Tangled (formerly Rapunzel) Discussion - Part II
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I picked a slightly new elements at the bottom of that (very long) page !
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I personnaly focus on
-Raiponce IS an artistic girl, dreaming, painting, maybe playing guitar ? (read somewhere else)
-Her hair IS magical, an that's why she 's ok to stay hidden in the tower, because "a power like that has to be kept secret", as said in the teaser, ... That's interesting... Quasi was staying in Notre Dame because he was different, too much ugly, Rap stays in the tower because she's different, kinda too much beautiful and magical...
-Gothel IS using that magic power of the hair to keep young. The brown curled haired red dressed Gothel we saw must be the Gothel kept young. I bet you that, when Rap runs away, madness will turn Gothel back to and old ugly witch ! Would be so COOL !
-No one has ever talked of or showed us the king and queen, i mean, the real parents of Rapunzel. I can't wait to know more about'em, their kingdom, the way they cry on their daughter disparition or try to find her back, about the exact conditions and reasons of Gothel abducting the baby, etc... there's obviously a lot of revelations, mysteries, secrets around Rap's origins
-Maximus the cop horse makes me think of the sheriff horse in Home on the Range... Meeting Rap will turn him into a friendy partner of the duet
That's all Folks ! Below the complete original source
Rapunzel
This princess may have lived her entire life locked inside a hidden tower, but Rapunzel is no damsel in distress. The girl with the 70 feet of golden hair is an energetic, inquisitive teenager who fills her days with art, books, and imagination. Rapunzel is full of curiosity about the outside world, and she can't help but feel that her true destiny lies outside of the lonely tower walls. Rapunzel has always obeyed Mother Gothel by staying hidden away and keeping her magical hair a secret... but with her 18th birthday just a day away, she is fed up with her sheltered life and ready for adventure. When a charming thief seeks refuge in her tower, Rapunzel defies Gothel and seizes the opportunity to answer the call of the kingdom. With the unwilling Flynn Ryder along for the journey, Rapunzel leaves the tower for the first time, and begins a hilarious, hairraising journey that will untangle many secrets along the way.
Mother Gothel
She may be controlling, manipulative and over-protective, but Mother Gothel is the only mother Rapunzel has ever known. By stealing Rapunzel as an infant and raising her in the tower, Gothel ensured that she alone would have access to Rapunzel's magical hair, which she uses as her personal fountain of youth. Gothel loves Rapunzel more as a possession than as a daughter, and uses every weapon in her arsenal � including a constant flow of subtle jabs, backhanded compliments and over-the-top guilt trips � to keep Rapunzel hidden away. When Rapunzel finally defies her wishes and ventures out into the world, the delightfully deranged Gothel will to stop at nothing to get her little girl back into the tower.
�Disney
Release date: 17th December 2010 A wide-ranging consumer products programme launches in autumn/winter 2010 DVD release: Easter 2011
Flynn Ryder/Pascal
The ultra-confident Flynn Rider is his own biggest fan, and he has long relied on his wit, charm and good looks to get out of even the stickiest situation � and Flynn's life just happens to be full of sticky situations. Flynn is a thief looking for the one last, big score that will allow him to finally live the life he's always dreamed of. He's never been closer to having it all when he meets Rapunzel, an odd girl with ridiculously long hair. Rapunzel seems to be the only girl in the world immune to Flynn's moves, and for the first time ever he seems to have met his match. An unlikely alliance with this girl from the tower sends Flynn on the adventure of a lifetime, and helps him realize that sometimes you don't know what you want... until it hits you over the head... literally.
Rapunzel's one true friend is her silent, color-changing sidekick, Pascal. Pascal may be just a small chameleon, but he plays a big role in Rapunzel's life. Confidante, coach and cheerleader, Pascal is a driving force behind Rapunzel's decision to leave her lonely tower. This supportive and encouraging companion's true colors just might hold a key to unlocking a royal mystery.
