Hairspray (2007)

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SpringHeelJack wrote:I should think a holiday season release...I think Marc Shaiman said something about them prepping a two-disc version that would include Tracy's deleted song "I Can Wait".

I really hope they filmed Tracy's reprise of Good Morning Balitmore!!


I know it was sung when she went to jail,
But its such a sweet lil reprise !


& if they changed some of the lyrics they could've had her sing when she was locked in the basement of the Pingleton house :)




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skyler888 wrote:I really hope they filmed Tracy's reprise of Good Morning Balitmore!!
They didn't. It was completely axed from the script by the time they got close to filming. The only song filmed and cut fully was "I Can Wait".
skyler888 wrote:It didnt take a long enough time to establish the characters, and you dont end up feeling for tracy at all! Also Divine is a much worse actress then i thought she would be
In all fairness, it's John Waters. You're not really supposed to have much in the way of character establishment, you just know who you are supposed to support and who you ought not. It's just goofy fun, albiet with more of an obvious message than some of his other films. Plus, Divine was incredible, IMO. She played the character as it was written, and did it perfectly. Obviously, they make lots of changes when it was staged, i.e. axing Amber's dad and combining three characters to make Velma, including changing much of Edna's character.
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With the reflexes of a dinosaur, I finally saw the movie this week. And, I'm sorry, but I'm going to grump about it. (And I could, if required grump for England on most things, so don't take these out of proportion).

For at least two years I've been listening to the Broadway soundtrack CD, and it's vastly better than the movie soundtrack (which I also bought this week). More annoyingly, I was totally bemused by some of the changes made for the movie to the narrative and (presumably - being as I've never actually seen the stageplay) staging.

First is the "Miss Baltimore Crabs" song, which totally lost all of it's bombastic arrogance in the film. I just cannot work out why the song was rewitten and stages alongside a rhumba type dance which distracted both the singer and the audience by splitting the focus of the piece.

But the biggest mistake was the "Without Love" staging. I mean, what the heck was going on there? You have a series of two powerful duets - the key being Tracy and Link, and in the film they effectively split the most important couple up for the duration of the song? And somehow, having Link singing to an animated picture is supposed to indicate the passion of the song? Rubbish. Total rubbish. And being as the prison sequence was removed (as well as one of my favourite songs "The Big Doll House") the actual words of the song had no meaning what-so-ever for Tracy and Link. :headshake:

Also we missed out "Cooties" another song with tremendously witty lyrics (up there with "You're Timeless to Me") but a perfect example of Amber's cruelness. I won't even begin to mention the monstrosity that pretends to be "Cooties" on the film soundtrack.

I was also a bit disappointed with the stanging of some numbers. There seemed to be an urge to showcase as many locations as possible in each musical number. Most other film musicals seem to manage with only 1 or 2 per sequence, including HSM. I don't think the rapid scene changes on "Run and Tell That" or "I Can Hear the Bells" helped the film at all in any shape or form (likewise the splitting of "You Can't Stop the Beat").

As for the new songs, they were OK, "Ladies' Choice" is rapidly growing on me. But I'd rather have the missing songs and plot reinstated. I'm under no illusion why they add new songs to motion picture musicals - it's so they can submit them for the "best original song" Oscar® rather than actually improving the original stage experience (in most cases).

That said, I don't want people to think this means I thought the film was a disaster. I was still incredibly moved by the film, still found it one of the most life-affirming movies I've seen for a long, long time and still (despite my critisisms) enjoyed it enormously. Sadly, although I have said many times before seeing it I expected it to be the film of 2007, it clearly wasn't.

If anyone thinks my complaints are wrong or over the top, I urge them all to try and get hold of the Original Broadway Cast soundtrack album and give it a couple of quick listens. It's far superior to the motion picture's.

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Netty, I do agree with you that the Broadway Soundtrack is better, it has IMHO a lot more energy and the singing is superior to the one in the movie.
Nevertheless, I enjoyed the movie very much and totally loved it, although I did miss the Big House scenes and "Big Doll House" in particular.

