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MoonMarc21 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 19, 2023 10:26 pm Asha is looking good as always in those book illustrations, Dahlia looks good as well. The others look so off-model, especially Asha's mother in that one photo, she looks like a muppet

Lol the Muppet comment I was also thinking she looks really weird there, Such BIG eyes

Also the Sneezy Inspired teen reminds me SO MUCH of Ian from Pixars Onward. Almost identical...

Lele wrote: ↑Thu Sep 21, 2023 2:36 am I'm still amazed how the biggest next Disney movie is set in Europe, using culture, clothes etc and all that white people invented, with all main characters being non white, erasing them while using their own country and culture, and the only prominent white character being the evil guy - the first Disney had in a while.

Mind blowing. I can't imagine them making a movie set in Asia or Africa with all good main characters being white, so why do they think this is fine and everyone acts the same as well, when people would be screaming genocide if Disney had a white character in a setting where white people were a minority?

And if the goal was to have non white characters, what' the reason for even going out of their way to intentionally use a european setting and not set it in fictional China, Morocco or Kenya with the same diverse cast, especially since they could use the same flawed logic that these place were historically diverse at some point in the past and it would actually align with their agenda in putting non whites in front and the main characters would make more sense?

Edit: is that guy even spaniard/portuguese to get mad in our behalf?

What is even whiteness?

Why King Magnifico is considered white by him when he has the same skin tone as the rest of the brown characters

Spain has been always a diverse country, it's documented in history, the movie is set during the Al Andalus (or maybe after but around that time)

Spaniards are not white, spaniard is a nationality, millions of """"native""""" spaniards would never get considered white in the USA, there are many videos from spaniards living in the USA and not being considered white by the people.

So don't include us in your neon4z! idea of european racial purity supremacy

Spain is not white and will never be white (not even the indigenous iberos from pre-Roman times where white, they were dark-skinned)

Edit2:

Queen Amaya is so spaniard, she looks so valencian fallera mixed with "La Dama De Elche", also her name is very clearly based (at least I think) in the iconic Carmen Amaya

Not to get embroiled in this whole race thing, but since when are Spaniards not white?

I'm from a Mediterranean country, like Spain. We're white here. Maybe not as white as Sweden or Finland, but Caucasian nevertheless. I believe the same applies for other southern European countries including Cyprus, Greece, Italy, Spain and Portugal.

Unless I am mistaken even northern African countries like Libya or Tunisia are technically white. Their skintone may be a bit darker than what you'll find in Southern Europe, but they're also Caucasoids.

I dunno ...

Jules wrote: ↑Thu Sep 21, 2023 4:19 am Not to get embroiled in this whole race thing, but since when are Spaniards not white?

I'm from a Mediterranean country, like Spain. We're white here. Maybe not as white as Sweden or Finland, but Caucasian nevertheless. I believe the same applies for other southern European countries including Cyprus, Greece, Italy, Spain and Portugal.

Unless I am mistaken even northern African countries like Libya or Tunisia are technically white. Their skintone may be a bit darker than what you'll find in Southern Europe, but they're also Caucasoids.

I dunno ...

Race is a social construct, nobody has a real definition of race because there's not one

Race is phenotype, and what phenotype is white or not is decided by the observer (the person that sees you) and not the observed person (you) so you can't really call yourself white, someone has to say you are (and it's individual so you can be white to one and POC to another)

That's why many people get called different nationalities/ethnicities while travelling and are racialized or not in certain regions of the world

Mediterraneans (as a whole) are sometimes racialized and some not

Look at Rachel Zegler, a USA girl of half Polish ancestry and half colombian ancestry, with her colombian side being FULLY iberian (just in case someone thinks colombian is a race) but people in this forum calls her brown, when she's racially and by phenotype mediterranean/iberian

Because race is a social construct, not something with a correct answer

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We are also excited for the release of the new trailer for Disney's Wish. We made a list showing the premiere dates of the trailers for the past Disney animated films starting with 2010's Tangled.

