Frozen: Part IV

[Lady Cluck]

I have to laugh at Disney fans complaining about recycling voice actors. They've always done it! Especially in Walt's day when some characters sounded exactly the same. I think it's safe to say the Duke won't sound anything like King Candy/Ed Wynn so who cares. If they do their job the character will come alive and won't be noticeably Alan Tudyk.

[Warm Regards]

I think Oakton or whatever his name will be like Rafiki. The "Control your powers" is defientely not the Duke since he pretty much banishes her and it sounds too old for Hans, so it's defientely Oakton or Elsa's father.

Maybe Oaken is Elsa's/ Anna's father.

I just made this movie confusing.

[Sotiris]

And the prophecy will say a evil ruler will take over. I think the Duke will be a side-villain like the Stabbington Brothers while Hans will be the main villain.

I think the opposite will happen. The Duke will try to take over the reins of the kingdom from Hans and perhaps trick Hans into doing his bidding. I don't believe Hans will be a villain at all.

[Tristy]

I have to laugh at Disney fans complaining about recycling voice actors. They've always done it! Especially in Walt's day when some characters sounded exactly the same. I think it's safe to say the Duke won't sound anything like King Candy/Ed Wynn so who cares. If they do their job the character will come alive and won't be noticeably Alan Tudyk.

Sterling Holloway being another notable example. Even though he has been good at differentiating his personalities, he still sounds the same.

[Edthehyena]

So I suppose the name "Frozen" is more justified now, if anyone is still iffy on that.

No, it's not. Disney always deviated significantly from the source material but it was not until recently this became an excuse to change the original title. The fact that the movie is only loosely inspired and that's supposedly the reason they didn't retain the original title is PR nonsense and frankly it's not fooling anyone. They said the exact same thing about the title change for Tangled.

Wait a minute. Disney NEVER deviated SO significantly from the source ! First time all characters expect one ( snow queen ( yeah and trolls, maybe, an Sven and a " princess")) simply disappear and they have to create new ones with NEW names ! SO a new title is logical. I tell you, in France, we have "the snow queen" title, and it will bring disappointement. Anyway...

As for Hans, i see many people wishing he's not the villain. But such a handsome villain, i said it before, would be so original. Caring, loving, charming first, then turning into a tyrant...
As for Oaken, i'm not sure Elsa will interact with him. I think she will run to her palace and lock herself in from the beginning. Well, who knows, she might get out of it sometimes...

[Candy-Bonita95]

Edthehyena Hans is not the villain.Don't worry.I was disappointed too.I would rather have a sexy villain than another version of Ratcliffe.I still don't think the Duke is the main villain.Antagonist can be a trait within the main character .Anna's weakness is that she believes that Hans understands her more than her sister.Elsa's weakness is her anxieties.

Most likely the plot goes like this.Elsa is crowned Queen.Anna and Hans date.Elsa's powers are revealed.Duke discourages Elsa.Anna goes of to find her leaving the responsibility of stopping Duke's evil plan to Hans.Anna meets Kristoff and the gang.Anna talks about Hans to Kristoff;however,Kristoff thinks Anna is way over her head with this guy.Anna and Kristoff fall in love.Anna mends broken relationship with Elsa.The three go home and see that Hans has failed greatly to stop the Duke.Anna is all like,"What the f*¢~ Hans?Did you try to do anything while I was gone?"Elsa kicks the Duke's ass out of the throne and everyone lives happily ever after.

And I still wonder WTF Hans will do in this movie.It would be pretty retarded if he doesn't even try to protect the kingdom.

[taei]

I think that Kristof leaves Anna and Elsa. Then Anna and Elsa get captured when they get back to the kingdom. Kristoff finds out somehow and rides to the rescue.

and Oh tumblr..

[taei]

Oh hey Disney!

How To Train Your Dragon 2 comes out in a year, and Dreamworks just released their first teaser which also revolves around the main characters... Unlike a specific movie..

[Disney's Divinity]

Wait a minute. Disney NEVER deviated SO significantly from the source !

qindarka would disagree with you. At least, he has when anyone else says that.

I'm expecting the film's endgame to be Elsa/Kristoff and Anna/Hans. I suspect they're going with the opposites attract idea again. Elsa and Hans are more serious/reserved and Anna and Kristoff are more outgoing/rambunctious.

[Edthehyena]

Edthehyena Hans is not the villain.Don't worry.I was disappointed too.I would rather have a sexy villain than another version of Ratcliffe.I still don't think the Duke is the main villain.Antagonist can be a trait within the main character .Anna's weakness is that she believes that Hans understands her more than her sister.Elsa's weakness is her anxieties.

Most likely the plot goes like this.Elsa is crowned Queen.Anna and Hans date.Elsa's powers are revealed.Duke discourages Elsa.Anna goes of to find her leaving the responsibility of stopping Duke's evil plan to Hans.Anna meets Kristoff and the gang.Anna talks about Hans to Kristoff;however,Kristoff thinks Anna is way over her head with this guy.Anna and Kristoff fall in love.Anna mends broken relationship with Elsa.The three go home and see that Hans has failed greatly to stop the Duke.Anna is all like,"What the f*¢~ Hans?Did you try to do anything while I was gone?"Elsa kicks the Duke's ass out of the throne and everyone lives happily ever after.

And I still wonder WTF Hans will do in this movie.It would be pretty retarded if he doesn't even try to protect the kingdom.

