hadn't made an announcement about its re-release since they did the same with Cinderella and Little Mermaid's platinums.

You"re wellcome .
About an announcement-I didn't knew there was going to be a re-released Little Mermaid soundtrack until I saw it on the Little Mermaid PE sweepstakes,but they"re very lazy lately (They didn't even announced a Sleeping Beauty DS game yet).

[jeremy88]

I just pre-ordered this from the Disney store and got the lithos yay. I was going to get the blu-ray...but I'm like...I don't even know if I'm going to get a PS3 by October and I already have two blu-rays which I haven't been able to watch yet. So I'm just going to hold off on Blu-Rays until I get my PS3 (which will be in November and most likely from a combination of work/birthday money...and just in time for Tomb Raider Underworld yay)

I'm going to give my best friend my copy of the 2003 Sleeping Beauty Special Edition since he doesn't have that one yet. He's rebuying all of the Disney movies on DVD so he can toss his old VHS. Were going to make a nice collage of all of the VHS Disney movie covers.

[Flower's Friend]

I just wanted to let everyone know that if you pre-order Sleeping Beauty on either dvd or blu-ray from fye.com ( http://www.fye.com/index.htm ), that you can get a Sleeping Beauty Collector's Film Cell

This is what it says on their website.
"Free Gift: While supplies last! Order now and you will receive a free Sleeping Beauty Collector's Film Cell! Free film cell to ship separately within 5-6 weeks. Limit 2 per household. Available only on new product (not used). While supplies last!"

Now here is the link to Sleeping Beauty on Blu-ray at fye.com >
http://www.fye.com/Sleeping-Beauty--Blu ... ewprod.htm

Also here is the link to Sleeping Beauty on Dvd at fye.com >
http://www.fye.com/Sleeping-Beauty--50t ... ewprod.htm

[Disney Duster]

I don't quite see why people want it looking less cartoony. That would make it more realistic... and I thought we were talking about a fairytale made by a company made famous for its strength in animation.

UM...okay, well, Walt Disney from the very beginning wanted his animated films (which he occasionally called cartoon pictures, probably just for ease and the public), to be seperate from, well, cartoons, and yes, not to be cartoony. Snow White was the first time a real (and successful) attempt at realistic humans was made. Live-action and models were used. He said he wanted everything to be as real as possible, as much like live-action (i.e. as good and convincing as live-action) as possible. Guess what? For Sleeping Beauty, they used lots of live-action reference because Walt wanted the movement to be as close to real human movement as possible. I can't speak for everyone, but I want realistic convincing life-like things, with all the creative possibilities of animation. I can't believe you don't see a difference between thinking of something as a cartoon and thinking of it as an animated masterpiece. It's like all art, you can draw something as close to real life as possible, but to trained eyes and studiers of art, they can tell when a painting or drawing is made by a certain person. Art is the world seen in a different way. Art is the world seen by the person who makes that art. Cartoons aren't usually thought of as art, they're usually thought of as just making everything basic with bright colors to entertain kiddies. Yes, what is a cartoon and what is art is becoming blurred these days, but in the sense of art having to do with good skills and draftsmanship and quality, Disney animated films are more artful than most cartoons.

In fantasy, in fairy tales, everything can't be totally fake, otherwise it won't work. Things that don't happen in real life do in fantasy and fairy tales, but the reactions, the emotions, the thoughts, and basically what human characters do, are all real.

AS for the colors, Walt Disney wanted the colors of Snow White not to be the bright things typical of cartoons, but more earthy, realistic ones. For Sleeping Beauty, the colors should not look like cartoons, but evoke medeival, gothic art. But they should also be believable, realistic to some degree.

Disney is about making the impossible possible. Seem possible. Believable. Like it could happen to our real lives.

[Scamander]

I have to revise my last comment. The Hannah Montana-dolly-clip is even tolerable in contrast to the german "music"-video!

[Mooky]

It's not that bad. Was that "No Angels"?

[Marky_198]

[quote="Disney Duster I can't speak for everyone, but I want realistic convincing life-like things, with all the creative possibilities of animation. I can't believe you don't see a difference between thinking of something as a cartoon and thinking of it as an animated masterpiece. .[/quote]

Exactly! You've hit the nail on the head.
I wish English was my native language, I couldn't have said it better.

[Scamander]

It's not that bad. Was that "No Angels"?

Yeah, not the whole band but Sandy Mölling who is part of them.

