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D82 wrote: Wed Nov 09, 2022 9:42 pm
D23ExpoVisitor25 wrote: Wed Nov 09, 2022 8:50 pmWell, we'd better hope DisEnchanted's social media reactions are only the day before release because they don't wanna reveal any spoilers. But at least it's not one the night of the premiere like Pinocchio so at least it has that going for it.
Judging by the following tweets, I think it's at the same time as Pinocchio.
What I'm saying is the social media embargo for Pinocchio lifted hours before its premiere. DisEnchanted's social media embargo lifts the day of, meaning likely the mornign or afternoon. If that's the case, I can't see it being bad.
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First song clip:

https://youtu.be/02K_KDuclDQ

Title says ‘Suburbia’ but I think that’s not the title of the song.I think it’s ‘Even more enchanted’. Maybe the track list was out and I missed it so correct me if I’m wrong.

It sounds cute and in line with the vibe of the original. The melody echoes the happy working song a bit even.
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The new song's cute. I'll have to listen to the entire thing to get more of a sense of it. By the way, a new TV spot has been released.
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Well, I`m with the rest of you guys: The song is cute enough. But it sounds too reminiscent of Happy Working Song. It`s almost like a reworked version of it, with the same music key. And sure, it`s mandatory how Morgan comments how Giselle is eager to sing.
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Here's another clip: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSx_qtbtl0U

And this new article, among other things, reveals more details about the songs. Morgan has a solo in which every shot is a nod to another Disney "I want" song and Idina Menzel's solo was purposely written as an homage to "Defying Gravity" from Wicked.
PatrickvD wrote: Fri Nov 11, 2022 11:03 am First song clip:

https://youtu.be/02K_KDuclDQ

Title says ‘Suburbia’ but I think that’s not the title of the song.I think it’s ‘Even more enchanted’. Maybe the track list was out and I missed it so correct me if I’m wrong.

It sounds cute and in line with the vibe of the original. The melody echoes the happy working song a bit even.
Yes, it has to be "Even More Enchanted." I think it sounds really nice! And yes, it's very much in the style of the ones from the original. I thought "Even More Enchanted" would be the musical number where Giselle is in her blue dress dancing in the town square along with many extras. I don't know why, I didn't imagine there would be musical numbers before the spell.
D23ExpoVisitor25 wrote: Fri Nov 11, 2022 8:36 am What I'm saying is the social media embargo for Pinocchio lifted hours before its premiere. DisEnchanted's social media embargo lifts the day of, meaning likely the mornign or afternoon. If that's the case, I can't see it being bad.
Oh, sorry, I misread your comment. I thought you were talking about the review embargo. Well, if the social media embargo lifts earlier, then at least that's better than Pinocchio.
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In another new article, Adam Shankman says it was his idea to turn Giselle into an evil stepmother:
In particular, Shankman said that the film had been sitting in a very long developmental stasis when he went in for a meeting to pitch his angle: Giselle as the "evil" stepmom.

"I said to them, 'You know Giselle is the stepmother?' And it became the jumping off point. It was the low-hanging fruit," he laughed. "Especially when you consider she has this developed stepdaughter who doesn’t believe in magic anymore."
And was it known Idina Menzel had not one but two songs in the original that were cut?
And for those fans of Menzel who always wondered why she didn't get her own song in Enchanted way back when, the actress, as well as composer Alan Menken, explained that she actually had two songs in the original film, including a title song. Unfortunately, they were yanked because they weren't working in the final edit. Menzel joked that Nancy now gets a song, "Love Power," in the sequel, "That I could barely sing live if I tried."
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So I am/was super excited about this film... the trailers were looking great...

And now they are releasing a lot of material, and it is looking... a little less great: that "mirror mirror" clip, Maya R. fully breaks character the moment she doesn't get an immediate response. It kinda kills the mood, and it makes it feel a little like a parody or an SNL skit.
The other two women also feel like they aren't quite in character (though I'm not sure what their character is supposed to be).

And today I saw some clips of the 2D animation. I am thrilled they have hand-drawn animation. Sadly, it looks like quite a bit of a step down in quality (compared to the original or Disney's)...

I'm still looking forward to this movie, but a little apprehensive now...
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Marce82 wrote: Fri Nov 11, 2022 6:03 pm So I am/was super excited about this film... the trailers were looking great...

And now they are releasing a lot of material, and it is looking... a little less great: that "mirror mirror" clip, Maya R. fully breaks character the moment she doesn't get an immediate response. It kinda kills the mood, and it makes it feel a little like a parody or an SNL skit.
The other two women also feel like they aren't quite in character (though I'm not sure what their character is supposed to be).

And today I saw some clips of the 2D animation. I am thrilled they have hand-drawn animation. Sadly, it looks like quite a bit of a step down in quality (compared to the original or Disney's)...

I'm still looking forward to this movie, but a little apprehensive now...
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Hey Fareb!