Maximus
The Captain of the Guard's horse, Maximus, has made it his personal mission to capture the wanted criminal, Flynn Rider. Fearless in his pursuit, the horse defies danger to follow Flynn where other guards refuse to go � it seems nothing will stop this "tough-guy cop" from getting his man. Once Maximus meets Rapunzel his heart softens, and he begins to see the world differently. What started as a relentless pursuit may just be the beginning of a beautiful friendship.
Re: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/s ... zLyOaeRCUJ: issuu.com/intentmedia/docs/toynews_issue104+flynn+rider+maximus+gothel&cd= 4&hl=fr&ct=clnk&gl=fr
I personnaly focus on
-Raiponce IS an artistic girl, dreaming, painting, maybe playing guitar ? (read somewhere else)
-Her hair IS magical, an that's why she 's ok to stay hidden in the tower, because "a power like that has to be kept secret", as said in the teaser, ... That's interesting... Quasi was staying in Notre Dame because he was different, too much ugly, Rap stays in the tower because she's different, kinda too much beautiful and magical...
-Gothel IS using that magic power of the hair to keep young. The brown curled haired red dressed Gothel we saw must be the Gothel kept young. I bet you that, when Rap runs away, madness will turn Gothel back to and old ugly witch ! Would be so COOL !
-No one has ever talked of or showed us the king and queen, i mean, the real parents of Rapunzel. I can't wait to know more about'em, their kingdom, the way they cry on their daughter disparition or try to find her back, about the exact conditions and reasons of Gothel abducting the baby, etc... there's obviously a lot of revelations, mysteries, secrets around Rap's origins
-Maximus the cop horse makes me think of the sheriff horse in Home on the Range... Meeting Rap will turn him into a friendy partner of the duet
That's all Folks ! Below the complete original source
Rapunzel
This princess may have lived her entire life locked inside a hidden tower, but Rapunzel is no damsel in distress. The girl with the 70 feet of golden hair is an energetic, inquisitive teenager who fills her days with art, books, and imagination. Rapunzel is full of curiosity about the outside world, and she can't help but feel that her true destiny lies outside of the lonely tower walls. Rapunzel has always obeyed Mother Gothel by staying hidden away and keeping her magical hair a secret... but with her 18th birthday just a day away, she is fed up with her sheltered life and ready for adventure. When a charming thief seeks refuge in her tower, Rapunzel defies Gothel and seizes the opportunity to answer the call of the kingdom. With the unwilling Flynn Ryder along for the journey, Rapunzel leaves the tower for the first time, and begins a hilarious, hairraising journey that will untangle many secrets along the way.
Mother Gothel
She may be controlling, manipulative and over-protective, but Mother Gothel is the only mother Rapunzel has ever known. By stealing Rapunzel as an infant and raising her in the tower, Gothel ensured that she alone would have access to Rapunzel's magical hair, which she uses as her personal fountain of youth. Gothel loves Rapunzel more as a possession than as a daughter, and uses every weapon in her arsenal � including a constant flow of subtle jabs, backhanded compliments and over-the-top guilt trips � to keep Rapunzel hidden away. When Rapunzel finally defies her wishes and ventures out into the world, the delightfully deranged Gothel will to stop at nothing to get her little girl back into the tower.
�Disney
Release date: 17th December 2010 A wide-ranging consumer products programme launches in autumn/winter 2010 DVD release: Easter 2011
Flynn Ryder/Pascal
The ultra-confident Flynn Rider is his own biggest fan, and he has long relied on his wit, charm and good looks to get out of even the stickiest situation � and Flynn's life just happens to be full of sticky situations. Flynn is a thief looking for the one last, big score that will allow him to finally live the life he's always dreamed of. He's never been closer to having it all when he meets Rapunzel, an odd girl with ridiculously long hair. Rapunzel seems to be the only girl in the world immune to Flynn's moves, and for the first time ever he seems to have met his match. An unlikely alliance with this girl from the tower sends Flynn on the adventure of a lifetime, and helps him realize that sometimes you don't know what you want... until it hits you over the head... literally.
