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JeanGreyForever wrote:Just to clarify, the new restoration isn't just for the 4K disc? It's used on the new Blu-Ray disc as well?

If so, I might pick this up although the Target edition leaves much to be desired. The color of Ariel's tail is inconsistent on the cover, being all blue, yet they keep the very top part green. Scuttle is, surprisingly, on the spine of the inside cover and they've used the cheapest clipart image they could have found. The gallery book might excite me more but a lot of those pics are also included in the Illustrated Classics line of books they have now. And of course, no disc art on the Blu-Ray disc.
Yes, the blu ray is supposed to have a downscaled version of the 4K with SDR instead of HDR.

I somewhat agree about the Target edition. I don't like the cliparts they used. I especially don't like that Scuttle is on the spine. I thought about getting the Target edition but now I'll perhaps just get the standard one.
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farerb wrote:
Yes, the blu ray is supposed to have a downscaled version of the 4K with SDR instead of HDR.

I somewhat agree about the Target edition. I don't like the cliparts they used. I especially don't like that Scuttle is on the spine. I thought about getting the Target edition but now I'll perhaps just get the standard one.
Thanks for confirming!

I think I'm probably going to go with the standard edition as well. I've heard the Target exclusive is already sold out anyway in most Target stores.
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A lot of the comments in the Blu-Ray.com forum don't seem very positive about the new restoration:

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.ph ... 12&page=22
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JeanGreyForever wrote:Just to clarify, the new restoration isn't just for the 4K disc? It's used on the new Blu-Ray disc as well?

If so, I might pick this up although the Target edition leaves much to be desired. The color of Ariel's tail is inconsistent on the cover, being all blue, yet they keep the very top part green. Scuttle is, surprisingly, on the spine of the inside cover and they've used the cheapest clip art image they could have found. The gallery book might excite me more but a lot of those pics are also included in the Illustrated Classics line of books they have now. And of course, no disc art on the Blu-Ray disc.
yeah I picked up the Target digibook today and I hate how they used Scuttle on the spine(like WTF?) Is it true that the gallery pics are the same ones already features on the new Illustrated classics book? b/c I plan to get that book anyway and the only reason I picked this up is for the art gallery, basically. Having it in 4k isn't a necessity for me as I have no idea when Ill ever get a 4k tv and Im not as nitpicky with colors unless its blatantly different like the overly brightened colors on the different B&TB blu-ray releases. And the storybook part of the digibook is probably the same one as the last digibook which I already have! Fortunately I haven't opened the disc yet so I could always return it.
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Hardbackyoyo wrote:A lot of the comments in the Blu-Ray.com forum don't seem very positive about the new restoration:

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.ph ... 12&page=22
A lot of them are cinephiles and obsessed with picture quality. From what I can tell, the 4K edition is more air-brushed so all the grain is removed, whereas the Diamond Edition Blu-Ray still had some grain, albeit minimal. The colors are also changed in this new version. A major complaint I've heard is that Ariel's tail was always supposed to be blue-green, never completely green. The Diamond Edition Blu-Ray had Ariel's tail blue-green, which I remember was much praised back then for being more accurate to the original colors, whereas the new 4K Edition has her tail just green. Such as in page 28 of that same thread.
https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.ph ... 12&page=28
unprincess wrote: yeah I picked up the Target digibook today and I hate how they used Scuttle on the spine(like WTF?) Is it true that the gallery pics are the same ones already features on the new Illustrated classics book? b/c I plan to get that book anyway and the only reason I picked this up is for the art gallery, basically. Having it in 4k isn't a necessity for me as I have no idea when Ill ever get a 4k tv and Im not as nitpicky with colors unless its blatantly different like the overly brightened colors on the different B&TB blu-ray releases. And the storybook part of the digibook is probably the same one as the last digibook which I already have! Fortunately I haven't opened the disc yet so I could always return it.
Most of the gallery pics are in the Animated Classic book as well, but the gallery book is much smaller and the pictures are mostly thumbnail sized there as well, so keep that in mind. The color differences between the Diamond and Signature Editions are minimal, but the colors are brighter in the new one. Some people are complaining that Disney does this with all their animated features on Blu-Ray so that they look more recently made and because younger kids are so used to bright, saturated colors in CGI animated movies (something which people actually praised the Diamond Edition for because it wasn't brightened up like Beauty and the Beast for example). From what I've seen of the storybook, it's the same images as the last digibook and the regular storybook release although I don't know if they used the exact same selection of pics.
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thanks JeanGreyForever! I did later check out a YouTube unboxing video for it and I'm very mixed on it. I do like the content in the gallery book but dont like the ugly portrait clip art they used all over the different flaps. I do like they used the original teaser poster art on the front cover of the book.
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With the comparison shots--yeah, the Diamond is better. Not that the Signature is bad. I hadn't even noticed Scuttle was on the side of the case. :lol: Scuttle's finally getting his time to shine after all these years!
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Disney's Divinity wrote:With the comparison shots--yeah, the Diamond is better. Not that the Signature is bad. I hadn't even noticed Scuttle was on the side of the case. :lol: Scuttle's finally getting his time to shine after all these years!
The Signature isn't bad at all. Yes there's a small use of DNR but people make it seem like it's Cinderella all over again.