Tangled (Release Date: Wednesday, November 24, 2010)
Teaser Trailer: Sunday, February 28, 2010 (269 days)
Trailer #1: Friday, June 11, 2010 (166 days)
Trailer #2: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 (70 days)
Trailer #3: Thursday, November 4, 2010 (20 days)

Winnie the Pooh (Release Date: Friday, July 15, 2011)
Trailer #1: Monday, November 8, 2010 (249 days)

Wreck-It Ralph (Release Date: Friday, November 2, 2012)
Teaser Trailer: Thursday, June 7, 2012 (148 days)
Trailer #1: Thursday, September 13, 2012 (50 days)

Frozen (Release Date: Wednesday, November 27, 2013)
Teaser Trailer: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 (161 days)
Trailer #1: Thursday, September 26, 2013 (62 days)
Trailer #2: Tuesday, October 22, 2013 (36 days)

Big Hero 6 (Release Date: Friday, November 7, 2014)
Teaser Trailer: Thursday, May 22, 2014 (169 days)
Trailer #1: Tuesday, July 15, 2014 (115 days)
Trailer #2: Thursday, September 25, 2014 (43 days)

Zootopia (Release Date: Friday, March 4, 2016)
Teaser Trailer: Thursday, June 11, 2015 (267 days)
Trailer #1 (Sloth Trailer): Monday, November 23, 2015 (102 days)
Trailer #2: December 31, 2015 (64 days)

Moana (Release Date: Wednesday, November 23, 2016)
Teaser Trailer: Sunday, June 12, 2016 (164 days)
Trailer #1: Thursday, September 15, 2016 (69 days)

Ralph Breaks the Internet (Release Date: Wednesday, November 21, 2018)
Teaser Trailer: Wednesday, February 28, 2018 (266 days)
Trailer #1: Monday, June 4, 2018 (170 days)
Trailer #2: Thursday, September 20, 2018 (62 days)

Frozen II (Release Date: Friday, November 22, 2019)
Teaser Trailer: Wednesday, February 13, 2019 (282 days)
Trailer #1: Tuesday, June 11, 2019 (164 days)
Trailer #2: Monday, September 23, 2019 (60 days)

Raya and the Last Dragon (Release Date: Friday, March 5, 2021)
Teaser Trailer: Wednesday, October 21, 2020 (135 days)
Trailer #1: Tuesday, January 26, 2021 (38 days)

Encanto (Release Date: Wednesday, November 24, 2021)
Teaser Trailer: Thursday, July 8, 2021 (139 days)
Trailer #1: Wednesday, September 29, 2021 (56 days)

Strange World (Release Date: Wednesday, November 23, 2022)
Teaser Trailer: Monday, June 6, 2022 (170 days)
Trailer #1: Wednesday, September 21, 2022 (63 days)

Wish (Release Date: Wednesday, November 22, 2023)
Teaser Trailer: Thursday, April 27, 2023 (209 days)
Trailer #1: ????

It should be coming out any day now. It is currently 62 days before it is released in theaters.

Looking at the information above, we're predicting the trailer will be released on Wednesday, September 27.

Considering press like Tessa Smith at Mama’s Geeky is visiting Walt Disney Animation Studios right now as we speak to get more details on Once Upon a Studio and Disney’s Wish (https://instagram.com/stories/mamasgeek ... BiNWFlZA==), it looks like the trailer will indeed be coming next week.

Is it significant that Queen Amaya has a doll? I’m just surprised by that, but I don’t have an encyclopedic knowledge of Disney dolls. But the only other times I can think of when a secondary, older female character was turned into a doll, they are usually villains, right? Maybe it’s just because her costume is more princess-y than Asha’s?

I will definitely be buying a plush of the star character.

I think it's just because Queen Amaya has a better design than Asha (unless she gets a similar dress at the end of the movie when she becomes a princess)

And male dolls (Magnífico) don't sell well, so I guess it's just that

I mean, I am obsessed with Queen Amaya’s costume. I am more inclined to buy her doll than Asha’s. So maybe it is just an aesthetics thing…

The new Wish trailer drops on Wednesday morning: https://x.com/paytoncoelho/status/17049 ... 37358?s=46.

He deleted the tweet, what did he explicitly said? That the embargo ends next Wednesday or that the trailer comes out next Wednesday

Because the embargo can end and the trailer come out another day

But makes sense for the embargo and trailer to come out the same day

I'm tired of Disney showing 10/20/30 minutes to press and nothing to us

D23ExpoVisitor25 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 21, 2023 6:23 pm The new Wish trailer drops on Wednesday morning: https://x.com/paytoncoelho/status/17049 ... 37358?s=46.

Is that link not working for anyone else?

ElMaximo13 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 22, 2023 4:29 am

D23ExpoVisitor25 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 21, 2023 6:23 pm The new Wish trailer drops on Wednesday morning: https://x.com/paytoncoelho/status/17049 ... 37358?s=46.

Is that link not working for anyone else?

It clearly says that the tweet was deleted

The tweet said the trailer was coming on Wednesday. I think they might change the date now.

Embargo is usually lifted the same week the movie premieres.

Pokenonbinary wrote: ↑Thu Sep 21, 2023 3:03 am

Lele wrote: ↑Thu Sep 21, 2023 2:36 am I'm still amazed how the biggest next Disney movie is set in Europe, using culture, clothes etc and all that white people invented, with all main characters being non white, erasing them while using their own country and culture, and the only prominent white character being the evil guy - the first Disney had in a while.