Rapunzel's one true friend is her silent, color-changing sidekick, Pascal. Pascal may be just a small chameleon, but he plays a big role in Rapunzel's life. Confidante, coach and cheerleader, Pascal is a driving force behind Rapunzel's decision to leave her lonely tower. This supportive and encouraging companion's true colors just might hold a key to unlocking a royal mystery.
Maximus
The Captain of the Guard's horse, Maximus, has made it his personal mission to capture the wanted criminal, Flynn Rider. Fearless in his pursuit, the horse defies danger to follow Flynn where other guards refuse to go � it seems nothing will stop this "tough-guy cop" from getting his man. Once Maximus meets Rapunzel his heart softens, and he begins to see the world differently. What started as a relentless pursuit may just be the beginning of a beautiful friendship.
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I don't think it's really fair that negatively reviewed movies get to make buckets of money, especially movies like that or Asslight. Yes, I name-called Twilight by replacing "Twi" with "Ass". Shut up.estefan wrote:And I think we've learned from Chipmunks last year, that even negative reviews can't stop a film being a hit. It really depends on the campaign DreamWorks mounts, but they have delivered hit after hit, so it's more guaranteed success than Tangled. That said, MegaMind will have been out three weeks already, so I think Harry Potter is Tangled's bigger competition at this point (and Tangled will likely take MegaMind's 3D screens). However, it should be noted a couple of years back, Bee Movie and Enchanted competed against each other and made about the same amount of money.
Well, Enchanted only cost $85 million, and Bee Movie cost $150 million, and the former gained a little over $340 million worldwide whereas the latter only gained nearly $288 million worldwide.
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This is what I've been planning to do if it's still called Rapunzel there but I'm not holding my breath.Polizzi wrote:Excuse my curiosity, is it going to be called, "Rapunzel," in UK, or, "Tangled?" If it is going to be called, "Rapunzel," in UK, I could buy the DVD from their nation than in the US, but I can still get the movie from the US.

I got my fingers crossed.jpanimation wrote:This is what I've been planning to do if it's still called Rapunzel there but I'm not holding my breath.Polizzi wrote:Excuse my curiosity, is it going to be called, "Rapunzel," in UK, or, "Tangled?" If it is going to be called, "Rapunzel," in UK, I could buy the DVD from their nation than in the US, but I can still get the movie from the US.
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This is a reply message by hollymck from Disney's, "Rapunzel (Tangled)," from IMDb (Internet Movie Database).
SPOILERS ALERT: I heard that Flynn is actually a prince and Rapunzel is not a real princess. Their families switched kids or something. Rapunzel's 'parents', the king and queen, are actually Flynn's family. When the title was being changed from Rapunzel to something else, a tentative title was The Switch, so that would make sense.
Thought it might interest you Disney fans, but what if Rapunzel is the princess, and Flynn Rider is a prince even though he is a bandit? Just a thought.
SPOILERS ALERT: I heard that Flynn is actually a prince and Rapunzel is not a real princess. Their families switched kids or something. Rapunzel's 'parents', the king and queen, are actually Flynn's family. When the title was being changed from Rapunzel to something else, a tentative title was The Switch, so that would make sense.
Thought it might interest you Disney fans, but what if Rapunzel is the princess, and Flynn Rider is a prince even though he is a bandit? Just a thought.
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Ooooo! I hope so! But I'll take it as a grain of salt until the movie's actual release.Polizzi wrote:This is a reply message by hollymck from Disney's, "Rapunzel (Tangled)," from IMDb (Internet Movie Database).
SPOILERS ALERT: I heard that Flynn is actually a prince and Rapunzel is not a real princess. Their families switched kids or something. Rapunzel's 'parents', the king and queen, are actually Flynn's family. When the title was being changed from Rapunzel to something else, a tentative title was The Switch, so that would make sense.
Thought it might interest you Disney fans, but what if Rapunzel is the princess, and Flynn Rider is a prince even though he is a bandit? Just a thought.