[yukitora]

Disney Duster, thanks for your response. I don't disagree with you, I agree quite a bit, and actually knew all that jazz before posting, but please let me expand a little bit.

I know Walt wanted everything to be as life-like as possible, but this usually only comes through to the main characters. In White Snow and Sleeping Beauty, there are such distinct differences from what the protagonist look like, and the less important characters. For example, the dwarves (although they ARE very important characters... they're undoubtedly cartoony), and the non-speaking background characters in Sleeping Beauty, which represent those medieval caricatures, whom are far from realistic.

I don't know... when I hear the word "cartoon", I don't think the opposite to "animated masterpiece". I don't think "sunday cartoon" either. I've heard one of the 9 old men use the world "cartoon" in one of their docos (i think at least, lol). Over the years, I generally consider the word cartoon and animation the same thing, something that separates them from "live-action". But that might just be me.

[Disney Duster]

Oh I see. Well, basically I was explaining what people mean when they say they don't want it to be cartoony, because of the more basic, less-realistic, overly bright, kiddy sense of the word cartoon.

Some people love Disney cartoons but say, well they're still just cartoons. If the films are to be taken seriously, so seriously that they can win Best Picture and stuff some day, I don't think calling them cartoons is helping. It really sucks that animated movies have their own category now, but at least it's still possible for films to get Best Picture. Ratatouille campaigned for it.

And, when talking about The Little Mermaid, some guy said Disney should stop "throwing their cartoons on our stages". Cartoon is seen very negatively these days, it's often used to belittle animated films.

Like you said, even the animators called them cartoons, but they're using it in an entirely different sense, just to refer to the medium.

[2099net]

BBFC latest:

00:04:28:03 (DRAGON ENCOUNTER) (BONUS FOOTAGE)
00:04:52:12 IO LO SO (ONCE UPON A DREAM) (MUSIC VIDEO)
00:02:42:06 THE PETER TCHAIKOVSKY STORY (WALT DISNEY EXPLAINS STEREO SOUND AND FILM FORMATS)
00:47:21:01 THE PETER TCHAIKOVSKY STORY (FEATURE)
00:27:41:00 GRAND CANYON (FEATURE)

So that explains the two Tchaikovsky mentions. One is the introduction. Who knows, good old Walt may explain full frame and matting for everyone here... from beyond the grave.

[yukitora]

^thanks for the update!

So we're getting two music videos?

I'm so glad their putting in two full features onto this release. It's such an expansive, the best since Beauty and the Beast?

[Disneykid]

Thanks for the info, Netty. Here's an updated version of the bonus features list I posted earlier in this thread. This list is based on all the info we've gotten so far from the U.S. and U.K. press releases along with the BBFC site.

DISC ONE

* Audio Commentary with John Lasseter, Andreas Deja and Leonard Maltin

* Cine Explore (BD only)
- Visual Commentary
- “Eyvind Earle: The Man and His Art” (7:12)
- "Sequence 8" (5:28 )
- "The Sound of Beauty: Restoring a Classic"

* "Grand Canyon" (28:53)

* “The Peter Tchaikovsky Story”
- Walt Disney Explains Stereo Sound and Film Formats (2:42)
- “The Peter Tchaikovsky Story” (47:21)

* Princess Fun Facts
* “Once Upon A Dream” Music Video Performed by Emily Osment (4:52)
* Dragon Encounter Game (4:28, BD only)

* Disney Song Selection
- "Once Upon A Dream" (Main Title)
- "Hail to the Princess Aurora"
- "I Wonder"
- "Once Upon A Dream"
- "Sleeping Beauty"

DISC TWO:

* Backstage Disney
- “Picture Perfect: The Making of Sleeping Beauty” (43:30)
- “Four Artists Paint One Tree” (16:08 )

Storyboard Sequences
- Introduction (0:44)
- The Fairies Put the Castle to Sleep: Split-Screen Comparison (1:00)
- The Capture of the Prince: Split-Screen Comparison (10:27)

Live-Action Reference
- Briar Rose Dances (0:45)
- Prince Philip Fights the Dragon (1:04)
- The Queen and a Good Mary (0:15)

Publicity
- Original Teaser Trailer (1:40)
- Original Theatrical Trailer (3:09)
- Re-Release Trailer (1:23)

Art Galleries
--- Visual Development
--- Character Design
--- Sleeping Beauty Storybook
--- Backgrounds & Layouts
--- Storyboard Art
--- Production Pictures
--- Live Action Reference
--- Publicity

