DisneyAnimation88 wrote:thelittleursula wrote:Also I heard that Princess and the Frog did WAAAY better than Chicken Little, Blot and Meet the Robinson's. So there you go.
And Tangled did better than Princess and the Frog. To an executive at the Walt Disney Company that is the statistic that matters. Disney today isn't the Disney we grew up with, creativity has been shunted to the side to make way for MBA's and money-minded executives who would rather bleed every penny they can out of crappy franchises like Hannah Montana and High School Musical than give opportunities to those creative minded people who are actually in tune with what we as Disney fans all want. Hand-drawn and CG animation can co-exist within WDAS, that was John Lasseter and Ed Catmull's plan when they took over the studio, the problem is that one medium makes more money than the other from today's audiences so those MBA's will be thinking "why let them make any more 2D films when CG makes more money?" This attitude is prevelent all through the company, from animated and live-action films to the theme parks.
Here's the deal... the Disney we grew up with was created under two things: ignorance and nostalgia. We are so nostalgic for "old" Disney that we blind ourselves to the truth of things, and claim that everything done now is inferior to whatever was done in the past.
Have you guys seen "Waking Sleeping Beauty"? If you haven't, I recommend that you do. Why? Because it shows that the things you guys claim is hurting the Disney name existed WAY before now. There was always the need to make profit, there was always the need to put content that was set to create revenue, regardless if it was good or not. The reason we see them as superior than anything done today is because we were kids and thus very blissfully ignorant to the facts.
Nowadays, thanks to the internet and a heightened sense of awareness, we see some of the scummy things going on, we no longer have that innocent view of Disney. But instead of completely letting go, you hang onto the ideals of the past because, in your mind, it was perfect than what we are experiencing now.
Saying this makes me into one of three things: a realist, an apologist or just a plain old jerk (people seem to like that one as of late). I love Disney. I love it when I was a kid in the 80s, I love it as a kid/teenager in the 90s, and I love it as an adult today. I don't like some of the decisions they have made today. I too want classic Disney Channel back, not because of nostalgic reasons but because it needs more varied programming. I honestly want more varied animation products so we can have in a year CG movies, hand drawn movies, stop motion movies and heck, hybrid movies as well. I too want the theme parks to receive better care and attention. And I too want Disney to continue working hard with their ideals.
All I am saying is that this extreme, venomous hatred you guys seem to be harvesting is not healthy because, that's how things are. You either just focus on the good, take the good with the bad, or just move on if the bad is too much for you. The people and cast members working with Disney now still have a lot of things to be proud of, despite how things may seem at the moment. Heck, Wreck-It-Ralph, Tangled and such may have been an animator's dream come true, and they are happy that they have gained acceptance with the audience.
In other words: all I am talking about is to RESPECT the people working with the company. Not the suits, the presidents or the decision makers (though they too have their issues to deal with, fan anger being one of them), but the animators, story men and women, cast members that joined the company and still have a deep love and respect towards them.
Also, note that things are no longer the same as in Walt's time. Walt COULD do the things he did because he didn't have to risk as much as they have to now (and even then, Disney was still at risk of losing his studio and assets if certain things didn't work out, are we quick to forget the arguments Walt would get with Roy over profits, budgets and money in general?).
Besides... I am sure that some baby boomers who grew up with Cinderella, Lady and the Tramp, Jungle Book and the re-releases of certain classics saw the efforts of the 80s and 90s as being shallow and NOT the Disney THEY remember. And in a few years time (like in 20 or 30 years), the generation that grew up on today's Disney will look at their recent efforts and say "this isn't the Disney we know and love, Tangled was a much better movie than this garbage".
It's all about perception, and that's something that is always changing between us.