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Went ahead a got myself a region-free player. I got tired of the UK getting regular Blus while we're stuck with Digibooks and UCE Boxed Sets with no alternatives. The US and UK also have different distributers on certain movies that result in different transfers and special features. Not to mention they get some cool Steelbooks.ajmrowland wrote:^Well, you better hope to God the dvd's region-free then.
Now look what Disney did with Dumbo. I'd say having a region-free player isn't a bad idea.

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........ What??Polizzi wrote:This is a reply message by hollymck from Disney's, "Rapunzel (Tangled)," from IMDb (Internet Movie Database).
SPOILERS ALERT: I heard that Flynn is actually a prince and Rapunzel is not a real princess. Their families switched kids or something. Rapunzel's 'parents', the king and queen, are actually Flynn's family. When the title was being changed from Rapunzel to something else, a tentative title was The Switch, so that would make sense.
Thought it might interest you Disney fans, but what if Rapunzel is the princess, and Flynn Rider is a prince even though he is a bandit? Just a thought.
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I'm pretty sure that robster16 said something like that would be in the film's plot pages ago.Polizzi wrote:This is a reply message by hollymck from Disney's, "Rapunzel (Tangled)," from IMDb (Internet Movie Database).
SPOILERS ALERT: I heard that Flynn is actually a prince and Rapunzel is not a real princess. Their families switched kids or something. Rapunzel's 'parents', the king and queen, are actually Flynn's family. When the title was being changed from Rapunzel to something else, a tentative title was The Switch, so that would make sense.
Thought it might interest you Disney fans, but what if Rapunzel is the princess, and Flynn Rider is a prince even though he is a bandit? Just a thought.
My friend, who works for Harbour Lights Picture House cinema chain said that in their upcoming releases notification, 'Tangled' was actually named 'Rapunzel' ...... so this could indicate that yes, in fact, the whole of Europe are getting the original title, or Disney didnt change any of the press releases in time ???
I dont know what to expect from Disney with this movie anymore !!
I dont know what to expect from Disney with this movie anymore !!
Is anybody else expecting the trailer to come out this week? I mean, we did get the first Princess and the Frog trailer (the "70 years" one with the Fab Four) three weeks before Up's release, so maybe the same will happen here, hopefully. Disney is really taking their sweet time to release a trailer that is apparently finished and in the can. I mean, we have even seen more footage from Blue Sky's next film Rio and that doesn't come out until March.
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Maybe I can explain the rumor in my perspective so don't expect anything legit.
It starts off with Rapunzel's father stealing rampion from Gothel's garden like in the original story.When Gothel catches him stealing the rampion,she tries to make a deal by trading the rampion for the baby(Rapunzel)(Obviously,Mother Gothel's main focus is getting the magical baby.)
Ofcourse,Rap's father is not going to agree with this deal so Gothel needs a different plan.When the king gets lost in the woods,Gothel leads him out of the woods.This is an advantage for Gothel to receive a reward.She wants Rapunzel so she asks for the first thing to come out the king's palace.The king doesn't want to give up anything valuble(like his son Flynn).He trades Flynn for Rapunzel and Gothel ends up getting Rapunzel.
It still sounds like a *beep* Desperate housewives episode.
It starts off with Rapunzel's father stealing rampion from Gothel's garden like in the original story.When Gothel catches him stealing the rampion,she tries to make a deal by trading the rampion for the baby(Rapunzel)(Obviously,Mother Gothel's main focus is getting the magical baby.)
Ofcourse,Rap's father is not going to agree with this deal so Gothel needs a different plan.When the king gets lost in the woods,Gothel leads him out of the woods.This is an advantage for Gothel to receive a reward.She wants Rapunzel so she asks for the first thing to come out the king's palace.The king doesn't want to give up anything valuble(like his son Flynn).He trades Flynn for Rapunzel and Gothel ends up getting Rapunzel.
It still sounds like a *beep* Desperate housewives episode.