I can't answer that yet! I will have to watch it to see IF they mess it up! I'm still hopeful.
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D82 wrote: Fri Nov 11, 2022 5:44 pmAnd was it known Idina Menzel had not one but two songs in the original that were cut?
No, we only knew of the title song that was supposed to be a duet. I wonder what the other song was going to be about.
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D82 wrote: Fri Nov 11, 2022 1:44 pmI don't know why, I didn't imagine there would be musical numbers before the spell.
I thought that, too, because I thought Giselle would get so used to "real" life she'd lose her singing. I'm glad she didn't! She's still who she is! Until this new wishing wand spell!

Marce82, yes, this all looks lower in quality now that we've seen so much. The clips remind me a bit of The Pacifier in how that one was directed, even though I swear that one was a hit. I didn't think Maya broke character, but rather was acting how her character would really act all perturbed. I am also so glad we got hand-drawn animation, but it sucks. I'd rather they had never shown Andalasia at all, if it was gonna be like this. And better designed hair and costumes! And a more different take on the mirror! Make it a homage, not a replica in different colors!

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Another clip: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5DaKfTJOaw

I had already noticed Morgan was wearing her mother's dress to go to school in the second trailer, but here it's more noticeable. I guess it's because the boxes that contain all of her clothes are set on fire in that incident in the new house, but couldn't she have still worn the ones she was wearing when that happened?

This promo also features some new footage. And here's a new article:

EXCLUSIVE: Producer Barry Josephson Reveals Plans On Another Sequel And Spin-Offs For ‘Disenchanted’. [INTERVIEW]
https://thehollywoodhandle.co/2022/11/1 ... interview/

Sotiris wrote: Sat Nov 12, 2022 4:58 am No, we only knew of the title song that was supposed to be a duet. I wonder what the other song was going to be about.
Thanks for confirming. I'm surprised she was going to have more than one song. Especially, since her character is pretty much the opposite of Giselle for most of the movie and it wouldn't feel natural for her to burst into song before the ending. Although, deep down she actually wants to believe in "happily ever after" and that kind of stuff, so maybe she had a moment in which she secretly sung about this, for example. If that was the case, I think they took the right decision to cut it; otherwise she and Edward ending up together would've been too predictable.
Disney Duster wrote: Sat Nov 12, 2022 3:15 pm I thought that, too, because I thought Giselle would get so used to "real" life she'd lose her singing. I'm glad she didn't! She's still who she is! Until this new wishing wand spell!
I agree, I was glad to see she still retained her singing too.
Marce82 wrote: Fri Nov 11, 2022 6:03 pm And today I saw some clips of the 2D animation. I am thrilled they have hand-drawn animation. Sadly, it looks like quite a bit of a step down in quality (compared to the original or Disney's)...
Are you referring to that promo that was released some days ago or did you have access to some exclusive footage?

Regarding the new material released looking less great, the "mirror mirror" clip is the first one that gave me that vibe too. I don't know if it was the CGI in the mirror, the lines, the acting or what. Maybe it's a combination of all these things. But the rest of the clips have looked fine to me.
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I don't have access to any exclusive footage. But within the past two days one of the promos they released on youtube had footage at the end of both Edward and Nancy in their animated form, and we actually saw them talk and interact with one another.

Most of the footage I'm seeing I DO like... so I am still hopeful

Side note: I am still bothered they never released the footage of the deleted duet for Nancy and Edward... because they DID film it. Which means it was definitely recorded.
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Marce82 wrote: Sat Nov 12, 2022 8:32 pm I don't have access to any exclusive footage. But within the past two days one of the promos they released on youtube had footage at the end of both Edward and Nancy in their animated form, and we actually saw them talk and interact with one another.
Oh, OK. Yes, that's the promo I was referring to.
Marce82 wrote: Sat Nov 12, 2022 8:32 pm Side note: I am still bothered they never released the footage of the deleted duet for Nancy and Edward... because they DID film it. Which means it was definitely recorded.
It's a shame they never made a Collector's Edition Blu-ray and included all this stuff. They could still make it, but it doesn't seem very likely. Anyway, I hope that song sees the light of day someday.
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AMEN! (to the collector's blu ray some day...)
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D82 wrote: Sat Nov 12, 2022 7:38 pmEXCLUSIVE: Producer Barry Josephson Reveals Plans On Another Sequel And Spin-Offs For ‘Disenchanted’. [INTERVIEW]
https://thehollywoodhandle.co/2022/11/1 ... interview/
The idea for an animated TV show is interesting, but I think it could only work if it was set in Andalasia. It could either be a prequel about Giselle's life before she came to New York or a sequel about the adventures of Edward and Nancy there. Either way, it would be an opportunity to expand on the lore and add to the world-building of the fairy tale world.
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It seems one of the songs that was cut was titled "Cappuccino" and was performed by Oscar Nuñez, who plays Edgar/the magic mirror. The quote below makes it sound like it was a duet by Idina Menzel and him, but I think it's the Google translation, as it's an Indonesian article. Or do they mean each of them had a song in the sequel that got cut?
Idina Menzel, who plays Nancy, finally sings a song in Disenchanted. However, there is a song sung by Idina and Oscar that ended up not being included in the film.