Mind blowing. I can't imagine them making a movie set in Asia or Africa with all good main characters being white, so why do they think this is fine and everyone acts the same as well, when people would be screaming genocide if Disney had a white character in a setting where white people were a minority?

And if the goal was to have non white characters, what' the reason for even going out of their way to intentionally use a european setting and not set it in fictional China, Morocco or Kenya with the same diverse cast, especially since they could use the same flawed logic that these place were historically diverse at some point in the past and it would actually align with their agenda in putting non whites in front and the main characters would make more sense?

Edit: is that guy even spaniard/portuguese to get mad in our behalf?

What is even whiteness?

Why King Magnifico is considered white by him when he has the same skin tone as the rest of the brown characters

Spain has been always a diverse country, it's documented in history, the movie is set during the Al Andalus (or maybe after but around that time)

Spaniards are not white, spaniard is a nationality, millions of """"native""""" spaniards would never get considered white in the USA, there are many videos from spaniards living in the USA and not being considered white by the people.

So don't include us in your neon4z! idea of european racial purity supremacy

Spain is not white and will never be white (not even the indigenous iberos from pre-Roman times where white, they were dark-skinned)

Edit2:

Queen Amaya is so spaniard, she looks so valencian fallera mixed with "La Dama De Elche", also her name is very clearly based (at least I think) in the iconic Carmen Amaya

Amaya is a name that comes from País Vasco and the head band looks very inspired in La Dama de Elche as you said. In my opinion they made a great job with her

Thumper_93 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 22, 2023 5:22 am

Pokenonbinary wrote: ↑Thu Sep 21, 2023 3:03 am
Edit: is that guy even spaniard/portuguese to get mad in our behalf?

What is even whiteness?

Why King Magnifico is considered white by him when he has the same skin tone as the rest of the brown characters

Spain has been always a diverse country, it's documented in history, the movie is set during the Al Andalus (or maybe after but around that time)

Spaniards are not white, spaniard is a nationality, millions of """"native""""" spaniards would never get considered white in the USA, there are many videos from spaniards living in the USA and not being considered white by the people.

So don't include us in your neon4z! idea of european racial purity supremacy

Spain is not white and will never be white (not even the indigenous iberos from pre-Roman times where white, they were dark-skinned)

Edit2:

Queen Amaya is so spaniard, she looks so valencian fallera mixed with "La Dama De Elche", also her name is very clearly based (at least I think) in the iconic Carmen Amaya

Amaya is a name that comes from País Vasco and the head band looks very inspired in La Dama de Elche as you said. In my opinion they made a great job with her

I know Amaya is euskera, but in my opinion they copied that name from Carmen Amaya, she constantly gets viral tweets in English every 4 or 5 months, so it's not impossible that Fawn the directors knows her existence

Also as a curiosity Viola from One Piece is based in Lola Flores and Carmen Amaya

A whole collection of school stuff made by SAFTA is now available in Spain
https://safta.com/es/catalogsearch/result/?q=Wish

Someone that went to the press thing yesterday said on Twitter that the producers said Rosas was a mix of the whole mediterranean, that doesn't make any sense when the king and Queen are very obviously spanish, Asha grandparent has a spanish sephardic name, half of the Teens have spanish sounding names and the island is set close to the iberian peninsula (and the name is Rosas in spanish) and the architecture is mozarabe (also Jennifer Lee in a Barcelona event said the kingdom takes inspiration from many mosques in Spain)

What I'm saying is that they should simply say Spain, its not that difficult to say when it's pretty obvious

They’re probably keeping the location deliberately vague so as to avoid having to explain why there are so many non-Spanish characters in a film set in España , except for, as you say, el Rey y la Reina.

In a fictional place such as Rosas more “diversity” boxes can be checked.

carolinakid wrote: ↑Fri Sep 22, 2023 7:08 am They’re probably keeping the location deliberately vague so as to avoid having to explain why there are so many non-Spanish characters in a film set in España , except for, as you say, el Rey y la Reina.

In a fictional place such as Rosas more “diversity” boxes can be checked.

But Asha is very explicitly spanish, she's from the al andalus period, her name is Wish in Arabic and her mom name is also Arabic

Asha (in spanish Axa) is one of the little moorish girls from Jaén, a popular poetry from Federico García Lorca.

Half of the Teens have spanish names and the others have arabic names, the grandpa has a Spanish sephardic name

Saying the movie is not spanish is racism and antiblackness, ignoring black spanish history is ignoring spanish history