The Princess and the Frog Discussion - Part III

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Which is your favorite PatF character?

Princess Tiana
48
27%
Prince Naveen
19
11%
Dr. Facilier
33
19%
Mama Odie
7
4%
Eudora & James (Tiana's parents)
1
1%
Charlotte La Bouff
32
18%
Eli "Big Daddy" La Bouff (Charlotte's father)
1
1%
Ray (the firefly)
15
8%
Louis (the alligator)
19
11%
Other (say which)
3
2%
 
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One thing I loving the most about the movie right now is how it has inspired a lot of great fan videos on YouTube!

You already saw the Michigan J. Frog parody... So here's the sequel!
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And here's this fantastic music video, Fireflies (SPOILERS!):
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Then there are the trailer crossovers, in which the use footage of another series or movies and combine it with the audio of the two Princess and the Frog trailers for hilarious results!

Here's Sonic the Hedgehog as Prince Naveen:
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And the trailer featuring the Sonic cast:
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And the Monsters vs. Aliens version :D :
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So... It's true when they say PatF gets better on repeat viewings. And I mean REALLY better. All the things that bothered me the first time around I didn't even notice this time. It's like everything came to its place and I felt completely drawn into the movie. Seeing it on the big screen in its full glory also helped the experience ;). And I also got a gift - PatF movie poster :D!

On a related note, something I noticed in the movie during La Bouffs' costume party: there's a couple dressed in Arabian attire, a couple dressed as a mermaid and a pirate and, of course, Big Daddy La Bouff wearing the Greek tunic. Possible reference to Musker and Clements' three other movies ("Aladdin", "The Little Mermaid" and "Hercules", respectively)?
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Mooky wrote: On a related note, something I noticed in the movie during La Bouffs' costume party: there's a couple dressed in Arabian attire, a couple dressed as a mermaid and a pirate and, of course, Big Daddy La Bouff wearing the Greek tunic. Possible reference to Musker and Clements' three other movies ("Aladdin", "The Little Mermaid" and "Hercules", respectively)?
Maybe.... but they did four movie together, not three. So I would guess that the pirate would be a reference to Treasure Planet, and not TLM, which had no pirates.
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I didn't forget about them directing "Treasure Planet", it's just that, for some strange reason, I expected it to be represented by some futuristic-looking costume. So maybe pirate and mermaid dancing together is a reference to both "Treasure Planet" and "The Little Mermaid" - the pirate has a peg-leg, after all ;).
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I wonder if there are anybody dressed as mouse detectives at the party, too. :wink:

The week-end estimates are in and The Princess and the Frog is now at $99,155,000 domestically. Damn. I thought this weekend, it would reach the magical $100 million for sure. It's just a small smidgen away. Just a little bit more.
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It will pas $100 million next weekend. After that, it's gonna be exciting to track its overseas performance when it starts hitting the bigger countries like the UK, France, Spain and Japan.
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estefan wrote:The week-end estimates are in and The Princess and the Frog is now at $99,155,000 domestically. Damn. I thought this weekend, it would reach the magical $100 million for sure. It's just a small smidgen away. Just a little bit more.
With a Thursday total of $97.9 million, I knew it couldn't reach $100 million this weekend. Not with a total of $2.7 million last weekend and a likelihood of a 40+% drop (ended up begin 56.8%).

With weekday totals it won't be until next weekend where it reaches the $100 million mark. However with a $1.2 million gross this weekend I think we can say it's domestic run is pretty much done, as it will no longer make more than $1 million each weekend at this point.

Oh, and Hunchback's $100 million in 1996 is alot more than Frog's $100 million today. Adjusting for inflation, Frog's total is more like Atlantis' run. And the international total is no where near the $315 million the film would likely have to make for Disney to recover it's investment (the "3 times rule" feel free to look it up) so there's no reason to celebrate just yet.
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Flanger-Hanger wrote:
estefan wrote:The week-end estimates are in and The Princess and the Frog is now at $99,155,000 domestically. Damn. I thought this weekend, it would reach the magical $100 million for sure. It's just a small smidgen away. Just a little bit more.
With a Thursday total of $97.9 million, I knew it couldn't reach $100 million this weekend. Not with a total of $2.7 million last weekend and a likelihood of a 40+% drop (ended up begin 56.8%).

With weekday totals it won't be until next weekend where it reaches the $100 million mark. However with a $1.2 million gross this weekend I think we can say it's domestic run is pretty much done, as it will no longer make more than $1 million each weekend at this point.

Oh, and Hunchback's $100 million in 1996 is alot more than Frog's $100 million today. Adjusting for inflation, Frog's total is more like Atlantis' run. And the international total is no where near the $315 million the film would likely have to make for Disney to recover it's investment (the "3 times rule" feel free to look it up) so there's no reason to celebrate just yet.
It most likely will make $300 million worldwide. I mean, it hasn't opened in Japan, the UK, France, the Benelux, Portugal and Scandinavia. Those are some of the biggest overseas markets and it already has made $67.3 million so close to $200 million overseas is pretty much guaranteed.

