Walt Disney Treasures Wave 5 DVDs Press Release

[Class316]

Sure, a little bit of info is useful. But first and foremost I still don't "know" the Swamp Fox, Elfego Baca and Spin & Marty in the sense that I "know and love" them - I've never seen them before and cannot say for sure if there's reason for me to really, really want them. But I'll still buy...

What I don't like about the Swamp Fox/Elfego Baca set is that it's not really complete in any way and just has selected episodes from each show. I know that they can't include the all eps of even just one in a 2 disc set, but the fact that it's a "best of" of sorts and not a "complete" in any form is kinda a let down for the treasures.

[Lars Vermundsberget]

What I don't like about the Swamp Fox/Elfego Baca set is that it's not really complete in any way and just has selected episodes from each show. I know that they can't include the all eps of even just one in a 2 disc set, but the fact that it's a "best of" of sorts and not a "complete" in any form is kinda a let down for the treasures.

I guess I'll have to agree with you there. The Mickey Mouse Club set included the complete first week of the show and that seemed somewhat in keeping with the Treasures line. As long as the SF and EB selections are episodes that stand alone I guess it won't be too bad, though. I don't expect this set to be among the greatest and most essential ones, but it could still be worthwhile. Those responsible probably figured that this was no Davy Crockett, so just a few "samples" would be all right - maybe a reasonable decision. Admittedly, I'll buy these just because they're "Treasures".

[Owlzindabarn]

Quite right--it's a big shame that all of Elfego Baca is not included; surely we're not being led to believe that there will be a second tin of him? I reallllly doubt it. Most people don't even remember him.

They really should do a "Wonderful World of Color" tin series, which includes the best of Walt's made-for-tv movies. I know a lot of them have already made it to dvd, but there's this 40 year library of other gems to see. I guess they'd only put about 2 movies in such a tin, making it sort of unworthy, but where does it say that the Treasures can only be 2 disk sets? Why not 3 or more? I notice a banner ad for "Desperate Housewives" at the top of this page today. I paid about $30 for my DH set and it had SIX disks. I usually pay about $30 for a new tin set, so they can surely put more disks into a special set, maybe charge a little more for it if they wanted.

Ah, well, this is probably the most unexciting wave of the 5, (to me, anyway). I want Donald, surely, but'cha know, half of the stuff in the "Rareties" tin has already been released, one way or another. Spin & Marty were cool, but I don't want them. Elfego & Swamp Fox are also cool, but no way am I gonna touch that tin, since we know it to be incomplete.

[ichabod]

Fellow UDers, I bring you news from sir Leonard of Maltin.

A few weeks ago I emailed him and asked him 3 questions.

1. Was the omission of "Susie the Little Blue Coupe" and "Casey Bats Again" a typo in the press release as was the situation with Donald V2.

2. Would the remaining episodes of "The Swamp Fox" or "Elfego Baca" see the light of day of further episodes.

and 3. Will the True Life Adventures rear their ugly heads any time soon.

I had completely forgotten all about this as it was some weeks ago, so to get a response was out of the blue, and this is what he said.

Hi...

CASEY BATS AGAIN and SUSIE THE LITTLE BLUE COUPE are being saved for inclusion on another disc down the road.

And yes, we all felt it would be better to pair two of the Disney "heroes" series together rather than putting all our eggs in one basket, so to speak. If these do well, we will be able to release more; if they don't, that may be the end of the line for those series.

The latest word I have is that they're now planning to release the True-Life Adventures as a separate series and not as part of the Treasures.

I hope this clears a few things up for you. We do have a commitment for another four DVDs next year, so there are more goodies to come.

cheers,

Leonard Maltin

So we know that 2006 will give us another 4 treasures at least, also there is a chance the other episodes not included on the Heroes tin could possibly see the light of day. Quite sad that the True Life Adventures won't be a Treasure however, at least he suggests that Disney are at least contemplating a release, and if they do get their own series that would be even better.

[Billy Moon]

CASEY BATS AGAIN and SUSIE THE LITTLE BLUE COUPE are being saved for inclusion on another disc down the road.

I wonder what that one could be. Aren't those the only "special" cartoons not included on the Rarities set? Any Ideas?

[Mouseketodd]

...CASEY BATS AGAIN and SUSIE THE LITTLE BLUE COUPE are being saved for inclusion on another disc down the road....

Notice Leonard said those two would be on "another disc." He didn't identify the disc as being part of the Treasures line -- maybe they will be part of the "Classic Cartoon Favorites" collection.

[Lars Vermundsberget]

...CASEY BATS AGAIN and SUSIE THE LITTLE BLUE COUPE are being saved for inclusion on another disc down the road....