"Idina, my 'Cappuccino' song was also cut. Don't feel bad," Oscar joked.
Source: https://www.idntimes.com/hype/entertain ... d?page=all

This other article mentions that Gabriella Baldacchino, the actress who plays Morgan, has a musical theatre background. I didn't know that. Maybe that's one of the reasons the role of Morgan was recast (supposing the original actress couldn't sing).
For newcomer Baldacchino, who’s no stranger to performing and musical theatres, getting on the of a Disney film was a dream come true. Especially when she gets to sing music written and composed by renowned musicians.

“It’s just kind of completely changed my life. And I’m so, so grateful to sing music written by Alan Menken and Stephen Schwartz.

“I love musical theatre and singing, so that wasn’t new for me. But to get to originate something that they wrote, it’s an honour,” Baldacchino said.
Source: https://www.malaymail.com/news/showbiz/ ... um=Website

Speaking of Morgan, I suspect the following shots could be from her solo. The one in which, according to the director, every shot is a nod to another Disney "I want" song. The first one could perhaps be a tribute to "Sing Sweet Nightingale" from Cinderella (though the magic broom and the cradle look like references to Sleeping Beauty), while the second reminds me of "Belle" from Beauty and the Beast.

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Here's also a new interview with Amy Adams, Maya Rudolph and Gabriella Baldachino. They don't reveal much new about the movie in it, though; it's mostly about their experiences working on the film.
Sotiris wrote: Sun Nov 13, 2022 6:04 am The idea for an animated TV show is interesting, but I think it could only work if it was set in Andalasia. It could either be a prequel about Giselle's life before she came to New York or a sequel about the adventures of Edward and Nancy there. Either way, it would be an opportunity to expand on the lore and add to the world-building of the fairy tale world.
Oh, that didn't occur to me when I read the interview. An animated TV show set in Andalasia would be a wonderful idea!
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D82 wrote: Sun Nov 13, 2022 6:33 pmIt seems one of the songs that was cut was titled "Cappuccino" and was performed by Oscar Nuñez, who plays Edgar/the magic mirror. The quote below makes it sound like it was a duet by Idina Menzel and him, but I think it's the Google translation, as it's an Indonesian article. Or do they mean each of them had a song in the sequel that got cut?
It must be the latter. A duet between Nancy and Edgar doesn't make sense, but I suppose it depends on what type of relationship the two have in the film, if they're even aware of each other, that is.
D82 wrote: Sun Nov 13, 2022 6:33 pmSpeaking of Morgan, I suspect the following shots could be from her solo. The one in which, according to the director, every shot is a nod to another Disney "I want" song. The first one could perhaps be a tribute to "Sing Sweet Nightingale" from Cinderella (though the magic broom and the cradle look like references to Sleeping Beauty), while the second reminds me of "Belle" from Beauty and the Beast.
They have to be from Morgan's solo, I agree. The broom also reminded me of The Sorcerer's Apprentice sequence from Fantasia.
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Sotiris wrote: Sun Nov 13, 2022 7:18 pm It must be the latter. A duet between Nancy and Edgar doesn't make sense, but I suppose it depends on what type of relationship the two have in the film, if they're even aware of each other, that is.
I've now noticed the title of that section of the article is: "There are songs that were not included in the movie." It says "songs" in plural, so it must be that each of them has one, as you said. It's great we'll most likely get to hear them, since as Stephen Schwartz revealed, they'll probably be included in one of the versions of the soundtrack.
Sotiris wrote: Sun Nov 13, 2022 7:18 pm The broom also reminded me of The Sorcerer's Apprentice sequence from Fantasia.
That was actually my first thought, but then I guessed Sleeping Beauty would maybe make more sense in this context. However, on second thought, the brooms in Fantasia are better known, so it's probably a reference to them. Or to both, who knows.

By the way, the cast will be on Jimmy Kimmel Live and The Late Late Show with James Corden next week:
Jimmy Kimmel Live Schedule for the Week of 11/14/2022

Tuesday, Nov. 15
Amy Adams and Maya Rudolph ("Disenchanted")

Thursday, Nov. 17
Patrick Dempsey ("Disenchanted")
Source: https://abc.com/shows/jimmy-kimmel-live ... r-11142022
Idina Menzel & James Marsden will appear on latelateshow with JKCorden on Wednesday, November 16!
Source: https://twitter.com/idina_here/status/1 ... 6804849664
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PatrickvD wrote: Fri Nov 11, 2022 11:03 am First song clip: https://youtu.be/02K_KDuclDQ

Title says ‘Suburbia’ but I think that’s not the title of the song. I think it’s ‘Even more enchanted’. Maybe the track list was out and I missed it so correct me if I’m wrong.
We now have confirmation this song is in fact called "Even More Enchanted". Disney has released the clip in question on their official YouTube channel under that title.
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