And most of the profit will come from dvd sales and the merchandise. Wich is a lot of money.
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PatrickvD wrote:And most of the profit will come from dvd sales and the merchandise. Which is a lot of money.
I was under the impression that a brand new Disney animated blockbuster with a reduced budget and a guaranteed formula for success, could easily turn a profit with worldwide box office totals. I'm sure those in that particular division of the company don't care what the film does in merch/DVD sales and are asking hard questions about why the film has struggled to make even $100 million domestically and why it wasn't even in the top 5 animated releases for the year of 2009. I know I would be.
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Well, I'm pretty much still hoping that TPatF is able to hit the $100 million mark domestically by next weekend. I mean, it's only got $850,000 or a little more to go till it gets there. And hopefully, it shall.
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Flangy, this is the last place you posted, so you'll probably look here again...

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Amazon, Barnes and Noble, and Best Buy have listings for "Bayou Boogie: Inspired by The Princess and the Frog," a CD that will be released the same day as the DVD.

http://www.amazon.com/Bayou-Boogie-Insp ... B0034BW8UC
http://music.barnesandnoble.com/Bayou-B ... d+the+frog
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This week the film will finally come out in The Netherlands, so I can go see it, too! But I don't expect huge audiences, because there hasn't been any advertising for this film. No marketing at all. Nobody knows it's coming, except the Disney-fans. The general audience not so much. Not even the Dutch weekly 'Donald Duck' comic magazine has paid any attention to it at all. Besides, tradition is that a new Disney film comes out around Christmas, so the whole family will go together to see it. February is an odd time of the year to release a Disney Classic.
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Goliath wrote:This week the film will finally come out in The Netherlands, so I can go see it, too! But I don't expect huge audiences, because there hasn't been any advertising for this film. No marketing at all. Nobody knows it's coming, except the Disney-fans. The general audience not so much. Not even the Dutch weekly 'Donald Duck' comic magazine has paid any attention to it at all. Besides, tradition is that a new Disney film comes out around Christmas, so the whole family will go together to see it. February is an odd time of the year to release a Disney Classic.
Well, that sucks. :(
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They more or less did the same thing with Up too. It appeared in theaters a month before it was released on Blu-ray/DVD in the US.
It sucks that it's so late, but I'm glad it appears to be in the original English version. I had to watch Meet the Robinsons in Dutch because that was the only version available in the theaters.
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In France, The Princess and the Frog had a strong opening day : twice more than Bolt and almost like Up. It could be the N°1 of the week and stop Avatar, after 6 weeks beeing N°1. Figures are all the more impressive as France is not in period of school holidays.
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Goliath wrote:This week the film will finally come out in The Netherlands, so I can go see it, too! But I don't expect huge audiences, because there hasn't been any advertising for this film. No marketing at all. Nobody knows it's coming, except the Disney-fans. The general audience not so much. Not even the Dutch weekly 'Donald Duck' comic magazine has paid any attention to it at all. Besides, tradition is that a new Disney film comes out around Christmas, so the whole family will go together to see it. February is an odd time of the year to release a Disney Classic.
It's a pity that "Donald Duck" did not pay attention to TpatF, are the editors asleep or something? I remember this magazine paid attention to upcoming Disney movies months ahead of their release, even if it was just a little snippet of information. Indeed February is and odd time for the release of a Disney animated feature, but is a Christmas release in the USA not also a bit uncommon? The hits from the 90's mostly premiered in the USA's summer holidays. Europe is always a few months later with the release of Disney animated features, probably it was not even possible to release the movie at Christmastime.

This is not to say that there was no attention for TPatF in the Dutch media at all. Weeks ago there was an article in NRC Handelsblad, this week in the Dutch Metro and last month's Opzij also paid attention to it (though it was wrongheaded in claiming that the Disney world thus far had only been white). Last Sunday there was an item about PatF in the TV programme Films & Stars. So I don't think that "nobody knows it's coming". I think the movie will get plenty of publicity next week!

Probably we also have to 'blame' James Cameron for this because of all the sensation surrounding his "Avatar". A traditional animated movie is quite 'common' compared to his 3D CGI SciFi adventure.
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Well, if I wasn't a Disney fan, I'm almost sure I wouldn't have know it was coming until after it was on dvd. My cousin for example has no clue who Tiana is. Plus, the Dutch trailer is kinda weird since it still features the English songs!
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tv spots will start airing next week and once school holidays in february start it will do great business. Bolt did the same thing last year.
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BelleGirl wrote:It's a pity that "Donald Duck" did not pay attention to TpatF, are the editors asleep or something? I remember this magazine paid attention to upcoming Disney movies months ahead of their release, even if it was just a little snippet of information.
That's a long time ago. I remember them doing that in the 1990's, but can't remember them doing anything about Disney films since. Indeed, the editors are asleep. It got stale a long time ago.
BelleGirl wrote:This is not to say that there was no attention for TPatF in the Dutch media at all. Weeks ago there was an article in NRC Handelsblad, this week in the Dutch Metro and last month's Opzij also paid attention to it (though it was wrongheaded in claiming that the Disney world thus far had only been white). Last Sunday there was an item about PatF in the TV programme Films & Stars. So I don't think that "nobody knows it's coming".
Meh... 'NRC Handelsblad' is not read by the mass audience which usually goes to see Disney films with their families. An article in 'Telegraaf' or 'Algemeen dagblad' would be much more helpful. 'Opzij' is a feminist magazine, again not widely read. And Films Stars is broadcast sundays early in the afternoon, isn't it? I doubt many people would watch it. 'Metro' is really the only mass-publication.

Besides, none of those publications/programs is targeted at or read/watched by children.

I remember there being a lot of publicity about Up, although it got help from its premiere at Cannes.
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