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I really hope that we get the trailer as soon as possible.estefan wrote:Is anybody else expecting the trailer to come out this week? I mean, we did get the first Princess and the Frog trailer (the "70 years" one with the Fab Four) three weeks before Up's release, so maybe the same will happen here, hopefully. Disney is really taking their sweet time to release a trailer that is apparently finished and in the can. I mean, we have even seen more footage from Blue Sky's next film Rio and that doesn't come out until March.
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Just found an early review of Tangled, so I guess ****SPOILER ALERT****:
http://mb.laughingplace.com/MsgBoard-T- ... -1.asp?C=1
http://mb.laughingplace.com/MsgBoard-T- ... -1.asp?C=1
I'm excited for this and this does make me more excited, I'm just surprised at how little is done.Topic: I just saw Tangled! Stop worrying. It's good.
Through the auspices of an alert friend and some good luck, I got to attend a test screening of Tangled this evening in Ontario, CA. (Cue Disney internet monitoring types: "OMG ... who the Helen of Troy let mawnck in to the test screening?" followed by an exhaustive dig through the comment sheets to see if they can figure out which one's me. Pbbbbbbbt.)
They told us that our screening and another one earlier in the evening were the first public showings ever, so we felt pretty special. Even saw John Lasseter his self in the audience gauging the reaction.
Very little of Tangled is finished - about 11% according to our MC, and I doubt it was even that much. There was quite a bit of rough computer animation and quite a bit more still storyboard drawings. Therefore I can't say much about the overall look of the flick other than they're off to a swell start.
It's an action/romance/fairy tale/comedy/musical, with none of those elements overpowering or taking away from the others. For a bit of spiciness, there's an enjoyably disturbing dose of psychodrama in the relationship between Rapunzel and her stepmom Madame Gothel*.
(*I'm horrible with names, and am taking Wikipedia's word for it that Madame Gothel is correct. If it isn't, it's all Wikipedia's fault.)
Miss R doesn't hang out in the tower for too long - it's mostly her and Flynn (who is a wanted criminal with lots of folks after him for assorted reasons) having adventures and falling in looooooove and meeting plenty of interesting people, while trying to avoid Madame G's evil schemes to get R back in the tower.
Even in this rough form, it is a VERY entertaining movie, and the audience was laughing their butts off at the gags (even the ones still on storyboard) and was very engrossed in the exciting stuff - with the exception of one rather flimsy action sequence which I have a funny hunch is going to be a bit different in the finished product, assuming they really do read the comment sheets.
There are some GORGEOUS set-pieces in the works. We had to use our imaginations, but we could tell where they were going. They're gonna be stunning, especially this one thing near the end that I refuse to spoil for you.
Those who were disappointed in the musical numbers in The Princess and the Frog ... Get ready, cause they're about to make it up to you. WONDERFUL songs. At least two of them are Oscar worthy IMHO. One in particular, which involves a tavern full of assorted dangerous scoundrel-types singing about their secret dreams in life, has the potential to be a personal favorite of mine, not to mention a stone-cold classic. It is hee-larious!
If there's one complaint I have, it's that once again there's a cloud of deja vu hanging over the proceedings. Other than the vibe between Rapunzel and Madame Gothel, there's no new ground here ... it's all just a wonderfully-constructed revisiting of the old ground.
The gags are great, the songs are great, the music is great. But if you're over the age of, say, 11, there will be few moments in the movie where you will be on the edge of your seat wondering what happens next. You've seen it all before. Lots of times.
It's particularly hard to ignore the Ariel resemblance in Rapunzel. She practically IS Ariel, albeit a bit more loopy and caffeinated. With more hair and less fins. Perhaps when the movie is finished the visuals will help set her apart. She certainly is a big-eyed cutie in the few completed scenes.
Disney animation buffs will notice many other characters and situations in Tangled that have obvious antecedents in the Disney catalog. Some are pretty flagrant.
Regardless of all that, it is a crowd-pleaser, fun for all ages and all sexes (yes, boys too, so FORCE them to go see it), lots of laughs, wonderful music, and potentially fabulous art direction. I absolutely can't wait to see the finished product.
Especially where in the heck they're going to put all that dang hair in each scene.