Notice Leonard said those two would be on "another disc." He didn't identify the disc as being part of the Treasures line -- maybe they will be part of the "Classic Cartoon Favorites" collection.

Well, who knows, but I wouldn't really think so. Including them in the CCF is no reason not to include them in the Treasures.

[Lars Vermundsberget]

CASEY BATS AGAIN and SUSIE THE LITTLE BLUE COUPE are being saved for inclusion on another disc down the road.

I wonder what that one could be. Aren't those the only "special" cartoons not included on the Rarities set? Any Ideas?

I must say I'm a bit puzzled... But I guess a second Rarities set could include, together with Casey and Susie, another handful of "Alice Comedies" and the Figaro and Chip and Dale shorts. Then there are the various shorts from the 70s and after. Maybe that would do it. I haven't checked thoroughly whether there would be any bits and pieces left from the late 50s and 60s, but some of you might have mentioned already that there aren't...?

[ichabod]

Notice Leonard said those two would be on "another disc." He didn't identify the disc as being part of the Treasures line -- maybe they will be part of the "Classic Cartoon Favorites" collection.

But Leonard is only involved in the Treasures, and I think he does imply it will be a Treasures Set. I doubt very highly that Leonard would know anything about the CCFs and their contents.

[Class316]

I'm kinda glad True Life Adventures won't be part of the treasures. That would have been the final straw that gets me off from getting "all" treasures.

[Mr. Toad]

Lars - this is what is left and all of the Alice's dont exist

1926 Alice's Three Bad Eggs Alice in Cartoonland
1924 Alice and the Toreador Alice in Cartoonland
1925 Alice Rattled by Rats Alice in Cartoonland
1925 Alice's Ornery Orphan Alice in Cartoonland
1925 Alice on the Farm Alice in Cartoonland
1925 Alice Chops the Suey Alice in Cartoonland
1925 Alice Solves the Puzzle Alice in Cartoonland
1924 Alice and the Dog Catcher Alice in Cartoonland
1924 Alice and the Three Bears Alice in Cartoonland
1924 Alice Cans the Cannibals Alice in Cartoonland
1924 Alice Hunting in Africa Alice in Cartoonland
1924 Alice Plays the Pipers Alice in Cartoonland
1924 Alice the Peacemaker Alice in Cartoonland
1924 Alice's Day at Sea Alice in Cartoonland
1924 Alice's Fishy Story Alice in Cartoonland
1924 Alice's Spooky Adventure Alice in Cartoonland
1925 Alice Gets Stung Alice in Cartoonland
1925 Alice is Stage Struck Alice in Cartoonland
1925 Alice Picks the Champ Alice in Cartoonland
1925 Alice Plays Cupid Alice in Cartoonland
1925 Alice the Jail Bird Alice in Cartoonland
1925 Alice Wins the Derby Alice in Cartoonland
1925 Alice's Balloon Race Alice in Cartoonland
1925 Alice's Little Parade Alice in Cartoonland
1925 Alice's Tin Pony Alice in Cartoonland
1925 Alice Loses Out Alice in Cartoonland
1926 Alice at the Carnival Alice in Cartoonland
1926 Alice at the Rodeo Alice in Cartoonland
1926 Alice Charmes the Fish Alice in Cartoonland
1926 Alice Cuts the Ice Alice in Cartoonland
1926 Alice Foils the Pirates Alice in Cartoonland
1926 Alice Helps the Romance Alice in Cartoonland
1926 Alice in the Alps Alice in Cartoonland
1926 Alice in the Big League Alice in Cartoonland
1926 Alice in the Klondike Alice in Cartoonland
1926 Alice in the Wooly West Alice in Cartoonland
1926 Alice the Beach Nut Alice in Cartoonland
1926 Alice the Collegiate Alice in Cartoonland
1926 Alice the Fire Fighter Alice in Cartoonland
1926 Alice the Golf Bug Alice in Cartoonland
1926 Alice the Lumber Jack Alice in Cartoonland
1926 Alice's Auto Race Alice in Cartoonland
1926 Alice's Brown Derby Alice in Cartoonland
1926 Alice's Channel Swim Alice in Cartoonland
1926 Alice's Circus Daze Alice in Cartoonland
1926 Alice's Knaughty Knight Alice in Cartoonland
1926 Alice's Medicine Show Alice in Cartoonland
1926 Alice's Monkey Business Alice in Cartoonland
1926 Alice's Picnic Alice in Cartoonland
1926 Alice's Spanish Guitar Alice in Cartoonland
1992 Petal to the Medal Bonkers
1951 Chicken in the Rough Chip 'n' Dale
1952 Two Chips and a Miss Chip 'n' Dale
1954 The Lone Chipmunks Chip 'n' Dale
1978 The Small One Featurette
1981 Winnie the Pooh Discovers the Seasons Featurette
1997 Redux Riding Hood Featurette
1999 Three Little Pigs Featurette
1997 Jack and the Beanstalk Featurette-Unreleased
1943 Figaro Cleo Figaro
1946 Bath Day Figaro
1947 Figaro and Frankie Figaro
1989 Tummy Trouble Roger Rabbit
1990 Roller Coaster Rabbit Roger Rabbit
1993 Trail Mix-Up Roger Rabbit
1952 Suzie, the Little Blue Coupe Special
1993 Recycle Rex Special
2000 John Henry Special
1954 Casey Bats Again Special
1974 Man, Monsters and Mysteries Special
1982 Vincent Special
1926 Clara Cleans Her Teeth Special
1934 The Hot Choc-Late Soldiers Special
1934 Servants Entrance Special
1949 Bubble Bee Special
1961 The Coyote's Lament Special
1965 Freewayphobia Special
1965 Freewayphobia #2 Special
1965 Donald's Fire Survival Plan Special
1969 It's Tough to be A Bug Special
1970 Dad, Can I Borrow the Car? Special
1979 Footloose Fox Special
1982 Fun with Mr. Future Special
1987 Sport Goofy in Soccermania Special
1987 Oil Spot and Lipstick Special
1992 Off His Rockers Special
1995 Stand By Me Special
2003 Destino Special
2004 Lorenzo Special
2004 One by One Special
2004 The Cat That Looked at A King Special
2004 A Dairy Tale: Three Little Pigs Special