I guess Scuttle got to be on the spine since everyone else got a huge image.
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The one thing that gives me hope is that Disney bothered to make a new restoration for this film, even though they probably didn't need to, so there's a chance they'll start again with Cinderella.

Only wish BATB had gotten the same treatment, but maybe the 4K edition will have different colors since Disney seems to love creating different versions of this film for every medium (DVD colors are different from Blu-Ray colors which are different from Blu-Ray 3D colors, not to mention the Laserdisc and VHS colors).

I'm curious about Fantasia too because I've heard mixed reviews on its restoration.
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I wish Ariel had her correct tail color, and the rest of the colors all correct, but I do not even know exactly how the colors should be. Do they look a lot like the original colors, big Little Mermaid fans?
JeanGreyForever wrote:The one thing that gives me hope is that Disney bothered to make a new restoration for this film, even though they probably didn't need to, so there's a chance they'll start again with Cinderella.
YES!!!! I think you are right!!!!
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Disney Duster wrote:I wish Ariel had her correct tail color, and the rest of the colors all correct, but I do not even know exactly how the colors should be. Do they look a lot like the original colors, big Little Mermaid fans?
JeanGreyForever wrote:The one thing that gives me hope is that Disney bothered to make a new restoration for this film, even though they probably didn't need to, so there's a chance they'll start again with Cinderella.
YES!!!! I think you are right!!!!
From the screenshots, her tail looks emerald green to me which isn't very correct. A lot of people have said that this restoration looks more like the Platinum DVD which got lots of criticism for having incorrect colors. I think I'll be better off with the Diamond Edition especially since the new extras aren't worth it either (shocker).

I also think that we'll get Sleeping Beauty this year for the Signature Collection. Not only is it the 60th Anniversary but the Disney Store has a lot of Sleeping Beauty merchandise which is usually a sign of an upcoming release.
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Paige O’Hara (The Voice of Belle) Paints Ariel from The Little Mermaid!
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Jodi Benson and Paige O’Hara Try to Guess Disney Princesses in 10 Seconds
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farerb wrote: The Signature isn't bad at all. Yes there's a small use of DNR but people make it seem like it's Cinderella all over again.

I guess Scuttle got to be on the spine since everyone else got a huge image.
Yeah, seems like a bit of an overreaction to me. Cinderella's restoration was off to an extreme; this isn't like that at all.

Eric and Triton were left out, unfortunately.
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I placed an order for the regular slipcase on Amazon. I couldn't resist, and I bought both the Target exclusive and the Best Buy steelbook, cause I think they're gorgeous, and I managed to find them at super reasonable prices on eBay. :)
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farerb wrote: The Signature isn't bad at all. Yes there's a small use of DNR but people make it seem like it's Cinderella all over again.
Forget Cinderella, in the forums this film is actually being directly compared to The Sword in the Stone.
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People claimed that Cinderella is the next Signature title from the DMC website. Can anyone confirm this?
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farerb wrote:People claimed that Cinderella is the next Signature title from the DMC website. Can anyone confirm this?
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Oh, awesome. Let's see what cover they will produce. And hopefully, they will surprise us with a new restoration
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Yeah, I hope it gets a new, better restoration. Either way, I need to finally get it on Blu-ray. The Platinum is the only version I have. :oops: Hopefully Aladdin and Fantasia will come next year then, I suppose?
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