And definitely the worst song on the movie's soundtrack is the amazingly awful version of "Cooties", one of my favorite songs from the Broadway Soundtrack, that sadly didn't make it into the film.
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Well when it comes to Stage/Film crossovers, I have certainly found myself annoyed in the past when songs are chopped or rearranged.

But in the case of Hairspray, i have never seen or heard the original stage soundtrack, so going to see the film was my first immersion into the Hairspray world.

And I absolutely loved the film, probably my favourite of the year to date. Perhaps I would feel differently if I had heard the stage soundtrack, however having nothing to compare the film too the film does not sound like a watered down version of anything.

I actually quite liked the staging of the musical numbers, I found the 'show as much location as possible' angle good in fleshing out the world. AndI have to disagree and say i particularly liked the way 'I can Hear the Bells' was staged. To me the rapid changing enhanced the song, suggesting that no matter where she was or what she was doing there she was constantly thinking about Link and hearing 'the bells', just passing through the various scenes in a dream like state almost oblivious/ uncaring about the scenes going on around her.

I also like the way that during 'Run and Tell That', the scene cutting made it more like the white kids were being lead and taken on an adventure, out of the school and on the bus. It seemed to suggest an excitement conjoured up by being taken somewhere exciting.

To me it is definitely the film of 2007.

But let's face it Netty, your grump has nothing to do with the film, you're just bitter because you came home and spend 3 hours in front of the mirror trying to get Tracy hair and you failed.

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ichabod wrote:But let's face it Netty, your grump has nothing to do with the film, you're just bitter because you came home and spend 3 hours in front of the mirror trying to get Tracy hair and you failed.

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No, I was trying to turn my head upside down and get my beard to look like Tracy's hair. And failed.
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I've been listening the OBCR since it came out in 2002, and the only real thing I miss is Harvey. I liked John Travolta better than I thought I would, but I love me some Harvey. Simply because of his voice he make any line funny, which I love. So anyhow, I have listened to the OBCR many a time, seen the show, etc., and while I enjoyed the stage show more, mostly becuase of the very witty book, I did enjoy the movie.

"Run and Tell That" has always been a song transitioning from one place to the next. The movie was just able to do the whole journey instead of schoolBAMMotormouth Maybelle.

Personally, I never cared for "The Big Dollhouse" or "Cooties", so I can't say I missed them. I love "Mama I'm a Big Girl Now", but I can see why they cut it.

IMO, the reason why "Miss Blatimore Crabs" lost much of its punch is because Michelle Pfeiffer is not a singer. The first time I was listening to the song I had no clue what the heck she was saying in the line "You can laugh but life's a test". I though she was saying "lie" for the longest time. Though I do agree the new lyrics make the number less focused. It's more like "Do what I say kids-LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT MY CHILDHOOD- and dance whiter!" now.

Um, also the "Cooties" on the soundtrack is pretty much entirely tongue-in-cheek...I thought that was obvious. It's a total end credits-esque pop reconfiguration of a showtune. I think everyone's taking it much more seriously than the creators did.
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Hairspray(2007) is now my favorite movie ever!!!!

I don't care if you guys think I'm weird for this,but it rocks!!!!!!

I memorized ALL the songs from the OBC and Soundtrack CDs...I love it! And I can't get enough of it! xD
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I saw the Broadway show in NYC 3 weeks ago and saw the movie 2 weeks ago. I loved them both, but I think I like the Tracy in the Broadway show better. On Broadway she was very headstrong and confident for the cause she was fighting for. The Tracy on Broadway didn't run from the cops. I was actually really upset when Tracy ran from the cops in the movie because it didn't make any sence at all for her character. Not to mention that it did make "Without Love" kinda weird in the film.

Another thing I didn't like about the film was the sequence for "I Know Where I've Been". I feel like they could've done a lot more to make it more visually appealing. On Broadway this song was very powerful, and was one of my favorite songs in the play. While i was watching the movie i literally said out loud "was that it?" at the end of the song.

Lastly I can't decide if I liked Ashley Parker Angel or Zac Efron as Link better. Ashley was playing Link on Broadway.

