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This looks hand-drawn alright!!! I'm in!!!!

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Are those real in-movie pics? If so, it looks like totally concept-art hand-drawn(really disney-like), which i like. In any case more appealing to me than CGI, but still I'm not totally convinced(some details look unfinished) ...but I totally see oppertunities if this kind of animation gets perfectioned
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The first stills from Paperman have been released by Entertainment Weekly!

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Read the full article, which goes further into the technique, process and story: http://insidemovies.ew.com/2012/06/28/f ... -paperman/
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SWillie! wrote: Read the full article, which goes further into the technique, process and story: http://insidemovies.ew.com/2012/06/28/f ... -paperman/
Hhm, where have I seen that link before? :wink:
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Haha dang it! I was doing my post on my phone so it took forever. You guys all beat me to it in the meantime :lol:

Anyways, yes - these are indeed actual screenshots. Like I said, they look very hand-drawn. Still, just wait until you see it move.
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SWillie! wrote:Anyways, yes - these are indeed actual screenshots. Like I said, they look very hand-drawn. Still, just wait until you see it move.
I'm trying to imagine what it will look like in the end and I'm starting to realise what people mean when they describe it as hand-drawn over CG. I'm waaay more excited for this than Wreck-It Ralph
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:o I think it looks great. This style has exceeded any ideas I had of what to expect from this new medium and I'm very happy with the hand-drawn look that they've been able to achieve.
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Wow, those stills are gorgeous. I didn't fully know what Paperman was going to look like, but if this is the final product I'm now super excited to see this short. Hopefully we'll see this 2D/3D hybrid in a feature film :D
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Shame they don't try this technique on Snowqueen aka Frozen
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Toky wrote:Shame they don't try this technique on Snow Queen aka Frozen
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If they use this technique on at least one feature film I'll die happy.

Ron 'n John hurry up with your film!! Seems like it will be made beyond 2015.

Hope Paperman will be included on the Wreck-It Ralph Blu-ray. If Disney get really evil they will stomp it into obscurity like they did with Lorenzo and Glago's Guest.
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OMG! Those LOOK hand-drawn! That is so cool and I look forward to this even more!! :)
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Wow! Those look amazing!
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The first two pictures, especially the second one with her standing alone, looks like they are drawn by hand, but the third one (with the guy sitting in the office) give me a feeling about cel shading.
But as it has been said, it is a new technique that has been tested for the first time. We will probably see further sophistication in the future. I'm looking forward to see what the Musker and Clements movie is gonna look like. But first I will (hopefully) see thos one.

Also, the article mentioned says;

"The Meander program, created by Disney software engineer Brian Whited, allows the 2-D hand-drawn artwork to “stick” to the dimensional CG layer underneath. “A cynic would say it’s high-tech rotoscoping,” Kahrs says, referring to an old animation technique of tracing over live-action film stills. “Really it’s more than that. It’s meant to celebrate the line, and bring it back up to the front of the image again.”

The footage in Paperman was then passed back and forth between the 2-D and CG animation teams as they fine-tuned the look of the film — often to ensure it never looked too fine-tuned. “When the line artists would find a more pleasing silhouette, or a better method of expression, we would go back and push the CG into that shape,” says producer Kristina Reed (a former DreamWorks Animation production executive on such films as Madagascar and Over the Hedge.) Other times, she adds, Kahrs would say, “‘It looks too CG right now,’ and want to knock it back.”

As probably mentioned already; since the computer is able to seperate the hand-drawn work from the CGI, it could be interesting to see what happened if the CGI was made invincible in a test run when the short was getting near its completion, leaving only the drawn lines behind (which could then be colored the way hand-drawn movies are colored these days).
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Gorgeous.

If I had a big house with a huge living room I´d frame most of the images and place them all around.
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That looks incredible! Much more charming than "traditional" CGI, very much like traditional hand drawn animation.

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OMG!!! THIS IS SO FREAKIN' COOL!

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If this is the new look for animation, then I'm totally in!
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YAY! They have never give up 2D animation after all! WHEE! :party: :party: :party: :party: :party: :party: :party: :party: :party:

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So, it was brought to my attention that Paperman is a copy of this short.

Tell me what do you think:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uy0HNWto0UY
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DC Fan wrote:So, it was brought to my attention that Paperman is a copy of this short.

Tell me what do you think:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uy0HNWto0UY
Nobody said it was an original idea. ;) The same thing has been done over a million times
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