[Lars Vermundsberget]

Mr . Toad -

A few of these titles might seem slightly "questionable" - IMO not very likely to be included in a "Disney" set, such as "Vincent" and the Roger Rabbit shorts. At least I don't think they quite belong there.

Isn't "Bubble Bee" a Pluto title?

And why not include the one DD piece on your list in the final DD set?

And as you said, a lot of the Alice films no longer exist.

Bottom line, though: There IS easily enough material for another "Rarities" set.

I guess we can trust our friend Leonard to do the right thing and make a wise selection.

[Mr. Toad]

Lars - just cut and paste from an excel file and some do not belong.

Bubble Bee is not on the list because my list is just by title card. Following Treasure logic, Title Cards do not matter as much as content so yes a couple will be included on other sets. However, you never know as the three Goofy cartoons without Goofy title cards were not included on his set. There are others like A Dairy Tale that obviously do not need remastering and Treasures issuance.

So unless you combined the lest overs with maybe some live action shorts or Peoples and Places there probably is not enough left to support an individual treasure.

[Lars Vermundsberget]

The Complete Goofy was probably so packed that more or less peripheral material was avoided.

So unless you combined the lest overs with maybe some live action shorts or Peoples and Places there probably is not enough left to support an individual treasure.

Not sure I follow... Your list seems to suggest that there is enough.

[pppapazo]

Not sure I follow... Your list seems to suggest that there is enough.

Yeah, but if I'm not mistaken, there hasn't been a Treasure yet to feature material created after Walt died.

[Mr. Toad]

Lars - I was not suggesting that every cartoon there belonged on a Treasure. That was just my list of shorts that do not have a title card where they would go on another set and which have not already been issued. So that is the possible material to draw from. You had asked if there was anything else that we had not mentioned.

[Wonderlicious]

Yeah, but if I'm not mistaken, there hasn't been a Treasure yet to feature material created after Walt died.

You're mistaken; Mickey Mouse in Living Colour Vol 2 had some of the 80s and 90s featurettes on, a good 20-30 years after Walt died.

[pppapazo]

Yeah, but if I'm not mistaken, there hasn't been a Treasure yet to feature material created after Walt died.

You're mistaken; Mickey Mouse in Living Colour Vol 2 had some of the 80s and 90s featurettes on, a good 20-30 years after Walt died.

I am indeed mistaken.

[Mr. Toad]

Missed - Ichabod's initial conversation with Leonard.

I too am a little upset that the TLA will not be on Treasures. Would be nice if they did all the shorts that way. However, as long as they do a nice remastering job that is all that really matters.

[humphreybear]

In addition to the figarao and chip and dale shorts, and the roger rabbit shorts, and casey bats again and suzie little blue copu more recent "rarities" might include stuff like john henry, destino, lorenzo, redux riding hood, I'm sure there are a few more.