I consider both as different things, and I like them both overall. I'm left in the same spot as I am with Rent, which I also saw on Broadway with Adam Pascal, Anthony Rapp, and Tamyra Gray as Mimi.
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See, I actually like using "I Know Where I've Been" in the protest march, because in the stage show it's a very static and "time for the 11 o'clock number" moment. It works...okay in the stage show, but I like the movie's take on that better.
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Just got back last night from a second viewing. This movie is addicting beyond belief. Everyone I went with had a blast and were singing along to some of the songs on the way back! :)
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An interesting article in the Fall Movie preview of EW states that, due to new Academy rules, Hairspray might have problems getting a Best Original Song nomination at the Oscars:

http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20052158,00.html

I hope this turns out not to be true. "Come So Far (Got So Far to Go)" is a great song and deserves a nomination.
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I saw the film in Friday and it was really good :D.
in the Musical Tracey goes to jail? :o.
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Yes. In the stage show, the protest segues right after "Big, Blonde and Beautiful" (a song that has more relevance in the stage show), and ends with all the female characters beings arrested. They all get out on Wilbur's bail / Velma's connections with the governer, except for Tracy, who is forced to remain in solitary confinement. Link sneaks in during "Without Love" and frees her with a makeshift blowtorch made from a lighter and a can of hairspray.
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SpringHeelJack wrote:Yes. In the stage show, the protest segues right after "Big, Blonde and Beautiful" (a song that has more relevance in the stage show), and ends with all the female characters beings arrested. They all get out on Wilbur's bail / Velma's connections with the governer, except for Tracy, who is forced to remain in solitary confinement. Link sneaks in during "Without Love" and frees her with a makeshift blowtorch made from a lighter and a can of hairspray.
Aw,good they cuted it :D.
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No they weakened it. The stage show version is obviously stronger. I have no idea why they changed it - it weakens on of the strongest songs, weaken's Tracy's character and even weakens Link.

I cannot see a single positive about the movie's version.
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Funny, because as someone who has nothing to compare it to, I thought it was the movie's strongest number!
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And as someone who has something to compare it to, I didn't mind it as much as everyone else did. It would have been nice to have had Tracy's verse back in the song, but what can you do.
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Hairspray is coming to DVD on November 20th!!! It will be available in a single disc edition, 2 disc Shake and Shimmy Special Edition and a Gift Set Edition, as well as on Blu-ray (the HD-DVD release is delayed until next year). No cover art yet.

This is great news!!! I'm getting the Shake and Shimmy 2-discer!!

http://www.thedigitalbits.com/#mytwocents

(LATE UPDATE - 9/11/07 - 5 PM PDT)

Here's a bit of a surprise... New Line has just announced their first high-definition title for release in November. It's Hairspray... coming on Blu-ray only on 11/20, day and date with the standard DVD. The HD-DVD version is being delayed until next year, because the format doesn't offer region coding and the studio needs to be sensitive to the release dates of "independent international distributors," according to New Line's EVP of marketing Matt Lasorsa. However, New Line's general policy moving forward will be format neutral, like Warner. Here's the relevant text from the Home Media Retailing piece:

Even after Hairspray, most New Line titles will be released the same day on both standard DVD and Blu-ray Disc, with a lag for the HD DVD version. “But for second-party acquisitions to which we don't have international rights,” Lasorsa said, “we will be day-and-date on all three formats."

The Hairspray DVD will be released in three versions - a single-disc edition (SRP $28.98), a widescreen 2-disc Shake and Shimmy special edition (SRP $34.99) and a gift set edition (SRP $59.76) that includes a metal school locker and a tote bag. The 2-disc version will include the You Can't Stop the Beat behind-the-scenes documentary, deleted scenes, multiple audio commentaries, the Hairspray Extensions featurette on the dance moves in the film, a dance tutorial and a new musical number (I Can't Wait). The Blu-ray will feature a Behind the Beat picture-in-picture option (we believe the first PiP on a Blu-ray title) in addition to the standard DVD extras. The eventual HD-DVD will also offer these extras, along with Internet features. You can read more here at Video Business as well.

Stay tuned...
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