* Deleted Scenes
- Deleted Songs Introduction? (3:31)
- “Holiday” Alternate Opening (3:17)
- "I Happen to Have a Picture" Version 1
- "I Happen to Have A Picture" Version 2 - 1952 (2:45)
- "Riddle-Diddle" (2:36)
- "Go To Sleep" (2:38 )

* Fun and Games
Sleeping Beauty Castle Walk-Thru Attraction
- The History of the Sleeping Beauty Castle Walk-Thru Attraction (9:50)

Sleeping Beauty Castle Walk-Thru
- Standard (7:38 )
- Lights On Mode (7:38 )
- Audio Commentary

- Control Panel (DVD Only)
--- Book 1 (0:30)
--- Book 2 (0:30)
--- Book 3 (0:30)
--- Book 4 (0:30)
--- Book 5 (0:30)
--- Book 6 (0:30)
--- Book 7 (0:30)
--- Window 2 (0:30)
--- Window 3 (0:30)
--- Window 4 (0:30)
--- Window 5 (0:30)
--- Window 6 (0:30)
--- Window 7A (0:30)
--- Window 7B (0:30)
--- Window 10 (0:30)
--- Window 11 (0:30)
--- Window 12 (0:30)

- Behind the Scenes with Tony Baxter
--- Intro (0:38 )
--- Pod 1 (1:55)
--- Pod 2 (1:35)
--- Pod 3 (1:25)
--- Pod 4 (1:58 )
--- Pod 5 (1:24)
--- Pod 6 (1:22)
--- Pod 7 (1:30)
--- Pod 8 (1:13)
--- Pod 9 (1:14)
--- Pod 10 (1:17)
--- Pod 11 (2:19)
--- Outro (0:19)

- Briar Rose’s Enchanted Dance Game (DVD only)
- Maleficent’s Challenge Game (BD only)
- Sleeping Beauty Fun With Language Game

* BD Live
- Virtual Castle Menu Interface
- Movie Mail
- Movie Chat
- Movie Challenge

I think that's about as complete as it's going to get. Version 1 of I Happen to Have A Picture" and "The Sound of Beauty" featurette need running times, but I don't think there'll be much else coming besides those. I had to guess on some things, though:

The Eyvind Earle and Sequence 8 featurettes were classified by the BBFC and excerpts of both are even available to view on IMDb. Neither featurette is listed in anyone's press release, though, so I figured they must be among the Cine Explore featurettes on the BD like the restoration featurette. Since there's got to be more footage via Cine Explore than that, expect more featurettes that may or may not be classified.

The Sleeping Beauty Walk-Thru was tricky. The UK press release mentions a Control Panel mode, a No Control Panel Mode, and a Lights-On Mode. The BBFC classified two Walk-Thrus running at 7:38 a piece, so I figured those must be the standard (no Control Panel) and Lights-On modes. Then the BBFC classified two massive lists of clips: one made up of "pods" and one made up of storybook and window loops. I had trouble placing these, so the only conclusion I can come to is that the loops are part of the Control Panel mode, allowing you to view the attraction at your own pace. That leaves the pod clips. The "History of..." featurette already has its own running time, and based on detail of the IMDb clip, there's no way that video was from the History featurette. So even though there's no hint of it in any of the press releases, the pods must be their own scene-specific making of's.

Since the BBFC classified a different video than Emily Osment's (which never got classified), I'm assuming both regions will contain different music videos, something not uncommon for Disney. More than likely the arrangements will be the same, but with different performers, so I put the BBFC running time with Emily's.

[2099net]

Sorry DK, the last BBFC listing specifically said "Disc 1", so you'll have to copy paste them in your post. I've never been sure why Grand Canyon should be part of Publicity.

http://www.bbfc.co.uk/website/Classifie ... enDocument

[Ariel'sprince]

There are any picture of the menus?.

[Disneykid]

Sorry DK, the last BBFC listing specifically said "Disc 1"

No problem; it's fixed. It seems a bit odd for Disney to have Grand Canyon and Peter Tchaikovsky on disc one. Usually the only worthwhile content their first discs have are commentaries (and occasionally deleted scenes). I wonder if that means we'll have the option of watching Grand Canyon before the film the way audiences did in 1959.

[2099net]

I think its probably required for the run-times. Sleeping Beauty is only a 70min-ish film after all. The supplements do actually add up to a lot, so putting some on a disc with (theoretically) half its capacity does seem to make sense.

I'm just wondering if the trailers will be on disc 1 if Grand Canyon is (but like I state, I don't view GC as "publicity")