Thanx Candy Bonita for your theory, but it's just a theory isn'it ? How do u know Hans is not the villain ? He still can be, even more greedy and meaner than Duke !... And on another point, i think it's pretty obvious the coronation AND the release of the powers are in the same major dramatic scene...

[TheSequelOfDisney]

I have to laugh at Disney fans complaining about recycling voice actors. They've always done it! Especially in Walt's day when some characters sounded exactly the same. I think it's safe to say the Duke won't sound anything like King Candy/Ed Wynn so who cares. If they do their job the character will come alive and won't be noticeably Alan Tudyk.

Sterling Holloway being another notable example. Even though he has been good at differentiating his personalities, he still sounds the same.

And we shouldn't forget about Kathryn Beaumont, who provided the voices for the lead characters in back to back films (the titular character in Alice in Wonderland and Wendy in Peter Pan). I don't think we should get too concerned about Tudyk being in another film so recently. We haven't even seen any clips of the Duke, so it seems wise to withhold judgement until November (when one can actually see Frozen).

[Lady Cluck]

Well by mentioning Ed Wynn I was just referring to the fact that King Candy was essentially Alan Tudyk's impression of him. That's not his real voice so I'm sure he'll come up with something else for this duke guy.

Here's a thread with more examples: http://www.dvdizzy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3123

One of the funniest to me is David Ogden Stiers playing Radcliffe AND Wiggins in THE SAME MOVIE (in addition to Cogsworth in BATB, the Archdeacon in HOTND, Jumba in Lilo and Stitch, and more). I can only imagine how people here would react to that situation.

[DancingCrab]

Well by mentioning Ed Wynn I was just referring to the fact that King Candy was essentially Alan Tudyk's impression of him. That's not his real voice so I'm sure he'll come up with something else for this duke guy.

THANK YOU!

I can't believe anyone could be so daft as to think he's going to use the same Ed Wynn voice impersonation on The Duke, yet leave it to some fans on a message forum...

[Sotiris]

On computers inside the hat building, I've seen beautiful and intricate scenes from the November feature. The production is in the last couple weeks of animation, the last two months of surfacing, lighting and editorial. I haven't seen enough of the movie to say if it's any good, but a sufficient number of scenes have crossed my eyes to know that its visuals are strong.

Source: http://animationguildblog.blogspot.com/ ... suals.html

[Lnds500]

On computers inside the hat building, I've seen beautiful and intricate scenes from the November feature. The production is in the last couple weeks of animation, the last two months of surfacing, lighting and editorial. I haven't seen enough of the movie to say if it's any good, but a sufficient number of scenes have crossed my eyes to know that its visuals are strong.

Source: http://animationguildblog.blogspot.com/ ... suals.html

So it's almost over? I thought they were running behind

[Atlantica]

Well its still cutting it pretty close.....if they are two months away from being done, that will be around mid-September, leaving around one and a half months before release !

[TheSequelOfDisney]

Well its still cutting it pretty close.....if they are two months away from being done, that will be around mid-September, leaving around one and a half months before release !

Disney's always had tight productions. I mean, Fantasia was finished only mere hours before it was first shown!

[Candy-Bonita95]

Thanx Candy Bonita for your theory, but it's just a theory isn'it ? How do u know Hans is not the villain ? He still can be, even more greedy and meaner than Duke !... And on another point, i think it's pretty obvious the coronation AND the release of the powers are in the same major dramatic scene...

Hans can have weaknesses,but he can't be greedy a la Ratcliffe or Prince John.The question "Wtf did you do Hans while I was gone?" is a good question.Now we have some idea who he is,we just don't know what he will do.So it's save to say he is not in the same ranking as the Duke.That's enough theoretical talk about Hans.Back to the stuff we do know.

Lol, Patrick,if you are going to throw prints of this forum around Disney Studios,PLEASE print the Hans/villain theories.I think Buck and Lee will shit bricks laughing.

We can also imagine what Hans will sound like.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipFLFEvlw3U Watch the whole episode or watch the scene 12:00 to 13:30.I love would to hear Santino' emotional voice in Frozen.
Then we have this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8pRRhZ52yI.He is just so cute! *fan girl scream*I love how he randomly pulls out a pretzel and feeds it to Laura.

Next time I'll put up Jonathan Groff singing. I don't like the Queen covers from Jonathan Groff in Glee because they don't really have the same emotion as the originals.I can still find some videos of him singing.

Well its still cutting it pretty close.....if they are two months away from being done, that will be around mid-September, leaving around one and a half months before release !

Does that mean post production advertising for Frozen will be crazy in September and October?

[disneyprincess11]

The new clip art of Elsa from Wednesday is much better to see:

So it's almost over? I thought they were running behind

Actually, a recent interview from the directors said that they're constantly adding and removing new things in the flick.



BTW: I have to admit: Disney hasn't been so open about a movie since Princess and the Frog. By June for PATF (from what I can remember), the story was already given out, along with the books, spoilers, and characters. During Tangled around this time, there was NOTHING at all, but the crappy teaser. Nothing really came out until much later. I didn't get into WIR until the first trailer, but I think nothing, but books and the trailer were released, I could be wrong.

And now, in June/July, Frozen EXPLODED after MONTHS of no information with the complete voice cast and the characters and some story plots.

[Polizzi]

Every time I look at Elsa, she almost looks exactly like Rapunzel. What do you think?

Here's the larger image.